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Contents 1 An article which you started, Aušra, was selected for DYK! 2 Black Scrolls Magazine deletion 3 Cite web 4 Lithuanian Bounty 5 Quaker State 6 Image copyright problem with Image:Somaliland_COA.gif 7 Baltic tribes map 8 Aspazija 9 Happy New Year! 10 Treaty of Dovydiškės 11 Labai dėkui 12 Vaisvilkas 13 Lithuanian airfields 14 Questions 15 LT history 16 Thanks. 17 Grammar 18 Informal mediation 19 Questions 20 Birthplaces of Lithuanian sportsmen 21 Re:Your comment at WP:RFI on Durova's page 22 Sveika 23 Map of Duchy of Courland 24 Encyclopedia 25 Polish minority 26 DYK! 27 Cleanup 28 Some help 29 Person of the Year 30 Miscellaneous, 1/30/2007 31 Lithuanian given names 32 Notice board 33 An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Bartians, was selected for DYK! 34 Yet another FA 35 Sock puppetry 36 NewArtBot for WP:LITH 37 Re: Thanks 38 Deletion review 39 Council of Lithuania Vilnius Conference 40 CP of Lithuania 41 Adygea 42 List of Dad's Army episodes 43 user:68.78.54.227 44 Žirmūnai to FA 45 DYK 46 List of XYZZY Awards by category 47 National Recording Registry Recordings FLC vote 48 Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Dad's Army episodes 49 Flag 50 UCINET deletion 51 Robin Raven deletion 52 Lithuanian Nationality Law 53 DYK 54 Philosophiae, Philosophae 55 Reconsideration 56 DYK 57 Zverynas 58 FAC2 - List of recordings preserved in the United States National Recording Registry 59 Galleries of Fair Use images 60 Another copyright question 61 Adygea 62 Just wondering about FU images 63 ? 64 thanks for the review of Taiwanese aborigines 65 Area element 66 Please restore Milkwall, Gloucestershire 67 House of Mindaugas on hold 68 Mykolas Kęsgaila 69 Article deletion 70 Secret Pants 70.1 Rebuttal 70.1.1 Fine... 71 [edit] Copyright problems with Image:Metro Athens extensions en.jpg 72 Following up on your message 73 Konkani Dictionary, deletion of article.

[edit] An article which you started, Aušra, was selected for DYK!

On December 30, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Aušra, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 17:05, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Black Scrolls Magazine deletion

Hi I would like to state the case for the Black Scrolls Magazine, which you deleted. Your reason - non-notable due to erratic releases. It is true it has erratic releases, but it is an extremely popular release with thousands of fans. It is still in production so it is an on-going concern. The wiki page is in development, so it will eventually become detailed and an excellent resource of facts on the magazine, not the 500 words you read. There are other Dr Who fanzines, prozines and magazines on wikipedia, so it should most certainly have a place. Please reconsider - and post your reply. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.31.1.102 (talk • contribs)

Please read Wikipedia:Notability. There were no and still are no indications of notability. To the contrary, there are indications of non-notability (like 8 issues in 12 years or "it is still in production"). Merely the fact "it does exist!" is not sufficient for something to have an entry in Wikipedia. Renata 12:50, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cite web

Hi, Renata! With all the traffic to your talk page, I am not sure whether you got to see my comments before you archived the thread. I apologize if you did and just decided to reply after the holidays (which is perfectly fine). Happy New Year!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 02:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again, Renata! Here are my counter-comments:

1. Lead. I don't really think that history would belong in the lead (especially considering that the whole History section is rather spotty), but adding basic information about the republic might be a good idea. I'll try it that way first.
2. Ref tags. OK.
3. Links in headings. I am not against duplication myself. What bothers me is complete duplication, which is what is going to happen, because the articles on districts contain little more than that same basic information you want to see in the section leads and in subsequent composition tables. Anyway, I though of different ways of dealing with section leads, and thought that information on when each particular district was established would have been perfect for that role. The unfortunate fact is that I am unable to find that information (no surprise, really). I even know the names of the printed sources, but unfortunately the only places I could possible get to them are the libraries of Adygea and Krasnodar Krai. As for you proposed layout, I am sorry, but I simply do not like it. In my view, it puts too much emphasis on name information without improving much. I'll definitely be on a lookout for more ideas for section leads, and you can have my word that I'll remove links in headings as soon as I have something. If that's not good enough for you, well, I guess I'll have to accept the fact that you (and probably some others) will oppose the nomination. I still welcome any input you might have, though :)
4. Administrative structure.
5. Cite web. What I meant by I am also unable to use the parameter from inside cite web is that currently the OKATOReference template uses a parameter to refer readers to the proper section of the document (code number, {{{1}}}). If I re-format the template using cite web, I am no longer able to use this parameter and have to either include the section number manually or not include it at all.
6. Map. I'll check if the map author agrees to re-do the map with a larger font. If not, we can just center the full-size map somewhere, as it is done, for example, in federal subjects of Russia.
7. ...and I hope you had wonderful New Year celebrations and had good time!

