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Contents

[edit] Portal subpages

Category:Portal-Class numismatic articles

[edit] Suggestions

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[edit] Peer review

Here are a few minor issues:

  1. There should be an archive of the "Selected article", "Selected picture", and other features. See Portal:Politics or other featured portals for examples.
  2. I have wikified "Hobo nickel". The name of the selected article, in bold, should always be linked to the article.
  3. Take the "thumb" parameter out of the Raider.jpg image in the selected article.

Also, how often do you plan to update the selected article, picture, etc? -Aude (talk contribs) 01:46, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

  1. Those pages are archived, if you'll look one headin above ^^^
  1. OK, link title name, got it.
  2. thumb...out
Thnx  :) Joe I 04:39, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stubs

Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2006/November Two new numismatic stubs have been proposed so far, at the previous WikiProject. Feel free to join the discussion. --JAYMEDINC 16:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Questions

Why do you include barter in the numismatic project since the word barter, in it's common sence, does not use any monetary system? It's place should be in the economics, but not in monetary questions.—Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Olivierchaussavoine (talk • contribs)

Main article: Barter
Main article: Local currency
"In economics, a local currency, in its common usage, is a currency not backed by a national government (and not necessarily legal tender), and intended to trade only in a small area. These currencies are also referred to as community currency. They encompass a wide range of forms, both physically and financially, and often are associated with a particular economic discourse."
Numismatics encompusing Exonumia, Notaphily, Scripophily, as well is broad and more than just "legal tender". Tokens and such. As which can be catagorized as private, local or such currency, which ... Joe I 18:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


Numismatics cannot cover all the semantic field of this encyclopedia!

and old words should be considered before new ones.

The question was about barter which should be distinguished from local currencies. If you consider the definition given by the 1099B instruction of www.irs.gov, you cannot deny barter is a trade without any monetary means. From this verifiable source, including barter in numismatics should be considered as corrupting the quality of this wikiproject.

Olivierchaussavoine 08:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Link to "1099B instruction of www.irs.gov" needed. Joe I 08:27, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

In finance, the word "barter" is used when two corporations trade with each other using non-money financial assets (such as U.S. Treasury bills).

If the trade wa transacted with U.S. Treasury bills, those are "monetary" items, studied under Scripophily, I believe.

Joe I 09:08, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

the reference is [1099B].
The phrase from barter explicitly asserts that the meaning decribed is related to the specific context of finance. By including barter in numismatics, you reduce it's meaning to this context.

Scripophily is the study and collection of stocks and Bonds.

The word "scripophily" was coined by combining words from English and Greek. The word "scrip" represents an ownership right and the word "philos" means to love.

The common sense of collection is rather opposed to exchange. Words cannot be collected, as numismatics>scripophily does with bounds or stocks, except in an world wide encyclopedia.
I beleive words are not "monetary" items, and that noboby is the owner of this encyclopedia.

I have a very simple question addressed to Searchme (joe I). Can you give the reference of the article that includes barter in numismatics? Olivierchaussavoine 15:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I will continue this discussion with you on a chapter I opened [Inclusion of barter in numismatics] on the discussion page of the article barter, since it's subject is barter and not numismatics. Olivierchaussavoine 07:13, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Made change to Numismatics. Joe I 08:40, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Content skewness

I feel that the portal tends to concentrate on coins and North American and European stuff. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 14:05, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

ok fair enough, yeah, I would like to feature asian, s. american and other articles and coins, find out the articles arn't good enough, no pics, no good pics, no info. and North American and European, is mainly what I know, and what I see. Find me something to show. Either artlicle, issure or picture, I don't care. Show me wiki has more than North American and European stuff. I would like to look at it before it gets put ont the page tho, just to be sure. But I will take any and all suggestions.  :) Joe I 14:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Banknotes

I'm afraid that this portal is not taking banknotes collection too serious, remember that numismatics is not only related with coins and medals, and collecting banknotes has become a very popular branch of numismatics in the late years, and I also believe that banknotes are more suitable for educational purposes than coins because they are graphicaly more expresives and they're more easy to acquire via postal mail swap. KatKiller 21:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I concur. I've been trying to add banknote images to the "selected picture" section. Perhaps you can do the same for other parts? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 21:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I've been thinking about changing the selected issue to commemorative coins, maybe I could add a banknote box with that. Joe I 03:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Started. Please see Portal:Numismatics/Banknotes before I implement. Joe I 03:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Euro commemorative coins articles

Hi,

I am not sure if this can be included here. Can some please take a look at Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Austria) as a sample and see if this article can be included in this portal? There is a group of wikipedians working in a series of similar countries and they might be worth to mention somewhere here.

Thanks, Miguel.mateo (talk) 03:21, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


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