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Contents 1 The Picture 2 Stages 3 Move proposal 4 Lists of players 5 This article needs sources?! 6 "the player who passes the baseball"

[edit] The Picture

it says its brandan claussen but he's left handed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.137.192.113 (talk) 07:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stages

What are the different stages of the pitch called (like in the 4-part picture at the top of the article)? I know that the beginning is the wind-up, but are there other names for the other parts of the routine? --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 19:08, Nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

I don't know that there are specific names, but carrying on from your label for the first one ("the wind-up"), I might say that the next three stages could be referred to as "the delivery" (referring to the forward motion of the arm), "the release" (strictly speaking, when the ball leaves the hand), and "the follow-through" (the continuation after the ball is gone). HTH.

Rdikeman 18:32, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

As a pitcher myself, I can answer this:

1. Apex of leg-kick.

2. Landing position

3. Rotation/release

4. Follow-through

This is not the complete wind-up, there is also the ready position (before 1), the rocker-step (also before 1), and the stride (before 2).

I have actually been kicking around the idea of expanding this article to go into much more depth about the act of pitching itself. Does anyone else agree/disagree with this idea before I begin? -- Ubergenius 14:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Should we talk about the different styles of throwing the ball? This article seems to make no mention of the fact that different pitchers throw the ball differently than normal, like sidearm (Yankees' Mike Myers) and submarine (Mets' Chad Bradford) styles.

• There is already an article on the submarine throwing style, so I'll put a mention in the article. There's no article about the sidearm style so that should be mentioned in this article or have its own article. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 19:26, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move proposal

There are a huge number of articles linked to Pitcher, which is currently a disambiguation page; I couldn't find any linking to the page for the container, as they are virtually all for the baseball position. The number of articles linking to Pitching is much lower. I would propose shifting the article to Pitcher, with a note directing to the article for the container. I suppose making Pitcher into a redirect rather than a disambig would be another option, but I think it's less preferable. MisfitToys 22:46, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

• Support. violet/riga (t) 23:04, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 19:09, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lists of players

How is Chris Carpenter nothing special? Roy Oswalt has never won a Cy Young Award, C.C. has.

Just noticed the length of lists on this page -- do we want to consider making a List of baseball pitchers page for them? Ojw 22:45, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Shouldn't Tim Wakefield, as the most prominent Knuckleballer in MLB right now, be on this list? I only ask because it’s such a rare and specialized pitch. 206.57.3.174 15:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Why is Wang of the Yankees listed among notable pitchers? The rest of the pitchers listed are all-stars and players with long distinguished careers. I am going to remove him.

The tiny list of players there should not be there. It already is causing too many arguments...

Dwslassls

I have added Dave Stewart, who has four twenty-win seasons in an otherwise-mediocre career... but those four seasons are enough to establish him as a significant pitcher. I have added J.R, Richard, a certifiably great pitcher until a stroke cut one of the most promising careers short. He had a fastball that some compared to that of Bob Gibson. --Paul from Michigan 14:08, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Who is Spencer Hyde? I did a Google search, and the only athlete that I found was a fourteen-year-old kid of strictly local interest. I have deleted those references as vandalism.

Denny McLain

He may be a jailbird and a contemptible character, but he is the last pitcher to win 30 games in a season, and he had two twenties as well. I am not referring to prison sentences! --Paul from Michigan 14:12, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm removing Justin Verlander. He's a good pitcher but he's only in his second full year.

Updated the list. Took out: Chris Carpenter(His resume is nothing special), Mark Prior(If this list included every pitching prospect bust, it'd be 1000s of names long), Jake Peavy(65-46 all time? Meh). Added Mark Buehrle and Justin Verlander for recent no-hitters and other noteriety.

[edit] This article needs sources?!

Anyone who ever has watched at least three baseball games--on any level of play--cannot seriously question the accuracy of this article (which I have had no part in writing or editing). It's well-written, encyclopedic, and descriptive. Perhaps the "needs sources" tag was put up by someone whose favorite pitcher was left out of a list, or by someone who saw a disliked pitcher listed. Either way, it's inappropriate. At a certain level, all articles require some original writing, and this one is done well.

If you feel the tag is appropriate, please explain why, and please do so within a week. Otherwise, on 10/8, I'm going to try to remove the tag. Please note that I'm open-minded--if there's something I missed, I'm certainly willing to reconsider my position. But it's a well-written article that accurately describes its subject. GeeZee 00:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "the player who passes the baseball"

"Passes"? That implies that pitcher and batter are on the same team, like a pass between team members in football (soccer) or rugby. Wouldn't something like "throws" be better? – ukexpat (talk) 16:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC)