Talk:Michigan Technological University

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Contents 1 The Ratio 2 Top Engineering School 3 List of Majors 4 Greeks 5 World record attempt 6 Demographics 7 School Colors 8 K-Day 9 Student Life 10 Fair use rationale for Image:Wmtu.gif 11 Fair use rationale for Image:Michigan Tech ath.png

[edit] The Ratio

"One favorite saying of Michiganders is "Michigan Tech, where the men are men -- and so are the women." This is in reference to the fact that approximately 75% of the school's students are men."

This quote bothers me quite a bit. Given, "the ratio" (3:1 male-to-female) is a huge topic of discussion at MTU, but this particular phrase is used rarely and is somewhat offensive. I'm replacing it with a more factual statement, let me know what you think. --Dcclark 05:37, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I agree it doesn't belong in the article but back in the day (as irreverent fraternity boys often will) we went further... "...where the men are men, the women are too, and the sheep are nervous!" Smile. (BS CS '83) ++Lar: t/c 01:56, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Top Engineering School

I'm bothered by the lack of objective evidence offered to support statements like "top engineering school" and that the communications program is one of the best in the country. Please offer evidence or edit the passages.

While I don't have a Peterson's guide handy, here are a few links:

[1] with quote "MTU has been recognized for academic excellence by U.S. News & World Report's "America's Best Colleges," which ranked MTU's environmental engineering and materials science and engineering curricula 11th and 12th best in the nation, respectively. Michigan Tech has also been cited by Money Magazine's "Best Buys in College Education," and Peterson's Competitive Colleges."

[2] with quote: "Michigan Tech is rated among the nation's top sixty public national universities in the 2005 U.S. News and World Report's “America's Best Colleges.” and "Michigan Tech has one of the nation's largest programs in technical communication and has top ten programs in enrollment in environmental, mechanical, and geological engineering."

[3] indicates that the STC (Communications) program is in fact the largest in the country. The "best" description has been included in recruiting pamphlets, which I'll find next time I visit.

I'll get around to editing up the main page and adding links, probably with more useful data, in a few days. Also, please consider signing in and signing your comments with four tildes. :) —dcclark (talk) 16:50, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] List of Majors

The alphebatized list of majors seems completely unnecessary, and only serves to lengthen the middle of the article. I can't find a similar list on other Universities in Michigan pages either. If I don't hear any argument, I'll probably remove it entirely and simply refer to some large programs -- we don't need to list everything that Tech students can major in! —dcclark (talk) 16:42, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Greeks

I removed a bullet point to the effect of, "Greek life is important at Tech, there is always a party going." That was obviously unnecessary, but Greek life IS quite active. If anyone can provide a list of useful info (say, Alpha chapters at Tech, events sponsored by Greeks, etc.) then we could add a section about Student Life and merge that in. Anyone got such information? —dcclark (talk) 16:46, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm currently attending ((BS CNSA)) so I should be able to get a copy of all the chapters on campus, and all the events sponsered. Additionally, I'll see if I can expand to make it a bit more "Student Life" instead of just greek life. Semi-Related: Carnival is coming up, does anyone think it would be appropriate to include a sub section about it? If so, I'll take my camera and try to get some pictures of the snow statues and things. ((I'd like to see MTU get to FA :) )) D1universe (talk) 20:38, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I've added a navbox with a list of all the current Greek Organizations at Tech under the Greek Orgs headline. I hope everyone approves.

—IcePenguin (talk) 05:08, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't navboxes go only at the bottom of pages, if they're inline (as opposed to a sidebar)? -- dcclark (talk) 12:14, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain about the response, but what about Alpha Phi Omega, Mu Beta Psi? They're listed on the Student Organizations under greeks but not on here. And you say there are 13 fraternities but 14 are listed in the box?mhsenkow(talk)

I think there's a better way to do this. Check out Dartmouth College#Student groups and note 1) what that section of the article says about Greek life – ours reads a little like an advertisement – and 2) the link to a separate page (Dartmouth College Greek organizations) about the fraternities and sororities at Dartmouth. That's how it should be done. Of course, it'll probably take years to get MTU's fraternity/sorority page up to that level, and in the meantime, we can start with something like Cornell's page (List of fraternities and sororities at Cornell University). —Zeagler (talk) 19:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] World record attempt

I added an entry under history about the recent world record attempt. I will add the final counts once verification comes back from Guiness. I also added information about the controversy that North Dakota created about the record attempt. Feel free to move this information or edit it. --Bakkster Man 02:04, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Looks good, thanks for the update. I hadn't even realized there was a controversy. -- dcclark (talk) 04:53, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

My favorite quote from this whole thing: "North Dakota has a problem and it's called Michigan." --Bakkster Man 23:27, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Demographics

This quote: " The student body is approximately 90% Caucasian, 2% African American, 1% Asian and 1% Hispanic. " ... maybe a bit dodgy! What are the other 6%? Is there a cite for it? Thanks! ++Lar: t/c 01:56, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

There's a breakdown of the 2006 freshman class at [4] that conforms to this -- the remaining 6% is about 1% Native American, and 5% multi/unspecified. 216.103.50.52 04:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] School Colors

The recent edit by 68.40.116.117 hilights a common misconception. Tech's official school colors are Silver and Gold [5]. However, the de facto colors are yellow and black, since they show up better. Yellow and black are used everywhere at sporting and official events. Most Techies probably think these are the real school colors. I don't think we can reasonably exclude one set or the other, so I included both in the infobox. Objections, suggestions? -- dcclark (talk) 18:30, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] K-Day

I changed a recent addition about "K-Day" originally being "Keg Day". This is true, but as you can find out fairly easily (here, for example), it wasn't a university-sponsored event when it involved actual kegs. The university actually was fairly clever in making K-Day official, since that made the (university-related parts of the) event "dry" as well. -- dcclark (talk) 13:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

If there's a cite for it being called Keg Day at one point, I'd support putting it back in as it adds historic flavour to that section. In my day the (semi?) official name (IIRC) was "Keeweenaw Day" but everyone knew it meant kegs and kegs, and called it K-Day... ++Lar: t/c 14:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

The information about "Keg Day" is still in the article. I just removed the bit claiming that the university actually supplied kegs to students. That I can't find a reliable cite for. And yeah -- it's still "Keweenaw Day". :) -- dcclark (talk) 15:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Student Life

I just did a major rewrite of student life, please let me know if it was too drastic. Some of the things I'm still trying to decide are if I should include a list of the fraternities and sororities, and also a link to a constitution of one of them, to note the membership requirements difference. Additionally, I'm planning to write up sections on the major special activities, and will be taking pictures at the winter carnival this year to display the snow statues.

Again, let me know if this was too drastic. D1universe (talk) 00:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, I'm planning on adding in a section about broomball, and would like to expand the section about the residence halls to include some history about them, and some statistics on their capacity and what not. Again, when the weather gets better ((Next fall, for those of you who have been here before, :-) )) I'm hoping to get some campus pictures. D1universe (talk) 00:15, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Awesome! At first glance, I like the additions. Some research on the history of the university and residence halls would be great. -- dcclark (talk) 01:02, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Wmtu.gif

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Michigan Tech ath.png

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