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[edit] Newbridge station

I moved this back to Newbridge (Caerphilly) railway station. It doesn't matter in this case whether they're separate towns. Newbridge is located in Caerphilly (county borough). If, for example something is Blah, Durham, this does not necessarily mean that they are located in the city of Durham, more the County of Durham. Simply south (talk) 13:06, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps Newbridge (Caerphilly county borough) would be better. Caerphilly is still a separate town, and the unqualified use of the word means that, as it has for over 1000 years, not some transient local government area that has existed a mere 11 years. Owain (talk) 14:03, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hundreds, and edit summaries

I notice you have been changing a number of articles about historic units of local government to the present tense. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] This is unusual in that a variety of other editors have constructed similar articles on hundreds, often with a good selection of references, and used the past tense. I suggest you conform to this convention. Additionally, I would encourage you to edit summaries when editing. MRSCTalk 22:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

The past tense is not appropriate when referring to geographical areas. The distinction between an area and any extant local government for that area is quite clear. The metropolitan counties have no role in local government yet are universally referred to in Wikipedia in the present tense. Hundreds may have no role in local government either but clearly as a description for a defined geographical area, they still exist. Owain (talk) 12:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Instead of reverting this please be advised there is a discussion on this here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography#Articles_on_hundreds. There is no consensus for writing about historic units of local government in the present tense. MRSCTalk 04:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

I noticed that you seem to be of a similar opinion to me when it comes to the historic/traditional counties of England/Great Britain, and just wanted to make my presence known and say hello. I've been an editor of Wikipedia for a while now, but haven't given many major contributions, due to trying to finish off a PhD. If there's anything I can help with though, or any discussions to get involved with, particularly regarding the counties, I'd love to get involved. Cheers. --El Pollo Diablo (Talk) 11:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Greetings! There does seem to be this strange fact blindness on Wikipedia where despite verifiable evidence to the contrary, certain editors have a policy whereby the historic counties are deemed not to exist! Lancsalot entered into a debate at Talk:Historic counties of England whereby verifiable facts were presented, only to be continually rebutted with "we have a policy...". It seems a strange world where the truth is agreed at by consensus, especially where there isn't a consensus! Where certain editors do see fit to acknowledge the counties existence they have a habit of slipping in past tense references, despite the fact that they cannot actually come up with a point in time at which they became "in the past", so watch out for that! This encyclopædia is supposed to be based on verifiable facts, so don't let them push you around. Good luck! Owain (talk) 20:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Newport station

Before we get into an edit war, please check Talk:Newport railway station (South Wales)#Requested move to see why the current name. Simply south (talk) 13:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

The rationale for disambiguation in that way is deeply flawed. I can read pages of drivel debate if I like, but you are all voting on something you don't understand. You can't arrive at the truth through uninformed consensus. In any case I have solved the problem by using the official name. Problem solved! Owain (talk) 13:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Newport-Mon-Coat-of-Arms.png

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Newport-Mon-Coat-of-Arms.png. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Project FMF (talk) 22:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image source problem with Image:Newport-Mon-Coat-of-Arms.png

Image Copyright problem

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If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 16:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Geniac (talk) 16:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Infobox Scotland county

I note you have worked on this infbox template. The template appears to me to be almost designed to produce nonsensical results. See also Talk:County of Nairn. Laurel Bush (talk) 16:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC).

Hmm, I looked at the version before you removed it and it seems perfectly sensible to me. What is nonsensical about it? Owain (talk) 19:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Newport County crest.png

Thank you for uploading Image:Newport County crest.png. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image under "fair use" may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies for fair use. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a fair use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the fair use policy require both a copyright tag and a fair use rationale.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it might be deleted by adminstrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 16:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Newport YMCA crest.jpg

Thank you for uploading Image:Newport YMCA crest.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image under "fair use" may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies for fair use. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a fair use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the fair use policy require both a copyright tag and a fair use rationale.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it might be deleted by adminstrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 16:18, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of Wales dialling codes

How dare you make such a drastic edit. I haven't even finished working on the article yet so it would be full of errors. If you have a problem, you discuss it on the talk page or nominate it for deletion so other editiors can comment on it. Welshleprechaun (talk) 14:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The page is a duplicate of the List of United Kingdom dialling codes and would be merged back into the main page anyway. I am saving you the hassle of having to undo thousands of edits. Owain (talk) 14:58, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:ABC_Great_Britain_counties.gif

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[edit] Torfaen

The Etymology section of this article states that "The name Torfaen is corrupted Welsh for rock breaker and refers to the river that flows through the county borough from its source in Blaenavon. The river in question is now known as the Afon Llwyd".

  • Why it is saying "The river in question is now known as Afon Llwyd"? Why the use of "now"? Does this mean that the river was previously known by some other names? But the article Afon Llwyd does not suggest anything like that. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
The original change happened here. The text used to say The name 'Torfaen' is corrupted Welsh for 'rock breaker' and was the original name of the Afon Llwyd, the principle river that flows through the area., stating that the river was originally called "Torfaen". I agree that the current wording doesn't explain this very well. I shall amend it. Owain (talk) 11:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


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