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[edit] Things to do on Wikipedia

Editing tutorial, learn to have fun with Wikipedia. Picture tutorial, instructions on uploading images. How to write a great article, to make it an featured article status. Manual of Style,how articles should be written.

Here are some open tasks that you may want to help out :

RC Patrol - Keeping a lookout for vandalism. Cleanup - Help make unreadable articles readable. Requests - Wanted on WP, but hasn't been created. Merge -Combining duplicate articles into one. Wikiprojects - So many to join, so many to choose from...Take your pick!

If you have any questions or doubts, don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Once again, welcome! =)

- Mailer Diablo 14:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Help in Dome of the Rock article and al-Aqsa Mosque article

Dear Ramallite, I need someone who understands Arabic and English. Please have a look at Dome of the Rock and al-Aqsa Mosque disputes. Almaqdisi 06:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Navigation box for Palestine related things

• Have created a template for Palestinian related stuff Template:Palestine. Hopefully it will connect a lot of the articles out there and make it easier to navigate. Please help! See talk page Template_talk:Palestine Pockets23 15:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lynching in Ramalla

Regarding the lynching and the article by Gideon Levy... Btw, next time your people decide to butcher someone, can you consider him instead ? I'll appreciate if you pass the message to your local hamas representative, I can make a list. Cheers. Amoruso 09:41, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dome of the Rock

Amuroso and others like to use uncredible citations to spam the Dome of the Rock article. First they insisted that the Dome is not "Masjid Qubbat As-sakhra". That is it is not a masjid. Sencond that it is a shrine built most likely by Jews and for Jews and that Jews were praying their along with muslims etc blah blah..... Of course, I improved the article by bringing the relevant story of the construction from the preserved historical sources by muslim scholars and others. See for example this article which is commonly used and information from is commonly utilized to spam both al-Masjid al-Aqsa and Masjid Qubbat As-sakhra articles [1]. The discussions are long as you may see at the corresponding talk pages. Citing uncredible and unusual claims does not nmake sense and should not be given equal wait. Plus the Dome is a masjid as it is known and not a Shrine, or Maqam or Mashhad as they like to call it! Thanks. Almaqdisi 15:54, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

These are personal attacks ("spamming articles...") Almaqdisi that aren't allowed on wikipedia. Refrain please from making BS claims. Amoruso 01:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree with Almaqdisi, a lot of credible evidence show that the Dome of Rock is intact the place where a masjid not a shrine was built.Palestine48 02:36, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unspecified source for Image:ManarahSmall.jpg

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[edit] Muchas gracias

Hey Ramallite, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent RfA. It succeeded, and I am very grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, —Khoikhoi 05:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Har Homa

I find the idea that "'widely considered' alone should merit this category" to be very interesting since similar logic isn't employed with regards to other categorisations like Category:Terrorists or Category:Terrorism. It seems that if anything short of acknowledgement (which exists regarding Israeli areas in the West Bank outside unilaterally expanded Jerusalem) isn't enough to categorise a group like Hamas as "terrorist," then it is only fair that an area whose status as a "settlement" is disputed not be categorised as such. Let me know what you think, Tewfik^Talk 06:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad to help you fullfil your mission, and I trust that I'll be able to be of assistance more often.

The "fringe minority" that you've discounted includes at minimum the Israeli government, the municipality of Jerusalem, and in my experience, most residents of such places, who have little or no cognisance of the political controversy, especially since it is treated the same as every other part of Jerusalem. Thus, the status of newly constructed neighbourhoods in the parts of Jerusalem annexed since 1967 are not universally recognised as "settlements," and as such should not be categorised as such. This is actually very similar to the practice regarding Category:Terrorists. Hamas is categorised as Category:Designated terrorist organizations because it is, and despite that it still isn't included in any of the categories that I mentioned above, because they are disputed (notably by Hamas). As an aside, I'm surprised that you think you cannot approach or live in areas like Har Homa due to your religion or ethnicity, as I recall you making a post on Talk:Har Homa discussing the trend of Palestinians with Jerusalem residency actually moving into places like this. I'm going to remove the categorisation for the reasons above, but I'm still open to any feedback you may have. Cheers, Tewfik^Talk 19:43, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I just saw your reply on my Talk, and I've responded to you and Palmiro on Talk:Har Homa. On a personal note, this has absolutely nothing to do with minimising the difficulties faced by many Palestinians or denying their humanity. Whatever you may think, I am absolutely committed to NPOV, as I recognise now more than ever the subjectivity inherent in all of us. Ultimately we will end up with a fair and just representation if and only if we are faithful to the WP policies. And despite what you may think, I assure you that I am very much able to relate to the "Palestinian experience." All the best, Tewfik^Talk 05:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Temple

