User talk:Renata3/archive2

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[edit] Image:Vilnius city mun location.png

Why did you request red on white? There are 60 such maps (User:renata3/gallery) and the rest of them are green on green (because it's sort of theme color for Lithuanian subdivisions). Renata3 17:36, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, green on green is hard to see, and I imagine the difference can be impossible for some people to make out. Of course, I think all the maps should be changed, not just one. Also, they should all be SVG now, and they should be put at the Wikimedia Commons instead of here. dbenbenn | talk 23:28, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

You wanna change them? :) 'cause for me they are fine as they are. And they are on commons - first they were here, and then uploaded to commons (my mistake, I admit). Renata3 01:43, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

No, sorry, too much work for me. Feel free to revert the one that got changed to red and white. (Though perhaps User:Mysid would be willing to change the colors on all of them?) By the way, is it okay with you if I delete the local versions, so the Commons versions will show? dbenbenn | talk 02:03, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Juan Moreira

Yes, I'm thinking of cleaning up that article and another one I've written. I will do it later, since I'm out of time these days. That article was based on a Spanish printed source and it contained several informal and gaucho slangs so it was very very difficult to translate and get the information organized. Kind regards, Luis María Benítez 12:23, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Templates and Categories

Regarding your question on WP:CFD...I'm not an expert but I believe you need to do an edit of some kind to the pages that have the template on them in order to get the category to update. This can be a null edit (i.e. adding an extra space, etc.). Christopher Parham (talk) 06:32, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm glad you got it sorted out....and thanks for the barnstar! Christopher Parham (talk) 02:00, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Šilutė district municipality

Ten buvo nurodytas Vainuto seniūnijos gyventojų skaičius(matomai kopijuota is oficialaus savivaldybės puslapio). Šilutės rajone antroje vietoje tarp miestelių turėtų būti Švėkšna, Ž.Naumiestis arba Rusnė, deja radau tik tikslų Švėkšnos skaičių. Matyt manęs gal ir nematysi, bet darbais stengsiuosi prisidėti, tiek lietuviškoje, tiek angliškoje laidoje. Linkėjimai iš ILLINOIS, USA. --Vytis1 14:11, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] What will kill Wikipedia

I agree entirely on what you are saying. The vandals always make big edits people know not to trust and are reverted quickly. Accuracy is no problem in long, looked-at articles (stubs are a different matter). But server size and lack of volunteers is a major threat. Unfortunatly life indeed does love irony; and there's only so much server room. Which means I can't say with any certainty that your prediction is wrong (I hope it is). But...it's going to take a long time before we get to that point, and everyone is happy to help and prevent this. Right? Right? HereToHelp 01:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

• I guess I could split the Community portal up, but I think we should give people time to eliminate all possible opposition before doing something and come up with names for the two new portals. I like Help portal, but To-do portal? Maybe Open tasks portal, or something someone else might suugest. Give it time, I think it will come out well. As for What will kill Wikipedia, just hope we're wrong. I'm going to copy this over to your userpage so you see it. (you'd think we'd figure out how to have it all in one place, you know? Until then see both of our talk pages.) Regards, HereToHelp 18:47, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
• I'm going to have to archive this disscussion in its entirety later...sigh. Sure, I'll draft the Help portal , because I'm sure of it's name, but later. HereToHelp 23:03, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
• Ok, speaking of archiving, I went ahead and got all the responses on my talk page. If you want to save youself the trouble, go and copy and paste it to your (this) page. HereToHelp 01:30, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thanks for supporting my RfA. I will use my new powers wisely! --Wikiacc (talk) 19:13, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Maintenance colab

Thanks for the heads up...while I was re-adding the link, I see the Community Portal still needs fixing up. Whee! -- Beland 23:01, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] List of national coats of arms

Best to break them out into a seperate list like List of non-sovereign nation flags. Certainly basing the main list on List of Soverign states does make life much easier from the POV side of things. You might like to add a comment to Talk:List of sovereign states (where I have mentioned you name) because if a line was added to that, then a link to "flags of" and "coat of arms of" might be the solution for both. Philip Baird Shearer 09:51, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Expellees