—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:10, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Renata, I don't know if you are going to be around much, but I thought I'd let you know that I nominated administrative divisions of Adygea for FL (here). Thank you so much for you valuable feedback, and hope to see you back sooner rather than later!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:52, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lithuanian Bounty

It has been done. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 02:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quaker State

Hello, many of us noticed you deleted the article on Quaker State. ...uhhh, any idea why? It is indeed notable, it sponsors NASCAR. Regards, Tuxide 07:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Not only NASCAR, but various teams in NHRA, IndyCar, FIA GT Championship, American Le Mans Series, and others. It is also a popular brand of motor oil. The359 07:05, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Somaliland_COA.gif

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[edit] Baltic tribes map

Renata, I would love to work on a Baltic tribes map. I enjoyed making the Livonian Confederation map and this Baltic Tribes map looks interesting as well, with exotic peoples (exotic to me, at least) set in a distant time. Give me a week or so, and I should have a first try. MapMaster 18:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Here at long last is your requested map: Image:Baltic Tribes c 1200.svg. I'll write more about why I did what I did, but I wanted to get it posted tonight. Mistakes? Improvements?? All for now, more later. MapMaster 06:26, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

If you think that parts of the map are wrong or misleading, let me know. I have added to the references on the Image's page so can you look thru them.

I will add the Sudovian name to the map. There is both a Wikipedia article on the Yotvingians and another on the Sudovians but everything that I've seen says that these are two names for the same tribues. I'm tempted to merge them, but thought I should (at least) check with you first. Let me know, MapMaster 03:23, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey, me again. I looked thru your concerns, replied to each of them, and made some changes to the map, though nothing striking. Rather than discuss this on my Talk page, I moved it to the map's talk page commons:Image talk:Baltic Tribes c 1200.svg.

Also, I have my first cut at translating the map: the PNG version is here. I need a name for the map (your choice) as well as the Lithuanian for kilometers and miles, and need you to check my spelling. Yr obedient servant, MapMaster 01:47, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

The Lithuanian version of this map is available here. If there are any further changes, let me know. Also, if you could add a Lithuanian language description to the map's page (along with the present English & Latvian), I would be appreciative. I am hoping that you will place it in the appropriate Lithuanian language articles. Later! MapMaster 14:32, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

You certainly never bother me. I have fixed the Dnieper/Berezina matter on the English map. Your message on my talk page was a bit confusing, however ("could you move Aukstaitians label a bit to the west. Now it's way too far to the east."). So, I moved the Aukstaitians a bit to the west, but I was wondering whether you meant "east". In any case, could you review?? Thanks, MapMaster 00:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aspazija

Hi, Renata, thank you for translating that article. I apoligise for asking after so long time has passed, but why were you questioning its accuracy ? In case if if you doubt refferences to Lithuania - she realy did live in Panevėžys shortly and wrote play set in medival Lithuania---- Xil/talk 23:46, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy New Year!

[edit] Treaty of Dovydiškės

[edit] Labai dėkui

... for the barnstar, which is entirely unexpected but extremely welcome. Happy New Year! HeartofaDog 11:48, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vaisvilkas

I am afraid there is a confusion here. According to a number of chronicles (I personally checked with Bychowiec Chronicle and Evreinov Chronicle (Yevreinov Chronicle, Евреиновская летопись)) the Lavrishev Monastery was founded by son of Treniota, Rimantas (or Rimundas,Римонт. Римунд), who was baptized under the name Lavr, Lavrysh, Лавр, Лаврыш and founded the monastery later named after his name: Lavrishev Monastery. Vaishvilkas was among his monks, but it is said he lived somewhere else, separately. Rimantas is known in Orthodox tradition under his monastic name Yelisey: Saint Yelisey Lavrishevsky Елисей Лавришевский.

However some doubt the historicity of Rimantas and assume that in fact Vaisvilkas (Войшелк) founded the monastery and Yelisey was yet another person as discussed, eg, here . It should be noted that tales about Vaisvilkas as recorded by Maciej Stryjkowski in Chronicle of Poland, Lithuania, Samogitia and all of Ruthenia and Kojałowicz in Historia Lithuaniae are also considered semi-mythological.

At the moment I have no idea whether a settlement of Lavrishevo Лавришево matches the place of the monastery. There is no traces monastery there now and some express doubt as to the location. There is a Church of Dormition (1768)

In some sources the village of Lavrushevo Лаврушево is mentioned in the same region (By Navahrudak) in context of the restoration of the monastery.