Hey Ramallite. I was talking about Temple in Jerusalem. The Solomon's Temple... functioned as a religious focal point for worship and the sacrifices known as the korbanot in ancient Judaism. Completed in the 10th century BCE... etc. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 03:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Take it easy, friend. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 04:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Third holiest site in Islam AfD debate

I've nominated this article for deletion Third_holiest_site_in_Islam, and would appreciate your comments on the matter.--Amerique 04:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

==Talk:Third holiest site in Islam==

Could you put your comments on the new lead on this page? I wrote it to respond to some of the more major complaints about the page.Elizmr 13:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Allegations of Israeli apartheid

Hello, please keep an eye on this talk as User:SlimVirgin is attempting to skew the article. Thanks Arniep 14:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Upcoming template changes

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[edit] Portal Palestine on wp:fr

Hello Ramallite.
We have already crossed each other some times when I contributed here on the wp:en. Now I only contribute on the wp:fr because I feel there are less controverses around the palestinian israeli conflit. fr:guerre civile en Palestine de 1947-1948 will soon become featured article with positive comments from both israelis, jewish, arabs and external editors. fr:protagonistes de la guerre de Palestine de 1948 is already one.
We are going to deal with fr:exode palestinien and we parellely develop the {{fr:portail Palestine}}... We would be very grateful to you if you could find some palestinian citizen fluent in French who could come and try with us to bring the Palestinian point of view in some/all of there articles and to develop the portal. I think this lacks very very much to the project on the French side.
Thank you for your help. Best Regards fr:user:ceedjee

[edit] police/universities

A long time ago, you dismissed the notion of the universities built for Palestinians as well as the training of police. After some later research, here is what I found slightly more in depth: After Oslo, only the Israeli military and new PA police police are the only armed forces allowed to operate in the west bank and gaza. And yes then after oslo, Israel for a time did help train police. Another source says it was 7 universities that had been three-teacher training institutions before were sponsored in part by the Israeli government and Jewish donors. If you choose not to believe it, its fine, you are within your rights. --Shamir1 19:30, 11 November 2006 (UTC) PS, have you seen the documentary Promises?

[edit] What?

I don't know why you always think im attacking you. Why do u accuse me of "painting you as an intolerant revisionist"? I wasnt. After I read that info, i thought i might share it with you, nothing i said was offensive. When I said, you dismissed it, it was because (at least i thought) you did, which again, is okay. And there is no need for the sarcasm when I say you are within your rights to such thoughts (When working towards a peace settlement, planning a massive wave of violence would probably not be in someone's favor in terms of the consequences on rights). Unfortunately, it is not so much that your rights may be limited as a Palestinian, but moreover as an Arab. Such restrictions exist in absolutely every single Arab country; and i dont even have to tell you which arabs in the middle east and n. africa have by far the most rights.

To remind you again, i wasnt intending to engage in much of a political discussion when i contacted you last. It was surprising for me when i saw your answer criticizing me. If you wish, i am willing to at least be on good terms with you. I dont want to be painted as an intolerant revisionist either. We don't know each other, and at least on my part i can say i dont hate you. If you want to know anything about me (political, individual, whatever), i dont mind and i hope you dont either. Peace. --Shamir1 21:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Informal RfC on Talk:Palestinian refugee