Sure Renata, I'll try to dig and come up with something. It's just something I knew all my life. The expellees were settled in the southern parts of former East Prussia. In fact, half of the population of the Warmińsko-Mazurskie Voivodship is descended from the expellees from Lithuania. My dentist's family was settled in Lidzbark Warmiński for example. Who told you it's not true? Space Cadet 00:28, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about "Reniu", but it just wrote itself. In Polish it means "dear Renata", that's it. I will temporarily delete the statement in question and find something to your satisfaction. Space Cadet 12:55, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Ukraine is a different story to me, because my own huge familiy was expelled from Lwów. I need to ask you something: Are you also questioning the expulsions of Germans from the "Recovered Territories" or just the expulsions of Poles from the former Eastern Poland. Space Cadet 15:13, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] bot question

It fixes many problems (such as people calling external links "weblinks" etc.) but yes, most of the problems it finds are capitalisation. It changes them to the capitalisation in general use and specified the the manual of style. thanks Martin 08:33, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you so much for nominating me for adminship, I wasn't really expecting it quite so soon. I am quite speechless!, although I still managed to blab on when answering the candidate questions on my RfA. I have added it to the main list as you requested. Please see Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Wackymacs. I have accepted the RfA and answered the questions. Heck...I'm even blabbing now *tapes my mouth shut* Many thanks again! — Wackymacs 19:29, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

• It is hard for you to say I should keep cool when someone was rude to me behind my back, and lots of people are voting unfairly on the basis of edit summaries and one wrongly tagged image. I am obviously not going to get the administrator tools because of a few idiots arguing over edit summaries and other silly reasons. How do I withdraw the RfA? — Wackymacs 06:59, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Some strange festival

Unfortunately, I can't answer with any "correct" answer, as I haven't specifically studied ancient Latvian traditions and festivals. However, my common sense tells me this was probably meant to be Katrīnas diena ('the day of Katrina', which nevertheless ocurs in November 25, not November 5), but I have never ever heard of any festivals associated with this date.

As far as I know, most of the articles in English Wikipedia that are about the mythology of ancient Latvia are from some strange source and need to be reviewed. --Jūzeris | Talk 21:54, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Diacrit

Greetings. Unfortunately, I had to temp block the user who was trying to make WP an umlaut-free zone! I think that I have reverted all of the removals. If it comes up again, let me know. Regards, --Fire Star 16:28, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

For determining sockpuppetry, you have to be a bit of a detective. You have to look at the timestamps of the edits, the area of the edits and the nature of the edits. Over time, patterns start to show themselves. For instance, Diacrit never discussed his edits at all. Does the new guy edit this way? Even so, it is an inexact science. Until it is clear, the best way to act in good faith is to treat the suspected sockpuppet as a different user. If the user vandalises, he gets warned 1, 2 or 3 times (depending on the nature of the vandalism) and gets blocked in turn if they continue. If a new one pops up immediately after that doing the same things, then the indefblockeduser and sockpuppet templates come into play. If the puppets (or their bots) are attacking just one page, or a small suite of pages over and over sometimes temp protecting the page(s) is a time saving option. Cheers, --Fire Star 16:44, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Wow! I take some time off and miss all the fun! I'm glad everybody pitched in the way they did. Cheers, --Fire Star 13:57, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Urgent vandal help needed

Diacrit (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log) (blocked) - persistent user who creates numerous user names to remove Template:Foreignchar from various articles. Created user names include: User:Jeaijij, User:Agraman, User:Oagafauou, User:Qesecaue, User:Uefot, User:Huaelo, User:Bifo, User:Timoa, User:Feoouubiao, User:Eooaqinol, User:Xeuuces, and that's only ones I have caught on recent changes page. Most of them have only 1 edit. And list is growing every second! just look at new user log. Renata3 22:41, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

You should ask for help at WP:AN/I or WP:AIV. --cesarb 22:45, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I believe that every sockpuppet of the vandal up to the present time is blocked and their edits reverted. Unfortunately, this person seems to be using multiple IPs, so it's a bit problematic to block him by IP. -- Curps 12:36, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your comments. I enjoy WP and my enthusiasm shows no sign a waning although I think I shall move to a differnt task soon, maybe go over some of thiose stubs and turn them into proper articles. I agree with you about the edit summary but I get lazy. ping 07:27, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] FireFox RFA

Renata3/archive2

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Thanks for your support on my request for adminship.

