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[edit] BLP

To the anon, please don't restore the previous lead. The article has to conform to our policy on biographies of living persons, and this lead arguably doesn't. I'd like to ask some other editors who specialize in BLP issues to look at it over the next few days, so please leave the current version in place until I get a chance to do that. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 05:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

I've added some criticism to the lead. At some point, we should add a careful section on some of the issues; Oklahoma, for example. But it needs to be carefully written and very carefully sourced to good, mainstream sources. SlimVirgin (talk) 06:07, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sections

It strikes me that having one line in the 'education section' is a little spare. I suggest we rename the section 'education and early career' and move the early part of his career into it. (I'll also dig around to see what else can be added.) I'm not sure where the dividing line should be--any suggestions? Bucketsofg 20:10, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Your edits look good to me. SlimVirgin (talk) 03:00, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] US New & World Report position?

Does anyone have a source for "national security correspondent" at the US New & World Report? The NY Times review of his 1988 book "Secret Warriors" refers to him as "a senior editor of U.S. News & World Report". Bucketsofg 20:42, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

I've changed it to "senior editor specializing in national security issues," which is what the back flap of Secret Warriors says. SlimVirgin (talk) 02:58, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Another detail, not sure whether its important, but in his 1991 interview with Larry King, King says Emerson was "a member of the Special Assignment unit here at CNN". Bucketsofg 04:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
And in a transcript of a CNN show he is called "CNN Special Assignment Correspondent" Bucketsofg 04:24, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Early life

It is important to mention that he is Jewish. That is something one should be proud of and is something that is important for everyone to know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.220.161.66 (talk) 11:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

Why is this imprtant? - 72.66.46.20 00:16, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Emerson is Jewish

Why is it so bad to put down the simple fact that he is a Jew. One's religion is included on almost every wikipedia page and I do not see any reason to make an exception here. People are interested in facts such as someone's religion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.203.27.215 (talk) 06:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC).

He could be Jewish without being religious. Do you have a source? SlimVirgin (talk) 06:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SlimVrigin is violating wikipedia rules by wantonly deleting information

I am truly sorry for the petty game of semantics that some want to play on wikipedia. He may not be religious, but he is a Jew. There is nothing wrong with either him being religious or not, but he is a Jew. Stop trying to hide a simple innocent fact. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.203.27.215 (talk) 04:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Slim is doing nothing wrong or against policy. Provide SOURCES for the material you want to add and then we can discuss the additions here. OK? --Tom 13:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I agree that stating Steve Emerson is a Jew is very helpful!

I agree with the person trying to place the fact that Steve Emerson is a Jew into the page. This is obviously something that should be on the page and the fact that someone would try to keep it off is very suspect. Why keep off a simple fact that is harmless unless someone doesn't want the public to know that he is a Jew. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.96.253 (talkcontribs)

Anon, you are sounding ridiculous. If you want to do something to balance this article, you have to find an acceptable source, such as a serious news agency, that published something that provides balance. Stop harping on whether he is Jewish or not. Nobody cares. --Zerotalk 13:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

And I can't resist adding, to nobody in particular, that this article is so adulatory that it might as well as have been written by Emerson's mother. --Zerotalk 13:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Religion

People do care what important people's backgrounds are, don't try to use that one on us Zero!!! I agree and I understand the need for a source. I will attempt to find a source that is online and will post Mr. Emerson's religious background accordingly. I am trying to show not only those of Jewish descent on Wikipedia, but also those of Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist etc.. It's highly offensive to me to get these personal messages elsewhere accusing me of "yellow-tagging" or being anti-Semitic. This is a scare tactic in my book and I will not stand for it. One cannot be scared to post something that is in no way offensive if it is a fact. I will find a source and post it then. I have in now way called anyone anything that is slanderous or anti anything ever here on Wikipedia or elsewhere. There is nothing wrong with showing someone's background, whether one is a Jew or any other religious background. Please press those that would accuse wantonly not to do so without even an inkling of evidence.

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:AmericanJihad.jpg

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[edit] CAIR

John, please stop adding the description of CAIR that attempts to discredit them. First, this page isn't about CAIR; people can look them up if they want to. Secondly, you're picking and choosing what ought to be highlighted about them, whereas other people might want to add that they're a wonderful organization. That's why we simply refer people to the CAIR article, where all the nuances can be shown in full. SlimVirgin (talk)(contribs) 20:14, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Articles removed

I removed the long list of articles from the page. Here they are, in case anyone wants to use them as references:--Gloriamarie 21:38, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:AmericanJihad.jpg

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