Hi, Ramallite.Jayjg suggested you might be someone to approach to try to achieve some reason and balance in this thread at Talk:Palestinian refugee.If you had the time to review my comments and respond -- or just offer your opinion on any other aspect of the issue -- I'm sure the addition of reasoned commentary would be valuable both for its content and for it encouragement of other editors to follow suit.Parallel reversion wars are also taking place at Palestinian exodus and United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East.I hope patient argument will defuse them, and I hope you will find it possible to participate.--Rrburke 14:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Here's an easy one

Do you have any opinion on this: Talk:Yaser_Arafat#Yasser.2C_Yaser.2C_Yassir.2C_Yasir.3F?Someone recently moved Yasser Arafat to Yaser Arafat, it would be helpful to get your multilingual perspective. --MPerel ^{( talk | contrib)} 01:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Would you mind checking out the discussion here? Thanks, Khoikhoi 04:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Bassam Shakaa

Hello Ramallite,

I didn't see the reference in front of my eyes, and actually spent a bit of time unsuccessfully searching for one, which is why I made the mistake about the injury. However I still believe that there is too much space dedicated to the passage when a brief summary would suffice (more than that in the Bassam Shakaa article, though it is admittedly too short an article) in what is after all an article about a city. Let me know, Tewfik^Talk 04:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Your version works for me

. I hope the next 365 days are quiet [and free of checkpoints and other hassles]. Tewfik^Talk 19:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are you OK ?

Hope all is well with you and your loved ones. What a fucked up situation. I feel bad. I am sure you feel this way when there is a pigua. In my eyes there is no diffrence if it takes place in Ramalla or Tel-Aviv. Best, Zeq 19:41, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An Arabic question

Hi, Ramallite, as an Arabic speaker, I was wondering if you could help me with this. In the article about Fahd of Saudi Arabia, his name was written ending with "al-Saud". It was my understanding that the "al" there was not the definite article, but rather the word meaning "house of", and thus his name should have been written ending with "Al Saud". I changed it, and then I realized that: (a) Wikipedia is full of "al-Saud" occurrences, and (b) I don't really know Arabic. Would you happen to know the correct transliteration? Cheers. --Doron 23:26, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, yes, I know the Arabic script and speak a little Arabic, and the difference in the alif was what cought my eye in the first place, it was the transliteration that I wasn't sure about. From your reply I understand that I can go on and change all occurrences in Wikipedia, right?--Doron 08:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good question

I'm not sure what the best approach is. I'm am the moment trying to work out how best to deal with some particularly bad POV editing and original research on Arab citizens of Israel (a persistently problem-prone article), and find myself equally at a loss.The easiest option is to leave them to it, not sure whether that is the best option or not (I mean, obviously it is for you and me, but should we take a more altruistic perspective, and is there any point?).

Specifically with regard to that material in the Bethlehem article, I think one consideration is whether the particular topic is being given undue weight in the article. Arguably it is. One problem with taking it out is that you would be criticised for "removing sourced material", a criticism which appears to be untrumpable however biased the material (or even within certain bounds the sources) are. Palmiro | Talk 19:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Maybe the only way is to create a subcategory named Israeli settlements (disputed)? Palmiro | Talk 19:32, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

The unwillingness of some editors to accept any compromise in the direction of reality or objectivity on the categorization of the East Jerusalem settlements really is quite exasperating.

I agree with you about the Sunni-Shia thing, I see that Hamas is now a Sunni Islamist organization again. But how come the Arab citizens of Israel are Sunni Muslims but Nothing Christians? Where, if not here, will the Rum Kathulik get a look in? As it happens, in a novel I am reading at the moment, set in West Beirut during the Lebanon war, there has just been an argument between a Syrian Orthodox watchmender and a Greek Orthodox Protestant priest as to whether the Surian or the Rum Orthodox were more Arab... Palmiro | Talk 20:19, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

You might like to keep an eye on Palestinian people as well, I just found some rather odd material there. Palmiro | Talk 15:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

I read your bio and laughed, thanks :) - Francis Tyers · 18:25, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] glad

glad you are fine. Pertz is just a stupid politian who jumped too high - has nothing to do from where he come from. I liked him for years. I dislike him now. an idiot like many other. I am sure you have similar people on your side. best,

Zeq 18:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bethlehem

Dear Ramallite,

Thanks, I will check it out.