The final outcome was (96/2/0), so I am now an administrator. If you ever have any queries about my actions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Again, thanks!

FireFox 19:08, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use for coa

You wrote (on my talk page): Thanks for your answer fair use for coa, but I am bringing this here. Hope you don't mind. I have uploaded all the coa's in List of cities in Lithuania and some more. But what I should do now? Redraw them? Most of them are from geraldika.ru, ngw.nl, litva.lt, or crwflags.com. Very few are from gov sites.

Note: I have no idea what is fair use (even though I have read the wiki article about it) and I hate law. So if you could just tell me what to do... :) Also my graphic abilities on scale from 0 to 10 are about 1. So redrawing them is not really an option for me. Renata3 20:28, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't have a simple answer. You could ask for someone qualified to redraw them; or you could post this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fair use and ask for a clearer guideline there; or you could use a template which claims fair use and try to proved a proper rationale; or you could not have images of the coats of arms.

Fair use is a tricky but important legal doctrine in US copyright law. It says that when you use a limited amout of an admittedly copyrighted work for a proper purpose, in a way that doesn't hurt the copyright owner too much, you are acting leagally. Ther is no automatic formula for what is and what sin't fair use. The only way you know for sure that soemthing is fair use is if soemone sues you for copyright infringmenbt, you defend on the grounds of fair use, adn the court rules in your favor. it is very much a case by case question, and depends hevily on the facts of the particular case. You can be almost sure if soemone esle has used a simialr copyrighted work in much the same way, and has won in court. If there has been no court case very similer to yours, then you have to tro ro reason from less similar cases, adn guess what the court would do if you were sued. Fair use is a defense, which means it is only raised by someone who has been sued for copyright infringment. The classic form of fair use is a book reviewer who quotes passages from the book under reveiw to analyze them, or the teacher who makes copies of a passage for his class, to serve as the basis for a lesson or discussion. Note that in both cases the person using the copyrighted work is analyzing or discussing thst work, not just copying it. Note also that neither uses the whole work, only a small part of it. Note that neither is at all likely to hurt the comercial intersts of the copyright holder -- people will not refrain from buying a book because they can read a reveiw instead. Note also that both uses are of a kind generally considered socially beneficial. These are the kinds of factors considered when determing whether a use of copyrighted materiel is fair use.

Wikipedia tends to be suspicious of fair use, partly because it is often claimed by people who realy mean "I don't have any right to use this, but i want to and don't think it does any harm". Also, sicne part of what makes soemthign fair use is whether it is being used in a commercial setting, contet that is acceptable fair use for wikipedia itself might not be for comercial mirrors and re-users of wikipedia content. Also fair use is specific to US copyright law, and similar concepts in the laws of other countries where they exist, are much more restrictive. Because of all of this, our fair use policies are rather more restritive than the law probably requires.

I'm sorry not to be more help, this is a tricky and complex subject, and much depends on the exact source of the content being sued, who the copyright holder is, and exactly how it is being used. DES ^(talk) 21:42, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Copied from User Talk:DESiegel: Ok, thanks for such a long answer. But are coa's copyrighted? I mean, some family coa might be, but governmental? If I would redraw them, how somebody would say that I did not just copy paste it from somewhere, because they all are the same. There is one original, confirmed by a decrete by the president and then it is reproduced by others. How do I reproduce reproduction so it could be released to public domain?

I just read a copyright law by the Lithuanian government. Now it reads (official translation):

Article 5. Works not Attributed to the Subject Matter of Copyright

1. Copyright shall not apply to:

3) official state symbols and insignia (flags, coat-of-arms, anthems, banknote designs, and other state symbols and insignia);

Now the question is: are city, municipality and county coa's official state symbols?

Ah, I loved that template... Such a no-brainer... And I hate law. :) Renata3 03:28, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Well in traditional heraldry, the only official think is the balzon, the written description, and different heraldic artists can do different versions of the CoA which all match the blazon, but are not identical in artistic detail, and which would be subject to copyright by the artist or the artist's employer. In more modern use, particuarlly by a goverment or institution, the actual visual form would be official, and all correct versions would be direct copies. In the latter case there is less of a copyright issue, IMO.

