Talk:Squash (plant)

The result of the discussion was Do not move. I am closing this so that no one else is fooled like I was into thinking this was a current debate.

[edit] Squash (fruit) → Squash

Squash is primarily used for the vegetable/fruit. While there are other uses of the term (for Squash (sport) and Squash (drink)) these are very much lesser uses and are referred to on Squash (disambiguation). I cannot make the move myself because Squash (disambiguation) was at Squash before I moved it. -- WormRunner | Talk 00:19, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

• Support WormRunner's reasoning is simply good sense. Furthermore, the name is confusing. Botanically it is, or course, a fruit, but most people think of it in terms of vegetable. Pollinator 03:23, Jan 13, 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose. Squash (drink) is British I think; but Squash (sport) seems to me at least as prominent a usage as the fruit. (Though I may be biased; I've played squash once, but never eaten it. ;) Rd232 00:27, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Squash (sport) is barely known outside the Commonwealth; suggest primary-topic disambiguation at User:Squash. (Only kidding. I must nonetheless oppose.) ADH (t&m) 00:33, Jan 13, 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose. Squash (sport) is probably better known than Squash (fruit) -- Curps 01:04, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • In fairness, this is probably a Pondian thing. We eat plenty of squash (pumpkin and such), but never play the game. The reverse is probably true in the U.K. ADH (t&m) 01:07, Jan 13, 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose - none of the options is overly dominant enough to deserve the primary name. -- Netoholic @ 03:23, 2005 Jan 13 (UTC)
  • Oppose: Agree. Cburnett 04:07, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose with Squash (vegetable) redirecting to Squash (fruit) to sate those that find it confusing (it already exists). The fruit is only the third thing I think of in relation to the word. violet/riga (t) 09:54, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose - Solipsist 11:09, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose - Philip Baird Shearer 19:24, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose, because a sport is more likely to get a bigger article than the fruit SECProto 15:20, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)
• Support Not everything is about size. Squash is eaten by many more people than play it. —Michael Z. 16:38, 2005 Jan 14 (UTC)
• Strongly Oppose. Sorry but the fruit/veg thing is very far down the list of things I might be thinking about when I hear the word squash. In any case I would have called it a vegetable rather then a fruit if anybody had cared to ask me what kind of thing it was. But now I know better. Jooler 17:20, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose'. It is a pondian thing, true (one only has to look at the distinctly unsportsmanlike purpose to which the Stagg Field squash court at the University of Chicago was put) but using Google I found it very, very hard to avoid getting deluged by Squash the sport. Other Google hits seem to be comparatively rare. I think this is a good case for Primary Topic disambiguation. But the primary topic is not fruit. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 23:34, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The preponderance of squash racket sports mentioned on the net is due to the high marketability and profit margins of equipment incorporating space-age materials ("Visa or Mastercard?"). I assure you there are many more people eating curried squash the world than there are fitness club members. —Michael Z. 23:53, 2005 Jan 15 (UTC)

Not to mention the sports pages, and simply that the game is a far more interesting discussion topic than zucchini. The Google test isn't a good metric, in this case, and I would oppose a push for primary-topic disambiguation under any of the various meanings. ADH (t&m) 00:06, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)

I agree that I may well have eaten what you call 'curried squash'. But one thing I can be sure of is that I do not call it 'curried squash'. That use of the word squash is almost unknown in my country. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 14:16, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Oppose. Squash the fruit is almost unheard of on the Eastern side of the Atlantic. DJ Clayworth 03:17, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

• Oppose reluctantly, I am infinitely more familiar with the vegetable/fruit than the game and had never heard of the drink, though in my ideolect its is also a common verb (a synonym for "crush"). However, the discussion here shows that this is a regional variation that should not be legislated by Wikipedia. Eluchil404 13:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Should we move the article, or could we make two articles, one devoted to Squash(Plant), and one devoted to Squash(Fruit)? The Fruit article could discuss the culinary aspects, and different varieties/species in cultivation, while the Plant article can discuss the botany concerning squashes (habits, pollinators, etc).--Mr Fink 16:14, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strongly Oppose The sport of squash is extremely important as well, (even if it may not seem that way to you folk locked up in the U.S.of A.) Also in many countries in the world (thats right, outside of the U.S.of A.) virtually all types of (what you people from the U.S.of A.) call squash are called pumpkins, where as the term squash refers to small yellow or green flying saucer looking things. (which taste disgusting mind you) These are also called button squash, so possibly they could get a reference in this article (or alternatively in a new one). And further more the drink is also very popular (you guessed it, outside of the U.S. of A. in Australia) its pretty much what people call (what you folk from the U. S. of A.) lemonade, although I've never referred to it as the "squash" it talks about in that main secion. --Shaizakopf 18:19 21 January 2007