Talk:Parables for Wooden Ears

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Contents 1 WikiProject class rating 2 GA review 2.1 The criteria 2.2 The list 2.3 Discussion

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 16:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. — Dihydrogen Monoxide _(Review) 03:57, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

[edit] The criteria

This is the initial review.

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

[edit] The list

• Firstly, the first paragraph of the lead needs expanding, with at least another sentence. Maybe "It was the Xth release the band had produced" and/or "recorded in X Studio" (which would need to be added to the body if you were to mention it).
  • Y Done
• Numerous critics complained about its poor — "numerous" seems superflous here, and prime for a {{specify}} tag.
  • Y Done
• In a 1996 interview, lead singer Bernard Fanning described Parables for Wooden Ears as "big and presumptuous", and stated that it had "a pretty massive sort of sound" — reference quotes.
• The third and fourth sentences of the history section is better suited in the "Release and response" section, in my opinion.
  • Y Done
• I'd combine the last two paragraphs of the "History" section and stick it nearer to the top.
  • Y Done
• However, due to the "lack of an obvious single", the album would sell poorly, despite the effort put into production — "sold poorly" (past tense)?
  • Y Done
• The first paragraph of "Release and response" should probably be in the "History" section.
  • No, that's what the "release" part of the header refers too ;)
• The two mid-sentence references for John Encarnacao's comments aren't needed as they are at the end of the sentence as well, and the subject of the sentence doesn't change.
  • Y Done
• Is it possible to link to Juice and Sputnikmusic?
  • Juice (magazine) is German (not the one discussed here), Sputnikmusic has a deletion log
• noting "Bridle You" and "Father's Pyramid" as examples — "specific examples"?
  • Y Done
• The highlight, according to Bishop, was — "The highlight of the album for Bishop", to reduce run-on?
  • Y Done
• No music sample? This could be perfect in the "Release and response" section where individual songs are discussed (the riffs, etc.).
  • I've only heard one song on the album - "Tail" - and I only have that on the Dream Days DVD...I might go and rip some audio out of it, but the quality would suck and it would be "original".
    • Y Done. I finally got off my behind and made a sample ogg of it. --lincalinca 11:31, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Putting this on hold. Generally good work — contact me when you think it's ready again. Cheers, Daniel 05:15, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Done/Replied. — Dihydrogen Monoxide _(Review) 05:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Passed, well done. Daniel 02:21, 26 December 2007 (UTC)