I think CoA's probably are "State symbols" under the above law, but not every country has that law -- some claim copyright in state symbols, I think. I think the above law would be reason enouigh to create {{tl:LithuanianStateSymbol}} which would declare that anything taggeds with it was a Lithuanian state symbol, and exempt from copyright under that law. if you send me the details on the source of the law (so that I can cite it proerply -- I mean it's official titel or number or whatever, and where you got the official translation) I will create that template, and that will solve the probelm for Lithuanian governmental CoAs. DES ^(talk) 15:19, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of theatres in Mumbai

Could you please revisit this AFD. I think you might want to consider changing your vote based on the comments I added. - Mgm|^(talk) 14:47, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi! Thank you for your comments. Well, the thing which I would like to stress is that the oppose votes is based on WP:NOT, but fails to mention the exact criteria. "Indiscriminate information" does not apply here as it has limits. I'll try and clean it up, though I have very little time on my hands till next week. =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:30, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

I have attempted to clean up the article. Added a lead, references and an image. =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:59, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Didn't have much time, but I have neatened it. I don't know if that will change your vote though. (I am really hard pressed for time to improve it any further at the moment) =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:18, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Great Scandal

Just to report addition of links, the one naming it The Great Scandal, from India, I consider a good round up . Not sure its strong about the German Monarchy restoration 1929/30 conspiracy. One's head spins with source and era . It costs time , I know , but you could do a quick check for NPOV or what . ps WP's 80 hours a day sometimes , year in yr out . thanx? EffK 17:02, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Paper Clips Project, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

[edit] Deir

Hello, Renata. Do you know what happened to DeirYassin? I haven't seen him here in a while... Halibutt 02:13, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

No, of course I don't take it too much to my heart, though I do take it personally (as people are judging who I am, which is a pretty personal thing). As to my alleged or real bias I would be really glad if you provided me with some diffs and links. Perhaps not now, perhaps after this whole RfA ends, but it would really be helpful. So far many people accused me of bias or pushing some irrational POV, though seldom was I able to speak of some specific issues. Anyway, take care and say hello to Deir once you meet him. In a way I miss him as we still have lots of open issues and there are not enough Lithuanian speakers to help us with the sources... Halibutt 03:08, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

No need to be sorry about the spelling, it's 5AM here and I've been at work for some 24 hours now. A new day is starting and it will not end any time soon...

A to your comments - I must say that I'm quite puzzled as I remember the whole thing differently. I listened to all proposals and decided to stay with mine. At the same time I also work on finding some better solution (together with Piotrus, Irpen and many other guys) to suit all and fit in all articles on cities, be them in Poland, Ukraine or Rwanda. Anyway, it's kind of sad when people remember you as the person to refuse to accept some crazed users trying to pretend that the city in question was Lithuanian since times immemorial and not as the guy who wrote most of the article on Vilnius, or whatever you want to call that city. So, basically, people critisize me for defending my point of view at the talk pages, sometimes completely forgetting that the article pages are in most cases unaffected by the content disputes... Anyway, have a good day/night. Halibutt 04:00, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

I wonder if we can find a single unbiased (100% NPOV) editor at wiki. As users of various nationalites who have cast their support behind him have attested, Halibutt is always willing to discuss and reach a consensus. But if you know of some events that disprove this, please let me know. Otherwise, maybe you should reconsider your vote for neutral? Or do you really think that Halibutt would abuse the admin rights if he was given them?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 05:44, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Sure, I can understand that - I just wanted to make sure you were certain about your vote and the difference between opposing somebody and being neutral. I'd have thought that Halibutt defence of Vilnus against Zvinbudas vandal would have earned him the respect and friendship of most Lithuanian editors. I wish DY was here, I'd very much like to see his vote there (can you contact him on wiki-lt perhaps?). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 06:09, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Same time here (I am now in Pittsburgh :>). It's kind of funny how people tend to remember the controversies and forgot the good deeds - but this is life (and we all know what's her nickname :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 06:34, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

DY has voted in support of Halibutt and added an extensive comment. Would this cause you to review your vote? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 19:06, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

How so? I am all for constructive criticism, so I'd appreciate the info what I could have done better.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 20:50, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

I would like to express my thanks to all the people who took part in my (failed) RfA voting. I was both surprised and delighted about the amount of support votes and all the kind words! I was also surprised by the amount of people who stated clearly that they do care, be it by voting in for or against my candidacy. That's what Wiki community is about and I'm really pleased to see that it works.
As my RfA voting failed with 71% support, I don't plan to reapply for adminship any more. However, I hope I might still be of some help to the community. Cheers! Halibutt 05:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar. I'm not sure I deserved it being a conflict user, but still. That was nice, especially considering your lack of faith in me. Halibutt 21:19, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Centre for Cartography letter ?

Hi Renata, I'm curious, was there any success to your letter to Vilnius University Cartography Center ? --Lysy ^(talk) 19:13, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Street Fighter template

I've put the width back to 100%, but I'd really rather keep the ndash's for now (tho I did replace them with the unicode ndash (not to be confused with a hyphen on ye olde keyboard) so they wouldn't look so ugly when viewed/edited). BTW, sorry for the lag time in responding, I missed your reply till today! :( —Locke Cole ^{(talk) (e-mail)} 22:48, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cheers

I am now an admin, and I simply wanted to say thank you for your support! Steve block talk 09:36, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Great Wikipedia Turkey-fest!

I did the relative thing at my brother's house on Thursday. Lots of fun, but I have a cold and so does my wife. Hers is pretty nasty, so she rested up here at home, I made the appearnace (and indulged in a great meal) and drove home that same night. With four days off, I've been spending more time doing other things. Too much fun.  :) - Lucky 6.9 02:44, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Happy and cheerful, yes. Wikipedia is a real downer this weekend. This site is getting really, really nuts. It's geting harder to contribute in positive ways, but I persist. - Lucky 6.9 03:02, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Yay! Unfortunately, I didn't bring home any turkey nor any of my mother's incredible stuffing. On the other hand, I'm going out for some fish tacos in a few minutes! Only in California. - Lucky 6.9 03:11, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Classic Rock

Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most like classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate! RENTASTRAWBERRY ^{FOR LET?} röck 00:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sponsored links

I'm rather afraid I can't... Angela came to Australia for a few days and I quizzed her on it. It's all verbal, I'm rather afraid! - Ta bu shi da yu 07:08, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I never overly worry about what's going on in the Wiki. I just focus on my articles, and put my $0.02 in when I feel it warrants :) And I use WP:SIGN to keep me up to date! - Ta bu shi da yu 07:20, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

I think it has already happened. However, you wouldn't notice it: it's on one tools page and answers.com is helping us by giving us a reciprocal royalty. I think it's a good thing, personally. It's hardly intrusive. - Ta bu shi da yu 13:16, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lithuanian Copyright symbols

I noticed your post regarding Lithuanian law and copyright. This is probably farfetched but I was wondering if Latvia passed similar laws. See, I am trying to upload the flag of Courland,http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/lv-cour.html, but it appears that copyright would prohibit it unless a special case would apply. The flag is sourced from a 1936 book, and is of a former nation. So I don't know if it would qualify even with the law, or if it would qualify because it is no longer a nation. Sorry, this post was a bit of a ramble. Have a good day! Falphin 03:54, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks for your reply. I'll see if anyone their knows. I don't have any tools on my computer to redraw the flag, and I have tried finding a free program on the net but haven't been successful.(Probably just looking in the wrong places). Thanks again. Falphin 19:51, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rune stone, categories - information out of control

Remembered your comments from my talk page, and just wanted to let you know of some suggestions & tests being thought upon at Talk:Rune_stone. If you have some time, I'd appreciate your input or suggestions! Mceder 01:06, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nandrolone Decanoate

Hey Renata...I removed the copyvio portions from Nandrolone Decanoate (i.e., most of the article), as well as the speedy delete tag. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on perhaps renaming the article in accordance with the names given on the page referenced in the stub. Tomer^talk 04:02, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I.e., Deca Durabolin or Nandrolone ... Tomer^talk 04:04, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm... nevermind :-) I'm gonna turn it into a redirect to Nandrolone and include the Reference link in that article. Cheers, Tomer^talk 04:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

RE: Adminship, thanks :-); RE: Anabolics, yeah, I was never a big fan of Chemistry either. :-p; RE: that article, the only part that wasn't a copyvio was the first sentence and a half.  :-p Tomer^talk 04:10, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Ugh. I don't have time to take care of it right now, but it looks like all of that user's contribs are essentially expansion on copyvios. :-\ Tomer^talk 04:13, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mai Neng Moua

I've restored it - 700 seems notable enough to me. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 04:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] www.wga.hu

Dear Renata, I think I had a bit of new-born-user when I wrote that. Yes, I received a generic permission through e-mail from one of the www.wga.hu webmasters, but later administrator criticed me for I moved tons of material and pictures from that site to Wikipedia. Somewhere I read that their images are public domains, however. But I can't be more specific, sorry. Hugs from Attilios.