It is also claimed that the monastery was also mentioned in old documents as монастырь Лаврашев or Лаврашевский монастырь (Lavrashev Monastery)

I have no time to validate all this, but I hope it will give you some more clues. `'mikka 19:07, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lithuanian airfields

Happy New Year Renata3. I just saw your message posted on my talk page and I have a response there. In short, yes, please feel free to move any articles to the correct Lithuanian name, but please redirect using the old names since they are taken from authoritative (but possibly sloppy) American sources in aeronautical charts. -Timvasquez 05:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Questions

Thanks for the welcome message. I had a few questions. Someone just added some information to a page without citing sources, and there are some discrepancies in the wording this particular user used. Is there any way possible to contact this individual to find out where he found this information? How would I look up who it was? Thanks, Michaeldmccormick(login name).

[edit] LT history

Hi, did you receive the edit of LT history 1219-1295, and was it helpful? Sca 22:41, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Yup, I did. Thanks a lot! I am just away for the whole week so I have extremely limited Internet access and can only check my email and watchlist. When I will be back, I will make the changes. Gotta run. Renata 03:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks.

Hey Renata - Thanks for your support on the List of Formula One fatal accidents, much appreciated ;-).--Skully Collins ^Edits 13:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Grammar

Ok, I'll try:P--Lokyz 13:52, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Informal mediation

Could I ask you to look at some of recent Lokyz's contributions on talk of Polish-related articles, and ask her to stop assuming bad faith on the part of Polish editors? It would be great if you could explain to him that Poles are not 'hated by all of their neighbours' and are not 'chauvinists' who are 'mocking' Lithuanian culture and engage in 'witchunts' and so on. I have bad feeling that if such accusations persist, we will end up with Round 2 of the what we had before, and this was not pleasant for anybody invovled. PS. To a lesser extant, M.K. and Dr. Dan are not helping, and as for 'my side', I asked Halibutt to turn his attention to some non-Lithuania related articles, too, in order to defuse what I can. Thank you, -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  20:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I have extremely busy time these days, but I can not hold to making not on this. I am shocked how Piotrus is responding here, look at [1] with what passion article was created, continues insults on language [2] and yet again P.P is showing as "mistake" [3] then already we knew that it is not the mistake. So P.P then doing mediation with your friend at least use En that other contributors could see your "suggestions" properly. And stop mocking Lokyz suggesting that he is a woman! M.K. 20:52, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

What's wrong in being a woman ? :-) I know some very pretty women and not so many pretty men. ;-) --Lysy^talk 22:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

For starters, please don't taunt Halibutt like you did on his talk page. You don't see me annoying Ghirla, Lokyz or M.K. with such messages, do you? I suggest that per Halibutt post, you let time patch up bad karma between you. If you have little time for Wiki, there should be no need for you to devote so many posts to asking Halibutt 'if he really left', is there? Second, some posts by Lokyz and MK are offending to Polish contributors. Since you yourself complained that Polish editors are sometimes offending to Lithuanians (language mockery etc.) may I suggest we try to refrain from such actions, and activly criticize users 'from our side' who make such posts (I, as well as other Polish editors, have criticized Halibutt several times publicly on his talk page when I felt he stepped over the line, I'd appreciate if you and other Lithuanian ones would 'rein' the 'problematic users' on your side).-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  02:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I politly asked for articles on the subject that come up often in discussions with MK. I did not ask for a series of personal attacks. Halibutt and you is my business when I see one of you pestering the other one, just as when I see similar unconstructive actions carried by any editor on Wikipedia. And FYI, there is no war. There is just a couple of trolls (and I am not pointing fingers at any side) who try to destabilize the matter and push fringe POV, while the vast majority of nice guys on each side doesn't want to waste their time and stress themselves with related issues. Alas, all trolls sooner or later get kicked from this side, and the reasonable majority tryumphs. So this pointless conflict - which I will not honor with the name of war - will end.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  03:45, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Questions

Do not expect me to respond to your questions unless you plan to find any backup for your offences - or apologize for slandering my good name, calling me names and accusing me for a set of nasty things. Your approach towards me has been extremely rude, unfair and definitely not right, which I already pointed out several times. Your uncivilized behaviour was a drop too much and I will not extend my good will unless you try to extend your hand towards me this time. I've tried numerous times - and I failed. Now it's your turn to try to repair the wrongs you've done. //Halibutt 02:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Read my comment above. Or the comment I left when leaving wikipedia. Or the comments you left when leaving wikipedia. DO what you please. //Halibutt 02:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I wonder how would you react if someone did to you what you did to me and then pretend nothing happened. Please do not bother me unless you plan to find the courage to be responsible for your own words. Until that happens, our mutual contacts would be a waste of my time. //Halibutt 03:01, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I beg your pardon?! Apparently it's still not the right time for you. I've wasted enough of my time, good day. //Halibutt 03:13, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Birthplaces of Lithuanian sportsmen

Why do you replace birthplaces of people, who were born in the USSR by "Lithuania"? Isn't it obvious, that there was no such country in 1940-1990, there was the Lithuanian SSR, a republic of the USSR? Hence, I believe, that saying "Kaunas, Lithuanian SSR, now Lithuania" or "Kaunas, USSR, now Lithuania" or just "Kaunas" is OK, but "Kaunas, Lithuania" is not, in such cases.

