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The true name includes an apostrophe, thusly: The Players' Club.[[New_Interational_Encyclopedia] The redirect of February 1st, 2007 is an innacurate edit. Velocicaptor 01:48, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but the true name, as indicated by their website included as an external link, is "The Players", and not Players Club or Players' Club. Accordingly, the initial citation tag for the name is being eliminated. JohnClarknew 05:30, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

To update this page with the latest news, Marmelstein, is estimable, promotion of the club is not. To delete references to the published action taken by the attorney general regarding the Players because of its lack of governance prior to the election of Lynn Redgrave as president who contributed her time and money to straighten it out is considered to be POV. Indeed, a newly formed nominating committee managed to oust her. But the record as written and referenced belongs here.

These edits are being restored. Editing wars should be avoided. JohnClarknew 08:55, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Marmelstein has continued to make deletions and changes referred to above without improving the page. Marmelstein appears to have signed in to Wikipedia for the sole purpose of doing this (see his page.) He should refrain, and is invited to explain his reasons here. Page has again been reverted. JohnClarknew 00:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

There are numerous mistakes in this entry. The Gramercy Park mansion was not built in 1844 but 1847.

Under the "Reasons for Founding His Club" the writer states that "he (Booth), asked his friend across the square to remodel his home into an American actors' club." First of all, this building was never Booth's home. He didn't live there until it became a club. More importantly, it was never created as an actor's club. It was created so that actors could meet men of other professions: architects, writers, bankers, doctors, et. al. The purpose was to elevate the actor's place in society through this social intercourse. And the "friend across the square" who designed The Players was Stanford White. By failing to mention White's name, the sentence becomes even more confusing.

Under "Membership", the writer incorrectly states that the board of directors has a requirement that at least five of the nine directors must be actors, dramatists, or theatrical managers. Under the by-laws, it is eleven out of twenty-one and that obligation has always been met. Also, as far as one knows, no critic (referred to as "crickets" by Edwin Booth) was an original member of the Club, although many of them are now members. The writer then goes on to call the current popular young president Timothy Hutton a "film actor," rather than a stage actor who is also an Oscar-winning screen actor. Under "Club Activities," very little is mentioned of the Club's actual activities. Rather it focuses on its "ups and downs." He refers to the well-educated, successful members as needing to be "amused and occupied." And the beautiful Grill Room has never been called "the basement bar." It's simply incorrect to refer to it as that.

"Later Problems" then puts forth the writer's own take on a long ago situation (1994) in which he and his wife became members of the Club. (Lynn Redgrave was elected the first woman president, served for one year, and was then not re-nominated to the board. This was perfectly legal within the by-laws of the Club). Furthermore, despite accusations, it was never established that "proper books hadn't been kept," or that the "John Drew Fund...was empty..." or that "the upstairs library (was)a mess." While it is true that the John Drew fund had been incorrectly used by club members in the distant past (many of whom passed away years ago), it was established by the Attorney General that no current member abused the fund. The fund was eventually turned over to the Actors' Fund for management. Long after Lynn Redgrave ceased to be president, the Club continued to fully cooperate with the Attorney General's office. And with the legal expertise of journalist Sidney Zion and the negotiating skills of Tim Hutton and the Club's lawyers, The Players was able to close this sad chapter in its history. Why this chapter needs reopening at all, considering the Club's illustrious 120 year history, remains elusive.

The Players knows of no offer to purchase "Tudor Hall" for the intention of incorporating it into the Players. And lastly, but most importantly, The Players was NEVER, EVER in danger of being closed down.

It would be really worthwhile if the editors of this site could check out The Players own website, recognize these mistakes and delete them. Thank you!!

The writer of the above should reveal an identity if he or she wishes to carry on a discussion here. JohnClarknew 17:19, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

As previously mentioned, this current definition of The Players (not The Players Club) is filled with gross errors. Marmelstein

It appears that the changes made on July 27 were made by a new user by the name of John Martello who is the executive director of the club, and who is also using the name Marmelstein, and wrote the above, unsigned. Deleting the published facts of the attorney general's involvement is not an option. It is not the purpose of this site to promote the club. Changes are fine, but not the elimination of pertinent verifiable facts. This user who wrote the piece, a life member since 1986, has exercised discretion, and presented the story in a fair-minded and positive manner. It needs to stay as it was, with some updated information, such as a list and dates of the presidents since its founding. I shall work on it when I have some time. It would be helpful if other interested and objective members got involved. JohnClarknew 17:56, 15 August 2007 (UTC)