Talk:Pseudocyesis
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[edit] Requested move
I would like to rename this page "False pregnancy". Pseudocyesis is the term used in humans and clinically it is rare and obscure. I believe it deserves space on the page (or maybe even a different page), but pseudopregnancy in domestic animals is far more common and universally important. Pseudopregnancy is seen in research and clinical veterinary medicine all the time. "False pregnancy" would cover both of these terms. Unless there is a Wikipedia policy that the articles must be anthropocentric (which there might be, I really don't know), there is seriously no reason for pseudocyesis to overshadow pseudopregnancy in this article.
As it stands, this article makes false pregnancy seem like a psychological problem, which is not always true in humans, and never true in animals. I especially feel that the "in popular culture" trivia section is inappropriate. This article needs to be completely remade from a scientific standpoint, leading with veterinary pseudopregnancy and ending with human pseudocyesis. If there are no objections to this, I will continue to edit the page from this angle and begin including references. I just don't want to spend time on it if someone is going to start reverting my edits. If there are no objections in a week I will begin editing it over time. Please also comment if you agree with this. Thanks Laplacian54 (talk) 15:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)Laplacian54
- I have begun to edit the page, just cleaning up what we have a little and consolidating some stuff. I am not an expert at editing Wikipedia articles for style, so someone feel free to make it better. However, please do not change the content unless you are an expert in this field or have conducted significant research prior to doing so. Laplacian54 (talk) 00:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)Laplacian54
[edit] false pseudocyesis (maybe)
I'm not sure if the paragraph about mice belongs. This article treats pseudocyesis as a natural condition or disorder, but the mice are heavily manipulated in a laboratory. Also, it's part of the artificial insemination process, intended to impregnate the mouse with a real embryo.
Clarification is welcome!
--Redshift9 14:09, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- Manipulation in a laboratory is part and parcel of creating an animal model of a disease. Basically, to study the disease you need a reliable way to induce the disease in some animal. The resultant model obviously can't mimic the natural condition exactly, and there in lies the limitations of animal research.74.79.178.182 07:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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- I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean, and I first I thought it just was off-topic, but then I realized that this posting is just from someone who significantly misunderstands pseudopregnancy in mice. The model induced in the laboratory is exactly the "natural condition" in mice. When a female is bred by an infertile male, she becomes pseudopregnancy whether she is wild or in the laboratory. The main use of pseudopregnancy in mice is not to study pseudocyesis in humans. It is used to study topics related to pregnancy and hormones.
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- Once in a GREAT while a woman will actually come in and claim she is 7 months pregnant, yet on ultrasound have nothing. We see it as just a bizarre phenomenon, and sometimes with true pseudocyesis a person will have pregnancy-type hormone levels, but a lot of the time it's just someone with mental problems. Seriously, pseudocyesis is interesting but not nearly as significant as pseudopregnancy in other animals. 69.137.21.174 (talk) 00:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)Laplacian54
I must strongly disagree, since I would argue that the number 1 reason people are reading this page is to learn about pseudopregnancy in mice.
--Laplacian54 11:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Other Names
I removed wind in the bowels from the list of terms for pseudocyesis. I think other more frequent editors of this article might be well served to remove many of the other names from the opening paragraph. I am sure that there are many, often slang, terms for false pregnancies. That doesn't mean that this article should open with a list of more than a dozen of them -- most of which are not commoly used. —mako๛ 15:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed. Done. 69.137.21.174 (talk) 00:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)Laplacian54
[edit] related article
Just wanted to make sure that editors of this article were aware of simulated pregnancy. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