Also I'm always confused and questioned, when I see e.g. "Lithuania" or "Russia" as "nationality" in many articles and even with the flag present nearby sometimes, instead of using "Lithuanians" and "Russians". Although perhaps this doesn't concern you, but some other editors - I didn't dig into this so far. Cmapm 03:24, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Your comment at WP:RFI on Durova's page

Few points. The user has a right to ask for special priviliges, revisions or exceptions. Admins have no obligation to grant such wishes. I agree with Durova (no suprise) that it is a clear enough case: very few of Dr. Dan's contrubtions are constructive, instead, he wastes times of others in pointless and stressing flaming debates. And he can always reply on his talk page, up to using the 'unblock' template. Anyway, I find this statement puzzling: He might as well deserve to be blocked, but not like this. Do you think he should be blocked (clear yes or no, please :). And if 'yes, but not like this', then how? After we spend a month of several in WP:DR? I see no reason to waste time in DR on a user who almost never does anything constructive to our project, but wastes time of many creative contributors by flaming them on talk. This is not Ghirla, who while offending was one of the biggest content creators this project has ever seen... this is a user who is just offending and does little else. There are good reasons to cut through any 'red tape', deal with this nuisance and go back to work. Consider this: if I didn't have to deal with his flaming, I'd have probably had time to raise Lithuanian minority in Poland to DYK quality...-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  23:14, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

FYI, I added a commnet at WP:RFI on the issue, particularly on the Piotrus' behavior. --Irpen 06:16, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sveika

could you come and say something about Pan-Polonism. I created a page but didn't noticed that such a pan-polonism probably don't exists at all and would mean not that thing which I wanted to display. I don't know how didvalstybinė lenkų ideologija, Lenkijos tapatinimas su LDK or something shoud be called in an article. It would be about an ideology which treats certain non-Polish lands as Poland‘s possession. Its matter would be something about denying GDL self dependence and likewise. Dellijks 20:42, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think that such a thinking (ideology?) which treated GDL lands to be Poland's possesion has existed. So maybe the article could be started about that? But about Pan-Polonism I think it was a mistake of mine to start such an article. As I know it can't be deleted, do you know somewhat about deleting? Dellijks 21:28, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Delete if you can. Ačiū. Neaiškiai ten paklausiau. Man kilo mintis kad straipsnis Didvalstybinė Lenkijos samprata galėtų egzistuoti. Bet pats nežinau ar šitaip vadinti būtų objektyvu. Iš esmės toks pavadinimas sakytų, kad Lenkijos istorinės pretenzijos (pvz Pilsudskio bandymas atkurti LDK) nėra pagrįstos. Nesukdamas galvos apie tai koks tiksliai turėtų būti turinys, pagrindimas ir paklausiau. Jei nenori čia ir dabar ar apskritai apie tai nieko pasakyti tai aš ir neprašyčiau gaišti laiko apie tai ką nors atsakinėjant. Tiek to ir klausimo, žodžiu, ištrink jei gali aną netikslų (kas matosi palyginus su pan-germanizmu ir pan-slavizmu) puslapį. Ačiū. Dellijks 15:48, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map of Duchy of Courland

Thanks for the "catch" on my map of the Duchy of Courland and Semigallia. The error stems from Shepherd's original map, which shows what Wikipedia calls the "Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth" as the "Kingdom of Poland". This is, as you may realize, not uncommon (e.g. "Partitions of Poland" and not "Partition of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth").

In any case, I have an idea on how to differentiate these various areas (e.g. Polish Livonia, etc) while still showing that they all were a part of the Commonwealth. I should get the change(s) up within the next day or so. It would be faster, but my day job keeps interfering (drat!!). Thanks again, MapMaster 04:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I have updated the map, which now not only shows the Duchy of Courland & Semigallia, but the local extent of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Let me know if you see any other errors. Thanks, MapMaster 02:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Encyclopedia

Hi Renata - hope all is going well. Just wanted to let you know that I found Encyclopedia Lituanica at a Chicagoland library and they let me check it out...lugged home all 6 volumes. Am currently just surfing through it and using as a reference whenever. But if you have any specific requests, if you let me know, I'd be willing to write them up. Per a request on the project site, am planning to fill in the signatories of the Declaration of Independence - at a rate of 2 or 3 per day, should be done by Feb. 16th.

Also a request: this has occurred before but still can't figure out how to fix it; when I create an article, sometimes the title ends up in lower case, most recently Kaunas botanical garden. Could you, when you have a moment, fix it for me and tell me how you did it? Involves re-directing? Any way to prevent it from happening in the first place? Then also Kęstutis Nakas doesn't come up unless the e is properly entered...also needs a redirect? Novickas 23:40, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, it worked :) Novickas 23:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Polish minority

You might be interested in my comment at Talk:Polish minority in Lithuania. Sca 20:22, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK!

