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[edit] Lalit Shastri or Larry Samuel?

Dear Mr."Shastri" Thankyou for your anti-bhraminical outbursts. But let me point out isn't Shastri a Brahmin surname? This tells me that Lalit Shahstri is a pseudonym and your taking of Vatican report as the gospel of truth suggests that you are a Christian and most probably South Indian. So next time show a bit more intelligence and adopt a non-Brahmin surname.

P.S I'm a kshatriya

[edit] reminding us if your caste you have shown your bigoted ignorance

RE: Your above posting and all my previous postings.

Lalit Shastri does not claim anything about himself but that he is a patriotic Indian. But your posting was intresting as it reveled so much about you. What has Caste got to do with it??? and you pointing out that you are a Kshatriya, who gives a damm what you are. This caste business has brought the country down. It Comes from, as Lalit Shastri says, from the backsides of Lota shitters on the Railway tracks, who we so often see early mornings from windows of trains. By describing yourself as Kshatriya you mean to project yourself of a higer caste and therefore superior. But you are an obese backside Railway track Lotta plonker, Thats your Caste - as far as many of us enlightened are concerned. Next time don't remind me if your 'High' caste

Lalit Shastri

I just pointed out my caste SO THAT U DO NOT DISMISS ME AS A BRAHMIN FANATIC OR CASTEISM APOLOGIST. Moreover i am NOT A HINDU BUT A NASTIK (ATHEIST) hence assuming meanings from smallest of comments show YOUR BIGOTED VIEW OF CASTE SYSTEM. Heck i take no pride in my caste. But u need to understand to totally reform Hindu society it is important SC/ST's need to forget and forgive historical misdeeds and give up Mayawati's "DALIT KI BETI" populism.

[edit] Where Lalit Shastri got his article - possible copyright infringement

In case you wanted to know -- a very quick Google search on the edits made by Lalit Shastri shows that his edits are largely derived from a certain article which appears at least here here and here. First and most important of all, this is copyright infringement. Secondly, these websites appear to be some sort of religious institutions (christian missonaries, I think) and the author (who is, apparently, not Lalit Shastri) appears to be part of some such organisation and the article appears to be geared for such readers, so the article is not completely Neutral POV.

[edit] Only a Butthead would accuse Lalit Shastri of Copyright Infringement

Mr Shastri never infringes copyright - He always attributes his sources and unlike some here (from the RSS) does not write fiction. Since Mr Shastri is not a fiction write he quotes from reserch done by leading historians on the RSS.

So what happened to Mr Shastri's articles??? - They of course have been removed by the distorters of history the RSS cadre who frequent this site Its so easy to press the revert button, and the little brained monkeys from the RSS army are good at this.

Lalit Shastri has written many articles on the truth about this neo facist organ the RSS and the communal hatred , bigotory and ignorance it uses, to shit on modern and secular India keeping it backward and in the dark ages.

All Lalit Shastri's edits and articles have been deleted from wikipedia by footmen or shall we call them hunuman monkeys of the RSS who wish to push their version of hisory down our throats. These are the Brahmin Railway track shitters (so vividly described by Mr Shastri) taking instructions from Nagpur the RSS Supreme HQ We all know the RSS leadership cannot tolerate any kind of free thinking.

So for these half educated dumbwits we again present a list of sources that Mr Lalit Shastri consulted when he wrote the article on the RSS that so enraged the hanuman monkey bajrang army - He also quoted from court records from the Mohan Das Ghandi Murder - Quotes from Nehru warning us about the RSS and much more.

[edit] So that there is no more of this MONKEY BUSINESS a list of sources MR Shastri used

In his article (now missing deleted) Mr Shastri aknowledges his sources. We present these here again

Amaladoss, M., 2000, “Religious Identity and Mobility” Vidyajyothi, 64, 660-74. Anandhi, S. 1995, Contending Identities: Dalits and Secular Politics in Modern Slums, New Delhi: ISI. Arokiasamy, S., 2001, “Editorial,” Vidyajyothi, 65, 1-6. CCBI Consultation, 2000, “A Dialogue of Cultures – Cultural Issues in Mission” Institute of Indian Culture, March 7-9, in Ishvani Documentation and Mission Digest, Vol.18, no.1, 120-27. Chitkara, M.G. 1997, Hindutva, New Delhi: APH. “The Challenge of Hindutva: An Indian Christian Response,” 26-30 April, 2000, Vidyajyothi, 65 (2001) 131-43. Jafferlot, Christopher, 1996, The Hindu Nationalist Movement and Indian Politics, New Delhi: Viking. Lakra, John, 1999, “Are Tribals Hindus?” Sevartham, 24, 5-18. . Lobo, Lancy, 2000, Louis, P., 2000, The Emerging Hindutva Force: The Ascent of Hindu Nationalism, New Delhi, ISI. Louis, Prakash, 2000a, Malkani, K.R., 1980, The RSS Story, New Delhi: Impex India. Maliekal, Jose, D., 2001, Michael, S,M., ed., 1999, Dalits in Modern India: Vision and Values, New Delhi, Vistaar Publications. Michael, S.M. and others, 2000, Culture and Nationalism: Clarifying the Cultural Reality of India, Mumbai: IIC. Michael, S.M., 2001, “Dialogue of Cultures: Hindutva & Dalit Perception of Christian Mission, Vidyajyoti, 65, 14-26. Pandya, Anand, n.d., Hypocrisy of Secularism: Injustice to Hindus, Karnavati, VHP Prakashan. Patel, Arjun, 1999, “Hinduisation of Adivasis: A Case Study from South Gujarat” in Dalits in Modern India: Vision and Values, S.M. Michael, ed., New Delhi, Vistaar Publications, , 186-212. Pinto, Stanly, 1995, “Communalisation of Tribals in South Gujarat,” Economic and Political Weekly, 30 (39), 2816-19. Ram, P.R., n.d., “Hindutva Offensive: social Roots and Characterisation,” in Secular Challenge to Communal Politics, ed., Mumbai, Vikas Adhyayan Kendra, 90-117. Rawat, V.B. 2000, “Rise of Dalit Assertion and Brahminical Hate Campaign,” Indian Currents, 20 February, , 22-27. Rayan, Samuel, 2001, “A Vision of Mission for the New Millennium: Dalit Perspective” in A Vision of Mission for the New Millennium, Thomas Malipurathu and L.Stanislaus, ed., Mumbai: St.Pauls, 115-22. Sarkar, Tanika, n.d., “Heroic Women, Mother Goddesses: Family and Organization in Hindutva Politics” in Secular Challenge to Communal Politics, P.R. Ram, ed., Mumbai, Vikas Adhyayan Kendra, 172-203. Tirkey, Agapit, 2001, Valiamangalam, J., 2000, Gujarat: The Hindutva Laboratary and the Christian Response, Paper presented at FOIM meeting, 14-17 December, Mumbai. Wilfred, Felix, 2000,

Lalit Shastri

[edit] Very good information

It was really good to read this article on Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh on your website. This article gives very good insight about the work and the ideology of the largest voluntary organization of the world. Please keep up the great work.

Sweetu

[edit] RSS and hindu supremism compared to monotheistic supremism

I have been reasearching the Hindutva / RSS for a while now.

I find articles with things like the BJP party leader wistfully asking the pope to 'declare all religions equal'. From things like this I gather that most hindus are universalists.

Is the RSS regarded as far right just because they are non-universalist hindus i.e. hindu ideoogical supremists ?

Compared to most Christian / Islamic theologists the RSS aren't really 'religious' extremists, it's just that the hindu norm is more oriented towards religious universalism.

Response: I have known RSS very closely, for over 40 years. They are not extremists in the normal sense of the word. In my opinion, RSS exists because Hinduism is not an organized religion but Hindus are still identified as HIndus and have been persecuted for centuries because they are Hindus. There is no platform to talk about common interests of Hindus, there is no organization, institution or government that works towards common Hindu interests. And there are interests to protect, what with forced conversions, conversions based on money and fraud, riots and partitions, ethnic cleansings in Pakistan, Kashmir etc.

[edit] Babri mosque missing

In the fist paragraph it just says 'after the 1992 demolition'. When I went to edit it someone has tried to link it but it is not happening. Don't really edit much so am foolishly ignorant of how to fix this!

Would someone mind amending this?

Thank you

[edit] Minor change in the tenures of RSS chiefs

K.S.Sudarshan took over as RSS chief in the year 2000 and not 1998, as mentioned earlier in this article.More information about this can be found on http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/mar/10rss2.htm . So I have changed the entry.

[edit] Anon edits

RSS's biggest online discussion group: -

http://www.o_r_k_u_t.com/Community.aspx?cmm=2623078

It is at present having around 8500+ members. There are also many yahoo groups on RSS but biggest in them is just 1400 members strong.

http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=145&page=30 RSS joins relief operation in flood-hit Surat

http://news.oneindia.in/2006/06/25/jk-rss-adopts-militancy-hit-muslim-children.html RSS adopts around 100 militancy-affected children of J&K

RSS members assisting in relief work in flood-affected areas [Courtesy - CNN-IBN]

Nagpur, Aug 10 : Lokkalyan Samiti, an outfit within RSS, has extended help to the flood affected people of Vidarbha region by providing medicines, meals and essential commodities, according to samiti vice-president Vilas Phadanvis.

"About 200 RSS volunteers are assisting in arranging meals, distributing medicines and collecting utensils for the affected-people in worst-hit Yavatmal and Chandrapur districts", Phadanvis told reporters here today.

RSS activists are enaged in relief work in Umarkhed, Kelapur, Babhulgaon, Ralegaon, Darwah taluka along with Patan and Bori areas and have provided cooked food, linen and medicines, he said.

To collect essential commodities and utensils, RSS activists, along with students and teachers, would take out rallies at other places, Phadanvis stated.

Samiti has appealed to citizens to donate plastic mats, buckets, kitchen utensils and cash to meet the requirements. Samiti was working with local units of BJP, VHP, Bajrang Dal and other Sangh Parivar members for collecting and distributing relief material in Vidarbha region, Phadanvis said.

Some video collections, from RSS Swyamsevaks

on Sri Madhavrao Sadashivrao Golwalkar alias Guruji

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-733685232730989997&q=rss

on Lakshmi Bai Kelkar aka 'Mausi Ji' - Founder of Women's wing of Sangh

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5631255398904393522&q=rss

on Trailer on "Sangh"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4931461361225442948&q=rss

on Desh Hame Detha Hai

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=381046271740440543&q=rss+-feed

on Vedic Science

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8572690367218250933&q=rss+-feed

Regards, Vikas

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Please add these above informations in the main article. Regards Vikas

[edit] Reference About Khushwant Singh

There is reference in this article which mentions a book by Khushwant Singh. The title is "Congress (I) is the Most Communal Party". I could not find any reference to such a book in Google search. Please mention more verifiable resources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skbhat (talk • contribs) 10:58, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

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