Labas! About rewriting them... yow!, I asked to used their text exactly 'cause I feel terrific to write about art. That's difficult... And I'm not a master in English, just currently trying to learn to write better. Ate. Attila. P.S.: "Ate" and "Labas" are exactly all my knowledge of Lithuanian. How about your Italian?

So how far did it get? Can those articles stay? I would like to end it once and for all. Renata3 22:14, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

• Hi, can you fill me in on where you fit in this. I don't remember speaking to you about the WGA problem. -- JJay 22:18, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please take part in the improval of this article

Hello. I would like to inform you that there is an ongoing discussion at article Territorial claims of the Baltic States (formerly was known as "Lost territories of the Baltic States", but was recently renamed; some users seems to disagree with that renaming). Recent edits as well were accused of POV, and, in fact, article was disputed for a long time already. There are currently no Lithuanian contributors to that article, therefore your opinion is much needed. It would be nice if you would add that article to your watchlist and continue helping to improve it until a decition will be reached about its future (there is currently a poll about it in the article's talk page). I hope together we all will be able to make that article neutral. Kaiser 747 10:46, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Hi! I'm having trouble uploading my photo. The photo is in public domain. The image first appeared on Government public access t.v. Channel 17 in Burlington, Vermont in 2004. It was re-aired on C-Span as public domain. http://crisericson.com and http://chrisericson.com Every time I try to upload it I recieve a message that says: "." is not a recommended image file format. Have any ideas? crisericson@ispwest.com

[edit] Partitions of Poland

Would you take a look at talk:Partitions of Poland. We are discussing a possible change of the name of the article there and I believe that a Lithuanian perspective view would be helpful. --Lysy ^(talk) 10:21, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Subdivisions

Hi, Renata! I can tell you for sure that I do have that information. Problem is, it's very scattered and unorganized (which is, along with the lack of time, is the reason why I stopped working on the project for a while). The other thing is that most of it is in Russian. If you have no problem with Russian (which is probably not the case, because it's not in your Babel box), I'll be more than glad to ship you everything I have so far. If Russian is an obstacle, I can translate the bulk of the information so you'll have a good starting point, but that may take a while (and a long while at that). Please let me know what you prefer.

And, hey, great job on Subdivisions of Lithuania! A very interesting and a high-quality article so far.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 02:16, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Please check your mailbox—I sent you some materials you might find useful.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 16:02, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bernardines

No, they are not exactly the same but the redirect is the best could be done now. You're right that all this is a bit confusing. The orders divided, joined and changed their names throughout history. To make it more complicated, the names and other datails are often different in various countries. Benedictines is one of the names used in Poland (and Lithuania ?) to call one of the Franciscan orders: Friars Minor. I'm not sure if this name is recognized in English, but I've created the redirect in hope to avoid some confusion (but I created more instead ?). --Lysy ^(talk) 09:01, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

You may be right, that this is something different. Probably that's the matter of wrong (and naive) translation. Need to investigate. --Lysy ^(talk) 13:40, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pažaislis monastery

If you have a minute, maybe you could take a look at and hopefully improve Pažaislis monastery, a small article that I've started recently but do not have enough information to expand. --Lysy ^(talk) 09:14, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] You've been barnstarred!

I hereby award you the Tireless Contributor Barnstar for your monumental edits to Lithuanian litas. Keep up the great work! ナイトスタリオン ✉ 15:34, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reply re:your Partitions of Poland inquiry

Crossposted with my user talk page.

Wow, the discussion for some reason reminds me of that at Talk:Oleg of Chernihiv and Talk:Mikhail of Chernihiv. It is a mix of nationalism, Wikipedia policy issues, common English use issues, the terms used by other encyclopedias and literature on the subject. All in all, I believe it boils down to the general naming policy of Wikipedia, except in this case we are not talking of the name of a place, but of how the series of events should be named. I'd recommend to bring this to a higher level by initiating something like Wikipedia:Naming conventions/Geographic names; only, of course, it would be regarding the names of historic events.

