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Smaller with bigger letters!--Alexignatiou 21:55, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Where did 'Birds of a Feather' come from? Are there any sources validating this? RMS Oceanic 09:58, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Proposed Wall-E Deletion 2 new section 3 Section for Pixar People? 4 WALL-E 5 SProtect 6 Animators 7 Template Guidelines 8 List of notable Pixar staff 9 John Carter of Mars 10 Houston, we have a template problem... 11 TfD nomination of Template:Pixar films 12 Just a reminder, citations please 13 short films collection 14 name of template 15 1906

[edit] Proposed Wall-E Deletion

since nobody came forward with official information (and as WK is not a crystal ball per WP:NOT)...

An article that you have been involved in editing, Wall-E (film), has been listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wall-E (film). Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. SpikeJones 21:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] new section

should this template be exclusively for theatrically released Pixar films? Should the DVD-exclusive shorts (Mike's New Car, Mater and the Ghostlight, etc) be removed or seperated out into their own section? My opinion is they should be removed and this should be strictly theatrically released films. SpikeJones 00:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. I think it's handy to have all of Pixar's films summarized as it is. This said, I think the DVD exclusives could comprise a third part of this template. RMS Oceanic 08:45, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Section for Pixar People?

I see templates like those for Disney and Apple have a section highlighting relevant people to the respective companies. Would it be viable to do something similar for this template, adding John Lasseter, Ed Catmull, Brad Bird, Joe Ranft and so on? RMS Oceanic 00:31, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I can certainly see why individual pages for the principles makes sense, but not for the two most recently added items to the template, Peter Sohn and Joe Romano. I don't see where every single Pixar animator needs to have their own individual page (at this time, perhaps later) -- should they be on a single "Pixar Animators" page instead until there is enough info to break them out separately?SpikeJones 20:13, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Correct. I propose we restrict the list to the following people: John Lasseter, Joe Ranft, Brad Bird, Andrew Stanton, Pete Docter, Lee Unkrich, Steve Jobs and Ed Catmull. I'm not adverse to other employees getting their own page, but I don't think they should be on this template. RMS Oceanic 07:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

So aside from removing the animators from the template, what do you propose is a good idea for handling their individual pages currently?SpikeJones 13:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

How about making a list of animators and linking the list from the template under "people" or "see also"? --Butseriouslyfolks 17:35, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I oppose to the list of animators how about a list of notable Pixar employees. There are many animators (per film) so i dont see how tht is possible. The page could have directors, ceo types, animators, notable voice actors, storyboard articts, notable dead employees, short film directors, producers etc. Martini833 00:10, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WALL-E

I refer everybody to this page, in which Bob Iger himself confirms the existance of WALL-E. I feel this is strong enough to warrant WALL-E's conclusion in the Pixar template. RMS Oceanic 00:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SProtect

I've SProtected not SProtected this template for now because it has been a persistent vandalism target of late. --Butseriouslyfolks 23:47, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Animators

I deleted two people from the "people" section. they were two animators who voiced some characters from Pixar films but werent notable enough to be on the list. I did leave Glenn McQueen because he was a lead animator (but he is dead) so should he still be there? I also added Darla K anderson and grouped them in order of importance first John Lasseter the Ed Catmull then Steve Jobs then the directors in order of their films (pete docter m. i. andrew standon f. n. ...) and then co director lee unckrich and producer darla k anderson tehn jan pinkava then jonh ratzenberger and joe ranft then glenn mcqueen. Martini833 22:17, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template Guidelines

I have decided to step in and clean up the mess in the people section of the pixar template. I decided that animators storyboard artists voice actors etc. shouldnt be there but that they should be isted somwhere else (such as in Category:pixar). The only notable "people" should be john lasseter ed catmull steve jobs and directors and multiple time co directors of the FEATURE films and jhon ratzenberger (because he is named Pixars lucky charm). The producers were taken out because there were too many and glenn mcqueen and joe ranft are both dead so they shuld be added to another list. It was hard to take bud luckey out because he was a long time character designer but it would break the guidlines. Another guidline i would like to set is that someone in the list should have been working at Pixar for a good amount of time. Anyone want to oppose propose or agree? Martini833 20:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I propose the potentially unpopular stance of removing Ratz from the Pixar template as he is not a driving force in the creation of Pixar or the day-to-day operations of the Pixar corporate machine. He may have been called "Pixar's good luck charm", but his roles have been getting smaller and smaller with each subsequent feature. Also, keep in mind that using your logic, as soon as any of the listed people die, they will also need to be removed from the template. SpikeJones 20:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of notable Pixar staff

I oppose to the list of animators how about a list of notable Pixar employees. There are 700 animators (per film) so i dont see how tht is possible. The page could have directors, ceo types, animators, notable voice actors, storyboard articts, notable dead employees, short film directors, producers etc. Martini833 00:10, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Carter of Mars

• The linked WP article explicitly says that this is not a Pixar production. If it is, then fix that article (with proper WP-allowed citations) first before re-adding JCoM here. SpikeJones 01:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

agreed and still vaild jj 17:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Houston, we have a template problem...

Is it just me, or are the two separate Pixar templates that are fighting for recognition here? I have Template:Pixar Animation Studios on one side, with the associated Template talk:Pixar Animation Studios page. And then over here, I have Template:Pixar films and it's associated talk page being redirected over to Template talk:Pixar Animation Studios. Something tells me that somebody either duplicated effort, or somebody did the move incorrectly. Looks like we need to determine which is supposed to be which and eliminate one of them. Cross-posting this over on Talk:Pixar. SpikeJones 03:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Since nobody has commented here, then I propose deleting the Template:Pixar films page. Any objections? SpikeJones 02:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Delete Pixar Films because it has people and change the redirect thing when you try to edit because i want to edit some of the people who a long time ago we decided shouldnt be there. We had a criteria J. lasseter Jobs and catmull and the directors and thats it glenn mcqueen and joe ranft are dead so they aent notable as current people could someone fix that?? Martini833 18:53, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Pixar films

Template:Pixar films has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — SpikeJones 02:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Just a reminder, citations please

That ALL new Pixar films that people would like to have included in the template can only be included after a non-blog, reputable 3rd party WP-approved source has confirmed this information. See WP:NOT a crystal ball and WP:CITE for details on what constitutes valid WP sources. Until such references exist, films such as UP will be reverted from the template.SpikeJones 02:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] short films collection

does the short films collection need to be included, considering that the shorts are already listed above? SpikeJones (talk) 18:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] name of template

since 1906 is confirmed to be live action, we need to change the name of this template from "Pixar Animation Studios". Suggestion? SpikeJones (talk) 15:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1906

You said "1906 is a CO PRODUCTION only FUNDED by Pixar, so it's not Pixar canon, it is Warner Bros". We agree that 1906 is a co-production between Pixar and a different company. Toy Story was a co-production between Pixar and Disney, yet it is accepted as Pixar canon. You tell me what the difference is between the two. SpikeJones (talk) 03:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Toy Story is a different... story. 1) Disney owns Pixar and it's products (characters, films), Disney does not own WB 2) Toy Story is a Disney/Pixar film like ALL the others while 1906 is a Warner Bros. film co funded by Disney/Pixar as a whole. It fits under the cat. of BL of Star Command and TAoA&WB because it's not wholly owned or produced by Disney and/or Pixar. P.S. The article says the film will be out in the winter of 2009, i believe. 70.156.165.35 (talk) 06:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll address your points one by one. (a) Disney owns Pixar. They didn't when TS was created. TS was a co-production between the two companies, and it was possible that if Pixar was purchased by a different company that Disney could have lost the rights to use the TS characters in the parks. (b) 1906 is a Warner Bros. film co funded by Disney/Pixar. Yes, this is similar to the LION/WARDROBE films being a co-production with Walden Media yet still be refered to as Disney films. As for your PS, not one article has confirmed a definitive release date for the film. They may be aiming for a specific year of release, but until a date has been announced, it remains "TBA". SpikeJones (talk) 12:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Still we know Toy Story is canon, you can't argue with that, and the bottom line is it's a Disney/Pixar production, there's no if, ands, or buts anymore. I do realize Pixar was purchased in 2006, but that is almost the same because if you look on the DVDs they are all branded Disney... Pixar (in different ways but all retaining the same meaning). Now all of them are Disney/Pixar brand no matter what while 1906 isn't, and THAT is why. And I'll use your logic, we had release dates for TS3 before it was even announce so what makes 1906 different, wikipedians ought to know it'll most likely come out winter 09 as of now.70.156.165.35 (talk) 14:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Nobody is questioning TS as being canon or not. It was created as a Disney-Pixar production, and if Pixar started partnering with other companies, it would still be listed as a Disney-Pixar production under "Feature Films" in the template. All Pixar productions are branded Disney-Pixar per the purchase agreement, regardless of who is distributing the DVDs. 1906 is a Pixar-WB production (and therefore, a Disney-Pixar/WB production), making it no different than the way the original TS was handled, as mentioned above. And "ought to know it'll most likely..." is not enough proof to definitively provide a release date. Since you seem passionate about Pixar, please register an account name and join us in maintaining (with proper citations, of course) all the other Pixar articles as well. SpikeJones (talk) 16:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Alright so, I don't know why you don't understand the difference between Disney/Pixar and WB/Disney/Pixar, its IS different, WB doesn't own Pixar, that's the key factor, if you go to the DreamWorks Animation template, the Aardman features are listed separately for a good reason, they are not the norm, also the traditionally animated films are listed separately. The difference is clear, not accepting it is a different story. By the way, you do realize saying that "if Pixar started partnering with other companies, it would still be listed as a Disney-Pixar production" is complete speculation, this isn't about if, it's solid facts, and IF it did happen, they would most likely have a different category, as we see in the DreamWorks template. Also when you say that nothing has been solidly confirmed about the date, you do realize the release dates of Up and Toy Story 3 are both liquid as well so "what's the difference". About getting an account, I have one but am lazy so I hate logging in, and I AM passionate about Pixar. 70.156.165.35 (talk) 01:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

After thought, I propose we keep it in related works until we get an official announcement "straight from the source" about how the production will be divided and THEn make an official decision? Sound good? 70.156.165.35 (talk) 02:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

We can make it real easy and remove ALL references to 1906 from Pixar and this page until official announcements come out that say that Pixar is doing more than co-financing the film and providing computer graphic work, if that would make you happy. I'm all for it -- your job (after you create a username and proper login, please) will be to keep all the Pixar fanboys from continuing to add it back in. SpikeJones (talk) 03:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)