Almaqdisi ^{talk to me} 03:17, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Appropriate article for this?

Hi Ramallite.I just read this news story Palestinians beaten at Guilford College (Associated Press).I was wondering what is the appropriate Wikipedia article to discuss Palestinian or Arab American directed hate crimes?If you respond on this page, I'll come back and read it.Cheers.--70.48.241.47 02:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps here. Ramallite ^(talk) 14:28, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] jenin massacre that never was

there is absolutely no reasoning behind removing the precursors to the chomat magen jenin operation and i consider your last action on that article to be vandalism pure and simple. Jaakobou 07:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Please do not delete content from articles on Wikipedia, as you did to jenin massacre.If you continue to do so, it may be considered vandalism.If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.

• There is absolutely no reasoning behind removing the precursors to the chomat magen jenin operation from the intro to the jenin battle. Jaakobou 08:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Curious

Hello Ramallite,

There is no expedition to eliminate anything, but rather an attempt to organise the category. Most of the articles are already included in a lower level category, and some of them aren't but should be. Cheers, Tewfik^Talk 23:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Palestinian nationalism

Hi Ramallite

Do you think this is an appropriate categorization? It strikes me as rather odd. Palmiro | Talk 19:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jaakobou == MouseWarrior?

Do these two editors share an IP? Abu ali 15:54, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Biden

I was already briefing it up and tried to preview the page but I lost the server, then reloaded, then saw your comment and here we are. So now again, I'm on it. Thanks. --Shamir1 04:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

What I got duped into believing? Then it might b a good idea to tell the producers 60 Minutes who included it in an episode. Was this the first time you heard of it? I remember mainstream news here showing that clip on television, and a while ago a girlfriend of mine from France recalled the incident, so it was reported in Europe as well. And by the way, I am still thinking and editing back and forth on the Biden section. --Shamir1 06:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it was because Tewfik's assessment seemed very slightly incorrect and missed the bulk of the statement. It was hard to do since every paragraph made a hard point. Perhaps it was not reported where you are, but I know certainly here it was reported on television, and most Americans got a kick out of it. Perhaps because the drone is photographing from a bird's eye view, it may look like teens to you. I really do not understand the other possibilities you are talking about.

Also, the CNN source you added does not confirm the claim, and it is also before any actual investigation. If you actually look at each report, the Biden part (which is the only statement from a United States representative and only one that counters the UN team) is hardly longer than the rest. --Shamir1 00:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I added the thing to the camp because it is unsupported. I even had it translated to English and did not find those words anywhere. That is why we need a better citation, not because I "think every Palestinian source is crap." You gave the official camp site, yes, but where are those words? --Shamir1 00:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

The main problem with the CNN source was not the "initial" part, it was the fact that it does not even mention a massacre. "Don't you get that?" Secondly, if you have a problem with the CNN report, tell it to them. Three, Americans got a kick out of it becuase they were NOT dying, just pretending they were. I have no idea where you got the idea that they were getting a kick out of them dying. Who was dying there? (And again, it was shown in Europe too.) I had to shorten the statement because it was too heavy without any source. I was not assuming bad faith, and thank you for providing me with those. I will have them translated. --Shamir1 01:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

The CNN story reports the Palestinian claim which we already know is false. That's it. Nothing about fear or a massacre. I don't know why so many of the comments you say to may sound so appropriate when it comes to you, but hey, you've been here long enough to know that. --Shamir1 01:40, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

By that comment I meant to say that much of what you are saying to me can be said back to you. Like: Didn't you get that part? and You've been here long enough to know that. Oh and about the drone and the Homo sapiens thing, by bird's eye view I mean from above. That could be just one foot above. In this case it was probably very high above and probably alreadt zoomed. --Shamir1 18:46, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Hebron#Palestinian history category?