I also choose not to participate in the discussion—partially because I am not so sure myself which name is better, partially because I am going to be eaten by both Polish and Lithuanian editors :), and partially because it looks like a time committment I cannot afford at this time. I am sure, though, that you will be able to find other Russian editors who would be delighted to participate.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 16:19, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Thank you for awarding me a barnstar. I, perhaps, do not completely deserve it, both because the project is not finished and because I had too much fun working on it :) I will wear it with pride, though. Thank you!—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 16:26, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Polish monarchs

Hi Renata3, I think the situation with Polish monarchs is different. The naming has been giving historians headaches for a long time. There's no real consensus so we're trying to hash it out on the talk page. As far the the PoP/PoPLC is concerned, I don't believe Google results are the answer to everything. The argument I've been trying to make for not moving the article consists of two parts: 1) that PoP is a valid term 2) that PoP is used *much* more often than any other term. I provide the Google results to prove the second part by illustrating the overwhelming difference in usage. If there difference wasn't so dramatic, I wouldn't be opposed to the move. Appleseed (Talk) 00:48, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, sorry about not being precise with my Google comment. It's my understanding that some folks on WP use Google like it's the be-all and end-all. I was only trying to say that the Google results were only one part of my argument, and the reason I was using them was because they were so dramatic. Appleseed (Talk) 02:21, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Regarding your suggestion to create a disambig page--even before the proposal to move the PoP article, I was going to create "main articles" for each of the partitions with links from PoP. But by turning the PoP article into a disambig page, we would have a disambig where other languages have an actual article. More imporantly, we would still need to come up with titles for the three partitions. I assume you would prefer First Partition of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth rather than First Partition of Poland. But what about the second and third ones, which occurred after the May 3 Constitution? If you do not want to call it the Second Partition of Poland, would calling it the Second Partition of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth be valid? Appleseed (Talk) 02:35, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Request for English verifying

Hi. I extensively rewrote the article St. Sebastian (Mantegna). As I'm not so confident about my English, can I ask you to jump there for a minute and correct savagely what you feel bad written? Thanks. Attilios.

[edit] My RFA

Hey Renata3! Thanks for your support on my RfA. The final outcome was an unanimous (45/0/0), so I am now an administrator. If you need help, or have a question, please don't hesitate to let me know! Again, thanks! :D --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 03:38, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Note

Hello. Firstly, thank you for contributing at the article Territorial claims of the Baltic States and its discussion. I would like to notify you that I will leave to Frankfurt soon where I will spend quite much time; thus I won't be on Wikipedia for long. Therefore, I would like to ask you and others to continue to contribute there and watch that a solution would be reached, factually accurate name would be chosen, and the article wouldn't just stay disputed forever as it used to be previously. Check the article from time to time (or, even better, put it on watch list) and if you will see that no one discusses anything anymore nor edits the article for a long time (e.g. a week), try to act by implementing voting decition and such. Good luck! (you shouldn't reply to this by the way as most likely I won't be able to check Wikipedia anytime soon as I will leave quickly). Merry Christmas to you :) .Kaiser 747 09:51, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Paksas, litas ir t. t.

Sveika. Ačiū už žinutę. Vistiek apie Lietuvą angliškai wikipedi'joje straipsnių yra, ir kai kas yra pasakyta. Tobulinti reikėtų, be abejonės. Gaila aš pats užsiėmęs dar vienu savanorišku neatlyginamu darbu, tai laisvalaikį tenka dalinti pusiau. Todėl ir pasirodau daug rečiau negu galėčiau kąnors esmingesnio nuveikti. Dėl lito, tai aš šiokios tokios medžiagos turiu, tik neturiu litų nuotraukų. Bet tas gali užtrukti. Dar mano disketėje guli būtinos ir svarbiausios pataisos Vilniui, istorijos skyreliui. Ten yra didelė klaida, sakant, kad Lietuviai iškeitė nepriklausomybę į Vilnių. Taip tikrai nebuvo, bet Lenkams, matyt, šita versija bus patikusi. Taip ir nepaleidžiu tų pataisų. Taip pat ir su Paksu pradėjau. Bet ten jau buvo gerokai sąmoningai iškraipytai pradėta rašyti, nesinorėjo laukti. Parašiau į discussions pslpį nieko nekeisdamas todėl, kad norėjau pažiūrėti, kas čia per žmonės taip “pagražino” Pakso aprašymą, ar puls jie atitaisinėti ir t. t. Nepagalvok, kad norėjau tam parašyti, kad kažkas kitas būtinai imtų ir taisytų. Dabar atrodo viskas ramu: kažkada jau galėsiu užsiimti ir pataisyti.

Beje, nemėgstu aš tų lietuvių-lenkų karų wikipedi'joje. Jeigu ir dalyvauju, tai tik, kaip sakau, kad kažkam vistiek reikia.

Tai tiek. Pasistengsiu, jei kada išpešiu laisvesnę minutę, prisėsti prie wikipedi'jos. Linas Lituanus 13:59, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Gerai. Dėl lito bus. Jeigu nesuspėsiu angliškai, tai bent lietuviškai atsiųsiu svarbiausius duomenis. Turiu gerą straipsnį apie tai. Tik ten nuotraukos laikraštinės kokybės kaip maždaug sakiau. Pats galiu tik 2 ir 5 litų (pagrindinio leidimo monetų) nuotraukas padaryti – turiu monetas :)) (juokauju...tikėkimės nereikės). Ir Tau linksmų švenčių. Linas Lituanus 16:09, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

ĮDĖJAU LIETUVIŠKAI medžiagos apie litą. Linas Lituanus 16:20, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reply by SCA

I didn't intend to offend you. This is not an argument to "throw away Lithuania" at all (I'm married to a Lithuanian from Vilnius!), but rather an argument against the more complex title for the partitions on an English-speaking site. All we're talking about is the title. If I were Lithuanian, I might feel sad that few English speakers know anything about my country, but I wouldn't take offense over it. Anyhow, Atleiskite. Sca 18:38, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I know they don't know. And it's ok with me as long as they show at least a tiny bit of interest and willingness to know. But to say "Ah, I don't care; I can't find on the map, I cannot pronounce the name, and thus it does not exist for me" - I take it deep into my heart. And that's exactly what were you saying (in very different words, though). Renata3 18:53, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

No, that's not what I was saying. You misunderstood. Sca 02:38, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Krzysztof Zygmunt Pac, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Gurubrahma 06:56, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Voice samples

Hi there! Recording voice samples is fairly easy. If you're using Window$ XP, then you don't have to install the microphone, just connect it to the correct port (micro port, not the headphones) and it should work fine. If it still does not work, you might want to check the sound volume settings, at times the micro is muted by default - just uncheck the box then and it should work just fine.

As to the software used, I strongly reccomend Audacity. It's the best program out there, it's free and it's easy to use. As to the tips and tricks - after recording the sample, you might want to separate the stereo onto two channels and save only one of them in mono, it is much lighter and the quality is just fine. Also, try to cut out as much silence as you can, it saves a lot of space. Halibutt 12:48, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

It's great! I thought I might critisize it, but alas! there's nothing to critisize for me :) As to other tips - apparently your microphone is much better than mine. In most of my voice samples I have to do quite some work to de-noise the background (Audacity is good at it, BTW). Halibutt 12:10, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Your recent contribution(s) to the Wikipedia article Krzysztof Zygmunt Pac are very much appreciated. However, you did not provide references or sources for your information. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and as you might be aware there is currently a drive to improve the quality of Wikipedia by encouraging editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. If sources are left unreferenced, it may count as original research, which is not allowed. Can you provide in the article specific references to any books, articles, websites or other reliable sources that will allow people to verify the content in the article? You can use a citation method listed at How to cite sources. Thanks! mikka (t) 21:15, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Howcheng's RfA

[edit] Spinmaster plantpot AFD

Hi, I was reminded by User:Search4Lancer that you recently tried to close the Spinmaster plantpot article. I deeply appreciate your help, but there's some times when an AFD closure is best left to an admin. Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Non-Administrators_closing_discussions is a great place to read about it. I've went ahead and finished it. Good luck on your quest for Adminship. If you have any questions, please ask. --LBMixPro^{<Speak|on|it!>} 09:45, 29 December 2005 (UTC)