On 27 January 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Herkus Monte, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Savidan 16:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

Sorry, Renata, that I left a mess needing disambiguation...Novickas 20:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some help

Novickas presented interesting link [4] (65psl) in which exhibited genesis of Act of Independence. I tried to experiment to recreating it using techniques like in House of Mindaugas, but I did not master it yet, so maybe you can help with it? M.K. 12:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, no need to rush we have some time till 16. And if you have some remarks you could write them directly into my sand box. M.K. 12:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips, I wrote some preliminary remarks about lost Act in box in order not to forget, yes Aidas story will be presented too. M.K. 12:55, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks I will investigate prepared draft. M.K. 11:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, my draft version of article is in my box, I am not satisfied with the article, main points are, which I hope you will help to resolve (you can always edit my box):

• Paragraph headlines, they are not good at all, especially with those Act's versions
• The paragraph placement is also questionable - maybe place Further developments as one of last paragraph and so on.
• Paragraph Structure of Act is important, but it looks terribly especially with the image! maybe some particular format would help?
• Declaration text probably would look better if it was justified from left and fight, how to do it?
• Did not manage to find any decent source about lost Act version.
• Impact paragraph maybe should be merged? or expanded with something additional?
• Genesis/ table I did not managed to changed colours properly see the first two top boxes, bottom line is not visible. Need help here too :)

and various other issues! Suggestions much welcome. M.K. 12:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I would not kill you for this one :) very nice input, very nice! But when you have time could you advise on other issues of this article (points above). Thanks for helping me. M.K. 10:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

And once again you did your part superbly. answering your questions. First about notifications: (original text, I hope you understand this :)) :

>>>...sausio 26d. nutarimas. Šiuo nutarimu Lietuvos Taryba 12 balsų dauguma, 5 nar. balsavus prieš ir 3 susilaikius, priėmė du skirtingus Lietuvos nepriklausomybės skelbimo notifikacijos projektus: vieną Rusiją (neminint konvencinių ryšių su Vokiet.) ir antrą Vokietijai (pasisakant už konvencinius ryšius su Vokietija ir nurodant kad galutinai tai nuspręs Steigiamasis Seimas ). Protestuojant prieš šį nutarimą iš Tarybos pasitraukė keturi...<<<

and second:

>>>…Šią suvereniteto ir tęstinumo grandinę Lietuvos Taryba norėjo pažymėti ir išlaikyti - principinį teisėtą valstybės buvimą Europos žemėlapyje net nuo XIII a. karaliaus Mindaugo laikų. Aišku, naujaisiais laikais buvo orientuojamasi į valstybę etninėse ribose...<<< Hope you understand it. M.K. 20:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, article was not ready for main space. M.K. 17:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

It was not! M.K. 17:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Person of the Year

Hi Renata, just wondering about your "Person of the Year" award. What did you do to achieve it? Appleseed (Talk) 15:26, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I should have clicked the link. Anyway, congratulations! :-) Appleseed (Talk) 18:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Miscellaneous, 1/30/2007

Hi Renata - continued tense discussion (??) on User talk:Iulius Novickas 12:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lithuanian given names

How do you think this should be organized? Like this maybe:

• Jonas - English equivalent: John
• Ona - English equivalent: Anne
• Gediminas - a xth century ruler of Lithuania

If one were to try and give some background on all the names currently on the list, though, a lot of them would have to come off; they could be re-entered by interested parties over time. On the other hand, this really would be a useful tool for non-natives who are visiting, conducting business, or doing genealogical research. What say? Novickas 16:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notice board

Hi Renata, is there a Lithuanian notice board? Appleseed (Talk) 20:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Bartians, was selected for DYK!

On February 3, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bartians, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 22:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yet another FA

Whoa ! Congrats. --Lysy^talk 22:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Indeed.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  23:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sock puppetry

User:£ once engaged in vandalism (hoax article plus libel on Pro Patria Union: here I reported it, but of course no-one took any measures! (here WP:DR suggested again... oh dear!)). I have considered seemingly new account User:Roobit as well - it has the same extremist anti-Baltic POV as so-called £ had. Constanz - Talk 08:24, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NewArtBot for WP:LITH

Sure, I will do it tonight (my time) when I will come from work. Alex Bakharev 23:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Thanks

Thanks for the note. He is, to put it mildly, a jerk. But he's a very good editor/writer/researcher so I guess we can put up with him! -Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 00:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of CatLinc. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kojiro Takenashi (talk • contribs)

