Talk:Nova Scotia Duck-Tolling Retriever
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As requested on WP:RP, I've replaced the earlier face-only photo with Image:IggyTheToller01.jpg. —Ilmari Karonen 05:29:33, 2005-08-30 (UTC)
[edit] Tollers aren't the only Canadian breed
I have removed the statement that "Tollers are usually noted for being the only breed originating from Canada" as the Qimmiq and the Tahltan Bear Dog have a good (if not a better) claim to Canadian origin. --Pharaoh Hound (talk) 12:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
- And perhaps the Newfoundland and Labrador? CMacMillan 00:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- Depends on whom you ask. Most people (myself included) say that the Newf is definitely Canadian, however the "Landseer" type was developed in the UK. The Lab is more debated, with some people saying that it originated in England. That's why I didn't use them as examples to argue my point, I didn't want to start a debate (I find them stressful). --Pharaoh Hound (talk) 12:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Conformation bias
This article is heavily angled towards the conformation or show dog world and should probably be expanded to include the dog's actual breed role. CMacMillan 00:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- The article does explain the breed's traditional role: "The hunter stays hidden in a blind and sends the dog out to romp and play near the water, usually by tossing a ball or stick to be retrieved. The dog's crazy antics and white markings pique the curiosity of waterfowl, who swim over to investigate. The act of enticing or luring game to approach is known as tolling. When the birds are close, the hunter calls the dog back to the blind, then rises, putting the birds to flight, and shoots them. The Toller then retrieves any downed birds." The history section of this article is quite weak, and could be expanded more to include the breed's early years before recognition. --Pharaoh Hound (talk) 12:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- I totally agree. The article should not just be geared towards the breeding community. Anderssr 00:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm having trouble understanding the complaint. When I created the Toller stub over three years ago the first thing I noted was the breed's unusual method of working. That part has remained virtually unchanged. I have two questions: 1) What more do you think should be in the article? 2) Why don't you put it there? Instead of standing on the sidelines, why don't those who want to expand the article just add to it? I really don't see any dispute here. The Dogfather 19:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