FYI. Psychomelodic User:Psychomelodic/me 20:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bethlehem article

Hey Ramallite. Sorry for the delay. I was tied up in real life editing work and then had to do so much catching up on articles I had left behind. There are some sources at the Palestinian Christian article that you might find useful. However, a lot of my work towards providing balance there has been undone, there are still a couple of articles that might be of help. Checking the history might help too. There was once a balanced version of that article. I will also do some searches later. Forgive me. Tiamut 19:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A small remark

التحية الطيبة. I read your userpage. I really like you sense of humor. drork 20:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inter-relation between other arabs and palestinian arabs..arab clans..

I'm trying to look into the relationship between arab clans and palestinian clans..is there an interrelated system of clans? How does the system of arab clans work? I couldn't find anything much on yahoo..searches on arab clans always come up with news about Iraq and stuff about gaining clan influence but nothing of the clans themselves..do you know any good webpages on this?Domsta333 07:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your revert

Instead of abusing the vandal-fighting tool to revert legitimate edits,[2] you should present your case on the talk page for inclusion of links like Religion, Druze, Sunni Muslim, Biodiversity in Israel, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip etc. into Template:Palestinians. In addition to the obvious problem that general links, like Religion, do not belong to specific templates, I'd say that the link on biodiversity seems rather demeaning, to say the least. Beit Or 10:02, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey, how's it going?

It's been a pretty tough week and I had wanted to ask you for advice or help many times, but I didn't want to put you in a difficult position (You a Palestinian. Me a Palestinian. The articles about Palestnians. POV accusations going back-and-forth. You know how it might go.) Anyway, things have calmed down now, though I don't feel 100% okay about it all. I just wanted to check in with you and see what happened with the Bethlehem article. Do you still need input there? Tiamut 16:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Ramallite, there is an attempt to post pictures of dubious political leaders in the place of the photo of Palestinian children. The talk is happening here: Template talk:Palestinian ethnicity. Could you please check this out? Tiamut 03:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Palestine

Hi, How about putting together a WP Palestine? I found that there was already a project page, but with nothing much on it. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Palestine Are you interested in bringing it to life? --Fjmustak 20:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where are you?

Marhaba Ramallite. Just wanted to leave you a note telling you that you are missed. I hope that everything is okay and that you're away enjoying a deluxe vacation - a much deserved break for all the hard work you have done. I had to take a month-long wikibreak myself recently. When you do come back, please drop me a line just to say hi. Shukran habibti. Tiamut 12:48, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Israeli-Palestinian conflict

Hello. There is a dispute going on regarding whether or not to call the issue of Israeli Settlements an 'obstacle' to peace or not. I would appreciate your input on this matter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Israeli-Palestinian_conflict#Proposal:_.22obstacle.22_.E2.86.92_.22factor.22 cheers Suicup 09:39, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Avi

I like your bio, especially the part about Avi. Nice you introduced him to us. Sounds like he was a real creative spirit. Today the comment below made me think of you and Avi. I didn't expect to find you again:

"In the Middle East, there is plenty of water possible for everyone. Again, is the archaic political structures which foster divisions to maintain power for elites, both in power and out (is the Isreali government any more or less of an affront to the average Palestinian thatn the corrupt PA? Is a Palestinian any better or worse off in an Israeli prison than a Fatah or Hams one?)."

May I borrow your bio? of course I link here, and of course I could only write: it seems to depend.But Ari's story feels like a much better reply. LeaNder 18:38, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[[hiiiiii---- really important]] iam really enjoyed your pag but i want to ask you few question so send me soon nahed87@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.178.224.164 (talk) 10:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You are missed

Hey Ramallite. It's been about a year since you stopped editing here. Seeing some of your comments around here and there in old talk sections I've been reviewing, it reminded me of how much I miss your humour and kindness and your intelligence and massive ability to make good edits.

Things have changed a lot over the last few months - at least I like to think so. People are learning how to be more civil and patient and since I'm pretty sure it was the incivility and inanity of some POV pushing editors here that drove you away, I just wanted to tell you that it might be safe to come out now. :) Everyone is making a more serious effort not to let that kind of stuff happen anymore. So please come back my friend, because there are a lot of great articles to work on improving and many more that still need to be written. With warm regards, Tiamut^talk 20:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)