[edit] Council of Lithuania Vilnius Conference

You're right, it needs to be done. But kugelis with sour cream and bacon on top would be better. Novickas 19:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Vilnius Conference OK, show me the kugelis! Novickas 21:54, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, it was delicious! Hope your recovery from the flu is coming along. Novickas 17:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Renata. Did everyone decide during the snowstorm that they should work on their taxes? I'm thinking about blowing off work this afternoon and going to the University of Illinois library, maybe will find some more stuff about the Conference proceedings. Sure would have been nice to have a fly on the wall there. Also, curious now about the Lithuanian month names - when did they come up with those? Soon after 1918, no? IMO that would make an interesting small article. Well, happy Independence Day! Novickas 15:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CP of Lithuania

Its a work in process. Both CPSU and other articles associated with it are a mess. I'm trying to bring some order in the situation, but I'm not sure of what the end result should be, and any suggestions are welcome. In short there needs to be a differentiation made between the following:

• Political parties that where merged into the CPSU
• Regional branches of CPSU (which could also have separate articles, but I'm not sure how to do with naming)
• Parties formed after the break-up of CPSU

--Soman 16:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

My suggestion would be the following:

• Communist Party of Estonia, Communist Party of Latvia, Communist Party of Lithuania dealing with pre-CPSU parties.
• Articles like History of the Communist Party of Lithuania 1940-1991, which in its header clarifies that it deals with the history of LKP, Lithuanian territorial org of CPSU 1940-1991. Summaries of these articles (like 4-5 sentences) present in main CPSU article.

--Soman 16:39, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that there has to be a constitent policy. This doesn't just concern the Baltics, but also Ukraine, Belarus, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, etc.. It can seem that there is a direct continuation between pre-1940 and post-1940, and I don't dispute that in many cases that was the fact. The issue in creating articles is that, through the merger into CPSU(b), the LKP ceased to be an independent party. There needs to be a differentiation here. Also, the solution to the fact that the LKP article is just a stub at the moment is to expand that article. --Soman 17:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adygea

Hi, Renata! Remember administrative divisions of Adygea which was featured not long ago? As promised, I've been looking for ways to improve the layout. Apart from the vast expansion, I am still playing with various ideas for tables format. If you have time and/or inclination, could you take a look at this layout and let me know if it addresses the issues you were previously concerned about? Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 22:04, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem, that happened to me more than on one occasion, too. I just figured you were too busy to answer. I'm glad that the new format is more to your liking. As for the two-line solution, I don't really like it myself, but everything else I tried worked even worse. Anyway, if six months after today you suddenly think of a great solution that would address remaining formatting problems, please don't hesitate to let me know—I'll gladly do the tweaking! Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Dad's Army episodes

With regards to fixing column width allt he wya across, how could thsi be done? I've fixed many of the problems you had with teh article, and am trying on the column width one. Have I done enough to alter you opinion? (expansion of other overviews pending) RHB ^{Talk - Edits} 15:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] user:68.78.54.227

This vandal become very disruptive, maybe you have some tools to stop him see Lithuania article for evidence. M.K. 19:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Žirmūnai to FA

You could now try to nominate Žirmūnai to FA Iulius 09:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe ref formats should be equalized first, M.K. 11:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I am not competent in that. Iulius 08:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I will do it in up coming days, M.K. 18:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

It is done; start nomination? M.K. 12:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 15 February 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Act of Independence of Lithuania, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 15:59, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of XYZZY Awards by category

Hi, I just fixed everything you suggested at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of XYZZY Awards by category, thanks for the feedback. could you have a another look and maybe change your "oppose" vote if its to your satsifaction? cheers. Nespresso 17:44, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

the references are now formatted per cite web. i have tweaked the lead a little: could you explain how it fails to meet WP:LEAD? it is one full paragraph that stands alone as a concise overview of the article, establishing context, and summarizing the article content. there are no word-count guidelines at WP:LEAD, and one paragraph is generally enough for a list. Additional information about the Xyzzies does not belong in this list, but in the main XYZZY Awards article. Cheers. Nespresso 13:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] National Recording Registry Recordings FLC vote

Thanks for evaluating List of recordings preserved in the United States National Recording Registry as a WP:FLC at the discussion page. I believe I have overcome your objections and would appreciate it if you would reconsider you vote. TonyTheTiger 22:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Dad's Army episodes

I've done some heavy editing. Would you consider taking another look and reconsidering your vote? Thanks for your input, RHB ^{Talk - Edits} 01:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Its been removed from the FLC page, but apparently not yet failed? Should I relist it now that all editors concerns have been met? Column width was done shortly after I read your post - I tried it originally with width=100pt or something similar, but left it until earlier today. Thanks, RHB ^{Talk - Edits} 19:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flag

I guess it is a roundabout way of suggesting that the Lithuanian language orginated in Africa. (That's probably why you're all so tall, too!)

