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April 2006 May 2006 – June 2006 July 2006 – August 2006 September 2006 – 2007

1 Commons image from Flickr - possible problem
2 Image:US Government most-wanted Iraqi playing cards.jpg
3 Plymouth things and stalking
4 Marty 03
5 Hurricane Infobox
6 Drake Circus AfD
7 Bhola Cyclone
8 Image:Danielle Newspaper.gif
9 Elements_of_an_Event-driven_Process_Chain.svg
10 tags
11 Pre-Meiji Period: Use of Japanese era name in identifying disastrous events
12 Editing of Admiral MacBride wiki page
13 Meteorological history of Hurricane Ivan FAR
14 Images uploaded
15 bot
16 {{currentdisaster}}
17 Image
18 Thank you
19 AfD nomination of Oxford Round Table
20 Hurricane trackmap Pacific typhoon season
21 Copyrights
22 Satellite images problem
23 Gripen pics Copyright/deletion
24 Image:119716066_d987ace305_o.jpg
25 photo copyright info
26 Image:113833343 3313a185cd.jpg
27 Image copyright "problem" with Image:Dr_T_P_O'Sullivan_c_1966.jpg
28 Thanks!

[edit] Commons image from Flickr - possible problem

Hi there. Would you have time to check out Wikipedia talk:Non-free content#Living people and replaceable images (Bobby Fisher)? While posting something about replaceable images for living people, I uncovered a concern about a Flickr image on Commons, Image:Robert Fischer - March 2005.jpg, where you confirmed its license. Given that a different crop of this image is marked as an AP (Associated Press) picture here, I suspect that the Flickr user just grabbed the image from a news website. Could you confirm whether or not the Commons picture checking process ("was reviewed on 2007-08-04 by the administrator or trusted user" bit) involves checking just whether the licence has been correctly transcribed, or whether it involves any checking of whether the Flickr user themselves took the photo (it seem this is not the case here)? Thanks. Carcharoth 01:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:US Government most-wanted Iraqi playing cards.jpg

Hi. Please come and participate in the discussion of Image:US Government most-wanted Iraqi playing cards.jpg. Thanks for your prompt attention to this matter. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:56, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plymouth things and stalking

Cheers, buddy. I have a mainly Plymouth-oriented radar, and so pick up a lot of silly edits. Typifies the area a lot - in that people are enthusiastic to say things (Wikipedia: Wikiproject Devon) but lack the nouse to do them well (and that includes me). I'm not sure if it would be best for me to back off completely or continue trying to police things a bit, albeit trying to let most stuff past without interference like I try to. Up to me I suppose - I should make a positive contribution of my own. Wish I had a decent camera. Cheers anyway - keep up the good work. Stevebritgimp 22:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marty 03

Rather than starting a revert war, I'll talk here. My issue with Marty is primarily continuity between other WPTC articles. Continually removing the hat for that one article could be seen as disruptive, given that you haven't done the same to any others. And I'd hardly call this a discussion on whether or not to include a hatnote on the top of each page. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:48, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Now we're getting somewhere, rather than speaking our thoughts in the tiny edit summaries :) I'll admit, I forgot about that discussion - it was three months ago, after all, and nothing seemed to happen with it. You made some fair points, and I believe this would be a great compromise. It eliminates the hatnote, and it gives something to the See also section, which really should not be List of notable cyclones. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Peter, yea, that was me being really stupid, as usual. I fixed it. Regarding Marty, is that an adequate solution? I believe that the other storm pages should be linked somewhere. If we both agree, then Marty can be de-protected. --Hurricanehink (talk) 22:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Heh, I didn't know you were still dealing with that user. I know my solution is not ideal, but removing the hatnotes and deleting the pages is a bit of a two-part process. Some might object to deleting those hatnotes right now given their place, but if they were in the See also section of the article, they wouldn't be as valuable. If those pages don't get deleted any time soon (after all, the discussion pages on storm archives were kept), then these could have a bit of a purpose. There is some value in having them to link to other related articles - off the top of my head, I can think of Barry, Dean, Alberto, Beryl, and Debby in just the past two years. --Hurricanehink (talk) 23:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Wait, I'm confused - since when did I ever care about policy. ;) But I'm also confused by your response. What is the harm in putting the dab page in the see also, like Hurricane Barry for all Barry articles. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:55, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Who says that the "sole purpose" of dab pages is to "help readers find the correct article"? You've said yourself that our dabs are more than typical dabs. Why can't we ignore their sole purpose and use them as articles in the see also section? The navbars might take time, and God knows they're much more work than to put a link in one section (and for that matter also removing it from the top). To avoid the potential naming confusing, a Barry article could have Other tropical cyclones named Barry as the wikilink; what is the harm in doing that? Hurricanehink (talk) 23:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Infobox

heya Nilf, sorry bout the edit to the hurricane infobox with changing the align, for some reason i though that it had always been center align.

Also I was thinking that if the cat is left align then the storm name should be as well because it seems silly that nearly everything is central except that bit and it jus seems out of place with the rest of the template. Also do you want me to put it back on the other hurricane info box as well because i made the same change there. Seddon69 01:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Drake Circus AfD

I think you must have !voted on the Drake Circus AfD just before I posted my comments and copied over the total rewrite of the article. Sorry for the edit conflict. The revised article is almost fully referenced, only makes passing mention of the contested "area" and is I think uncontroversial among those who've been working on it. The only issue that remains is its notability. Could I ask you to have another look, please? Thanks Smalljim 23:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for reconsidering, and sorry for the trouble. It's my fault for dithering for several hours over whether to copy the rewrite over or not. And of course just minutes before I did, two people decide to look at it - that's called Sod's law here! I suppose I should have guessed that there'd be a flurry of activity on AfD pages just before midnight. Smalljim 00:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

And thanks for tidying up after the page recreation. I'm concerned about the existence of this: User:Nicole 50dc, which is what he doubtless used to recreate it. He's still editing that page so I'm worried it's going to be used to resurrect the page in some guise again. I've asked for guidance at the VP, but if you can help... Smalljim 23:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Update. On Coredesat's advice, I've put the page up for MfD. Smalljim 09:08, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bhola Cyclone

Hi Nilfanion, thanks for contributing in the article Bhola Cyclone. Hopefully you can start working in this article again very soon. Just to inform you, we are focusing to do a lot of job about BD related topics from mid December and ready to help whatever we can to achive status for Bhola Cyclone. Regards and keep it up. --Tarif from Bangladesh (talk) 13:25, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Danielle Newspaper.gif

I have removed the fair use disputed tag. The image satisfies WP:NFCC#8 easily, as the image is not used only as decoration, but rather as the only impact picture for the article, demonstrating the damage caused by the storm, meeting the "significantly increase[s] readers' understanding of the topic" test of the policy. The new fair use rationale should also satisfy WP:NFCC#10. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 06:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Elements_of_an_Event-driven_Process_Chain.svg

Nilfanion: I'd like to personally thank you (as opposed to having someone else do it) for your foresight in giving this swell image of yours a black background so I could easily use it as my portable's desktop (see screenshot. Any court in the land would agree that it's a handsome graphic, and it has the added advantage of making me appear much more organized than reality would confirm. Cheers, Ander —Preceding unsigned comment added by SomeAvailableName (talk • contribs) 23:47, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] tags

Don't put those tags there, because I am trying to create a list of what needs to be done in each article. Tags at the beginning of the page are unhelpful. Good kitty 18:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

That might make sense if there were actual authors attached to it, and they had written it while neglecting to put references. Right now it is just stub class, with nothing substantial written after the lede. If you put tags across every article that is a stub, people will not be very happy with it. Tagging is a way of doing something without actually doing anything at all (and should be done conservatively IMO). There are obviously a lot of articles in need of expansion in WTCP, and ones that do have tags have been sitting idle for years. Good kitty (talk) 20:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I have tried to work on WTCP while avoiding projects, but this is absolutely ridiculous. You are now implying that I am a copyright thief? You could have resolved the issue by adding references that you admit you left out in the first place, which probably would've benefited all. I have contributed so much more to WTCP, but now I would rather not edit here anymore and receive all these nasty messages from you. Good kitty (talk) 23:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

No listen. This discussion has changed from the tagging to the page splitting, so now I will address why I am tired of this place. This will be my last edit to Wikipedia (which I have been doing for three years without incident). You chose to be an admin, so it is your job to correct mistakes on others' parts. If I left out a detail when making an edit, you should correct it and tell me about it. However, you should NOT start to accuse me of deliberately infringing on copyrights. Your job is to do things with TACT, which you almost have less of than Chacor when he was an admin. You should also try to be civil and not leave bolded messages on talk pages or snide comments (like 'sigh') in the edit summary. Those things are considered rude, and it is your job as an admin to be civil.Good kitty (talk) 03:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-Meiji Period: Use of Japanese era name in identifying disastrous events

Would you consider making a contribution to an exchange of views at either of the following:

As you know, Wikipedia:WikiProject Disaster management came up with entirely reasonable guidelines for naming articles about earthquakes, fires, typhoons, etc. However, the <<year>><<place> <<event>> format leaves no opportunity for conventional nengō which have been used in Japan since the eighth century (701-1945) -- as in "the Great Fire of Meireki" (1657) or for "the Hōei eruption of Mount Fuji" (1707).

In a purely intellectual sense, I do look forward to discovering how this exchange of views will develop; but I also have an ulterior motive. I hope to learn something about how better to argue in favor of a non-standard exception to conventional, consensus-driven, and ordinarily helpful wiki-standards such as this one. In my view, there does need to be some modest variation in the conventional paradigms for historical terms which have evolved in non-Western cultures -- no less in Wikipedia than elsewhere. I'm persuaded that, at least in the context of Japanese history before the reign of Emperor Meiji (1868-1912), some non-standard variations seem essential; but I'm not sure how best to present my reasoning to those who don't already agree with me. I know these first steps are inevitably awkward; but there you have it.

The newly-created 1703 Genroku earthquake article pushed just the right buttons for me. Obviously, these are questions that I'd been pondering for some time; and this became a convenient opportunity to move forward in a process of building a new kind of evolving consensus. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 17:57, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing of Admiral MacBride wiki page

Hi,

I've logged in to check the Wiki page I created for the Admiral MacBride's pub, which contains the historic mayflower steps. Its regularly visited by American's, especially on thanks giving day. Upon logging in I noticed the following:

21:28, 6 October 2007 Nilfanion (Talk | contribs) deleted "Admiral MacBride" ‎ (CSD G12 - copyvio from http://www.admiralmacbride.co.uk/)

I'm newish to Wiki, but read the T&Cs and I thought the wiki page covered all the correct criteria? I'm also the website designer of the admiralmacbride.co.uk and work for the pub so their is no breakage in copyright. The photo taken was also by me on a summers day :).

I have a copy of the wiki page, which I'd like to readd, but wanted to check with you first about the reasons for deletion in case I missed something.

Kind Regards,

- Scott Grenney

[edit] Meteorological history of Hurricane Ivan FAR

Hi. I removed the FAR for Meteorological history of Hurricane Ivan. Since it was recently deemed worthy of FA status it would be best to raise your concerns in the article's talk page before submitting a FAR. Furthermore, you may contact the nominator and try to resolve any concerns with him/her. Joelito (talk) 01:21, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images uploaded

All aff these images has source information and all other necessary data. Can you please verify you checking methods...--— Typ932^{T | C} 13:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

If you want author why dont you say so, now they have author details, because very old photos the author is unknown...--— Typ932^{T | C} 13:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC) Those photos are public domain, how they can be deleted.... if so you must tag over 200 photos og PD public italy photos...--— Typ932^{T | C} 13:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC) Great then you have something to do rest of the day, check also other countries PD photos...--— Typ932^{T | C} 13:33, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you show the page where is the source/author must? I can only find this >

It is important that you list the author of the image if known (especially if different from the source), which is important both for copyright and for informational purposes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cite_your_sources#When_you_add_content

--— Typ932^{T | C} 13:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Huh there is clearly the source, "If you download an image from the web, you should give the URL:"

--— Typ932^{T | C} 15:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Found source only to Lancia Theta Coloniale.jpg, feel free to delete rest, but you should also go thru all PD_country categories...

there is lots of job for you...--— Typ932^{T | C} 16:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] bot

What is nilfbot? You used this to upload track images? Where is the code? — jdorje (talk) 06:03, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] {{currentdisaster}}

I just had to :) ViperSnake151 00:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image

I'm working on my thesis and saw your image on wikipedia at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Pacific_typhoon_tracks_1980-2005.jpg and was wondering if you make these images yourself or get them from somewhere else. If possible, can i get an image of the same location or zoomed closer to guam but with different years...say from 1995 to 2005. is this possible? 129.15.88.107 (talk) 16:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I made that image myself, and I can create an image for your purposes. Please email me with your needs and I'll get back to you shortly.--Nilf anion (talk) 16:23, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

... for cleaning up the mess I made! --NorwegianBlue^talk 21:49, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Oxford Round Table

An editor has nominated Oxford Round Table, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oxford Round Table and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. Coldmachine^Talk 23:02, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane trackmap Pacific typhoon season

Err, could you please produce the missing track maps for 2007 Pacific typhoon season and upload them at commons? Greetings. --Matthiasb-DE (talk) 19:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyrights

You're citing photos for "no copyright status" which the uploaders are saying are photos they took themselves. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 02:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

They probably need to say "PD-self" and that would cover it, right? But they may not know you're looking for that precise wording, but you're not helping them. Instead, you're issuing threats, and they maybe can't figure out why, or don't even know about it if they haven't been logged on for awhile. So pictures that they, themselves, uploaded are going to get zapped for no good reason. You should be ashamed. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 04:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

The descriptions for the ones I checked indicated that the uploaders took the pictures themselves ("self-made" - what could be clearer than that?) In those cases, there is no practical difference between that and saying "PD-self" except for wording. You are issuing unwarranted deletion threats against those users without giving them any hint as to what the real issue is, namely that the wording doesn't precisely match what you're demanding. It's bureaucratic and offensive. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 11:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

It only "tells" the uploader something if they already know what this cryptic little box means. If I had uploaded something in good faith and had no idea what this box meant, I would assume that wikipedia is run by bureaucrats and idiots. Or I would send you an angry post (much angrier than these have been). Is that the result you want? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 11:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

If those cryptic warnings actually told the users in plain English what they need to do to fix the problem (which they currently don't do), you could save yourself a lot of trouble. Unless you enjoy getting angry responses. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 11:40, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

If I didn't already know that I'm supposed to say "PD-self", I would be extremely intimidated by that gobbledygook page that's supposed to "explain" licensing. It was written by and for someone who already understands it. The way I learn about these things is by asking an admin directly. And if they send me to one of these nonsense pages, I ask another admin. It is not fair for you to expect the casual editor to understand this legalistic mumbo-jumbo. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 11:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions in discouraging people from participating in wikipedia. You aren't willing to do anything about the issues I've raised. So, enough of you already. Enjoy the complaints from the affected users. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 11:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

These "explanation" pages are nonsense. They shouldn't have to have a law degree to figure out what they're supposed to do just to upload a bloody photo that they took. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 12:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

The upload form doesn't make any sense either. I tried the "self-made" on an upload and thought it was done, and still got dinged for "no license", and had to add the PD-self afterward. That's probably what happened with some of those others that you tagged yesterday. You all have made this more and more difficult as time has gone on. You are hurting, not helping. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 12:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I've seen that dropdown before. Which of those legalese-gobbledygook items is equivalent to "PD-self"? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 12:50, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

PD-self actually makes sense, unlike the other stuff. Hence it is of no use, eh? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 13:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, with all the hassle that comes with uploading stuff, I've concluded over time that certain wikipedians really don't want any images at all, and they grudgingly put up with the ones that they haven't yet found a justification to squash, making it as difficult as possible to upload them. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 14:13, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Satellite images problem

Nilfanion Sir! Thanks for telling me that what the problem is with the satellite images that I upload, but then why only the particular image "FerozpurRoadInterchange.jpg", as there are many satellite images that I have uploaded and used on articles on Wikipedia. No one objected on other satellite images, then why only this one? I have uploaded more than 20 satellite images that belong to the same source copied throught Google Earth system, so what? Isn't there any problem with other images. Why only this "FerozpurRoadInterchange.jpg" image. Please tell me that why only this one. Why not others too. I want to solve this issue. Please. --Ahsaniqbal 93 (talk) 14:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gripen pics Copyright/deletion

Hi. I took those pictures myself. Copyright ceded to the Creative Commons. Zerbet

[edit] Image:119716066_d987ace305_o.jpg

This image was taken by me - how do I license it so it can be used? Liquidindian (talk) 21:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] photo copyright info

You sent me a message about my picture not having copy info. I don't know what more is needed. As I wrote - and as it stands - I took the picture. I also classified it by clicin on gdfl or what-ever. What more is needed?

Yes, please mark it as gfdl for me (I clicked on that - or some other license - when i entered it; I don't know why it isn't indicated.) Thanx. Kim Dammers

[edit] Image:113833343 3313a185cd.jpg

Excuse me, why did you delete this? How was it a "blatent" infringement? The CC liscense was a ATTRIBUTION liscense only if I recall.--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) (talk) 22:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright "problem" with Image:Dr_T_P_O'Sullivan_c_1966.jpg

I have been away and have just seen your message about this. The photograph was taken by me personally and there can be no copyright problem with it, but I see that the image file has been deleted. Could you please restore it and I shall fill any additional detail which may be necessary?

Deipnosophista (talk) 17:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for the new set of track maps. Badkhan (talk) 21:33, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

And for the details about the voting procedure. Thierry Caro (talk) 00:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

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