PS: Judging by the number of official flag days listed, you're even bigger flag-wavers than we are. (But I don't recall seeing the flag waving anywhere much in LT except on public bldgs.) Sca 22:39, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

You should came to LT on February 16, even the traffic police gave flags (small ones) to drives. M.K. 12:48, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] UCINET deletion

I'm confused why my (very stubby) article on UCINET was deleted. It was given a db-spam tag, but I was really just trying to describe the software. I started the article because I had spent some time trying to figure out what this software was exactly (it was mentioned in class), and I thought a brief article at least mentioning what the software's intended use was would be better than nothing for others that found themselves in my position. I can assure you that I have no relationship with the makers of the software (and I wouldn't even recommend its use after researching it), but I'm not sure why it shouldn't have a page on Wikipedia. Maybe I'm just confused as to why some proprietary software is allowed a page and some is not. I was considering starting an article for Pajek, another software suite with similar intended use, but I'll wait to hear back on this first. Spud603 22:29, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the response... just what I was looking for. Spud603 04:43, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robin Raven deletion

You speedily deleted Robin Raven with "nn actor" as the reason given. Could you explain? The article was written in good faith, and was factual, including references to outside sources such as imdb. Thanks in advance for responding. — Eric Herboso 08:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lithuanian Nationality Law

I can see the reasoning behind this policy...but have no guidance as to whether the law texts are in the public domain or not. The Constitutional Court website at [5] is clearly marked with a copyright symbol. Suggestions? Novickas 13:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Would you like to start contributing to "Did you Know" which updates every 6 hours on the main page? The problem is that the Template:Did_you_know is protected, and admins have to add "did you know" below that templates. And sometimes we have backlogs of up to 10 hours.

I invite you to familarize yourself with the DYK system: people list their suggestions here. Then another editor if it qualifies updates:Template:Did_you_know/Next_update.

Then its just cut and paste to Template:Did_you_know and give everyone credits. --Parker007 05:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Philosophiae, Philosophae

Thanks for catching the formatting on these redirects. ... Kenosis 17:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reconsideration

There has been a call for reconsideration by objectors at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of recordings preserved in the United States National Recording Registry. TonyTheTiger 14:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 3 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lietuvos aidas, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--BigHaz - Schreit mich an (Ačiū for the contribution - and hopefully I protected the image correctly)

[edit] Zverynas

You might be interested in this:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=181807

Sca 23:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAC2 - List of recordings preserved in the United States National Recording Registry

You voiced an opinion on FLC1, but have not chimed in on FLC2. Feel free to voice an opinion and hopefully a supportive one. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 08:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Galleries of Fair Use images

Renata, what are our current policies on the galleries of fair use images? Are galleries like Spike_TV#Logos allowed? Alex Bakharev 02:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks! Alex Bakharev 03:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another copyright question

Sorry for bothering you in the middle of tax season. Would you review my action here? If you agree with me, what is the implication for the Feynman article, which contains inferior PD images? Thanks - NYC JD (objection, asked and answered!) 18:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adygea

Hi, Renata! If you are still interested in this, I will welcome your comments on the new revision of the administrative divisions of Adygea featured list, which is now on peer review here. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

No, I never give up :) Perfectionism is, unfortunately, the story of my life—I seem to never be able to actually finish anything because nothing is ever up to standards and can always be further improved :) Anyway, if you could find a minute for a review, I'd certainly much appreciate it!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 23:37, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Just wondering about FU images

Just wondering why you removed the RPI logo from the template. Is that an invalid fair-use? I was trying to balance the template's appearance. Also, I noticed a few other universities doing similar things eg. (Duke University, and MIT). Danski14 21:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ?

Hey, Renata, what's with the tone here? My message was a very polite and friendly advise. Anyone is free to ignore it. --Irpen 16:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] thanks for the review of Taiwanese aborigines

• Thanks for the review of Taiwanese aborigines!
• I left three barnstars on the WP talk page...
• Later! --Ling.Nut 13:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed review. I appreciate it. Maowang 00:14, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Area element

Please may I have the content for the deleted article userfied to me. It seemed a reasonable maths article, listed as a missing topic, so I'd like to recreate it. Strange the original author blanked it, but that's his whim! --Steve _(Stephen) ^talk 03:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response --Steve _(Stephen) ^talk 04:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please restore Milkwall, Gloucestershire

• 03:47, 2 April 2007 Renata3 (Talk | contribs) deleted "Milkwall, Gloucestershire" (content was: '{{db-bio}}Milkwall is a small village with a friendly local pub and a local shop.')

Could you please restore the article Milkwall, Gloucestershire, and add the following categories at the end of the article: {{Gloucestershire-geo-stub}} [[Category:Forest of Dean]] [[Category:Villages in Gloucestershire]] I think the consensus is that Cities and villages are notable, regardless of size, according to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes. When I want to verify the existence of a British town or village, I look it up at http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk, which allows me to add the town's grid reference to the article. --Eastmain 05:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Could you restore the article to my userspace as User:Eastmain/Milkwall, Gloucestershire so that I could fix them there, as I did Joys Green? I didn't create either article. I noticed that someone else had created the article and that it had been deleted, so I wanted to fix the article. --Eastmain 23:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] House of Mindaugas on hold

Just a note to let you know that I have placed House of Mindaugas on GA hold. Let me know if you fix the items I listed, and I'll take another look. Thanks. Mike Christie (talk) 02:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mykolas Kęsgaila

Hi, Renata! When you get back, could you, please, take a look at Mykolas Kęsgaila and Mykolas Kęsgaila (died 1476)? The latter is definitely poorly named, but I am not sure what it should be renamed to, so I'm asking you, the only Lithuanian I know. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article deletion

Hello - I noticed that five days ago you deleted Tony Payne without an AfD. There are people who have edited this page and other related ones for Tony's work (like Matthias Media and The Briefing) who would have preferred this go to an AfD. Can you please put this on an AfD debate, or failing that, userfy the page to me so that I can edit it and replace it? JRG 01:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree to this AfD asking --Altermike 07:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of PESWiki. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Altermike 07:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Secret Pants

Please explain why this page was delete and protected. I have proven why they are notable and have reference everything I possibly could have. I even heavily compromised what the content was because it was deemed "unnecessary" by users ChrisGriswold and TruthinComedy. Why is it that you guys continue to bully me around on this? Thedanberg 22:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rebuttal

I'm really glad you guys all look at this so objectively. Just because they are not notible in your opinion its completely irrelevant. I was told I wasn't allowed to use the fact that they (yes, "they" being as I'm not part of the troupe as you apparently think) were in the top ten most subscribed to comedy podcast on iTunes because Apple does not post past records. They were, at one point, #8. They are currently #11 in comedy and #27 overall. That's not notable!?!

Unfortunately, that is not something that can be linked, but if you go and actually look, that is ahead of several other "notable" groups such as Olde English, Joe Cartoon, Queer Duck, and Comedy Central. As a matter of fact, they are actually featured RIGHT NOW on the podcast main page in the iTunes store. Too bad they are not good enough for a FREE ONLINE REFERENCE SITE!! Disagree? Let me know. Thedanberg 01:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fine...

How do I get this unblocked? I have another reference point that maybe you consider "notable." Here you go, Secret Pants featured on Comedy Central's blog: http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/cc_insider/2006/05/jerry_bruckheim.html Thedanberg 05:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] [edit] Copyright problems with Image:Metro Athens extensions en.jpg

Hello Renata, about the Metro artcle I had contacted with them and they have given me permission and I have made some relative comments, if I remember correctly. If there is still any concern, you can always contact them through email. (Alkiviadis 05:56, 10 April 2007 (UTC))

As a matter of fact I have the email sent to me from a representative of Athens Metro. You can always get a translation if you want because it's in Greek.

Η ΑΤΤΙΚΟ ΜΕΤΡΟ ΑΕ σας χορηγεί την άδεια να χρησιμοποιήσετε φωτογραφίες του Μετρό της Αθήνας από τη διαδικτυακή της πύλη (www.ametro.gr), όπου επιπλέον μπορείτε να βρείτε επικαιροποιημένες πληροφορίες για το Μετρό της Αθήνας (δείτε τις σχετικές ανακοινώσεις Τύπου στην ενότητα ΕΠΙΚΟΙΝΩΝΙΑ) καθώς και τον νέο χάρτη του δικτύου, όπου πλέον συμπεριλαμβάνεται η νέα Γραμμή 4.

Στη διάθεσή σας για οποιαδήποτε διευκρίνιση.

Χάρης Τσιματζής

gz000@hotmail.com wrote:

   Name: Γιώργος Ζερβάκης. 

E-mail: gz000@hotmail.com Company: Telephone: Age: 25 - 44 Comments: Γράφω στην ηλεκτρονική εγκυκλοπαίδεια Wikipedia και θα ήθελα μια σχετική άδεια για δημοσίευση φωτογραφιών από τον ιστοχώρο σας. To URL για την Αγγλική έκδοση είναι: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attiko_Metro_S.A. ενώ για την Ελληνική είναι: http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Αθηναϊκό_μετρό. Ευχαριστώ εκ των προτέρων.

Date: 27/1/2006

ΔΗΜΟΣΙΕΥΣΗ: NAI

[edit] Following up on your message

Hi, Renata! Sorry I did not promptly respond to your feedback. I took the liberty of moving your list to the peer review page; hope it's OK with you. I am planning to respond there soon.

As for Kęsgaila, what I was trying to say that Mykolas Kęsgaila (died 1476) is a horrible title for an article, but I can't move it to Mykolas Kęsgaila because it is about a different person. If you could disambiguate those two properly, that'd be great. I'd do it myself, but I have no clue what disambiguator would work the best for these people. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Konkani Dictionary, deletion of article.

I have posted my comments on the talk page Talk:Konkani Dictionary. Kindly go thorugh it. --Deepak D'Souza (talk• contribs) 04:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I have no problem if it takes space. Probably this comment will take more space than the redirect itself :-). Fine with me --Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 13:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC).