Talk:Lionel Bart

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Contents 1 Cut pending citation 2 "Bart" 3 External links 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Lionel Bart.jpg

[edit] Cut pending citation

There are persistent rumours that Bart was not the real author of Oliver!. One version, current in the 60s, was that an unknown woman offered the score and book of the musical to the same theatrical agency which represented Bart, and that her rights were bought out for a substantial sum. Subsequently, after the score was professionally orchestrated and the book and lyrics improved, the work was produced with Bart's name attached as its author. It was rightly believed that the name of Lionel Bart, as an already established and well-known pop singer, songwriter and lyricist, would ensure the musical's success. The fact that Bart could neither read, write nor play a note of music and that he never rose to the heights of inspiration and invention displayed in Oliver! before or afterwards can only fuel doubts about its true authorship.

If this is citable, fine, even though I think it is still ridiculous. There are great songs in Blitz! ("Our Hotel", "Tell Him-Tell Her", "Who's This Geezer Hitler?", "Is This Gonna Be A Wedding?", a play clearly written from his personal experience. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

More uncited rumor cut:

• "although another version states that he was on a bus which went past Bartholomews Hospital in London, and that propmpted the idea"
• " Around that time it is suggested that Oliver! was making Bart 14 Pounds every minute, and he had homes in several parts of the world"

- Jmabel | Talk 20:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Bart"

This edit substitutes one plausible explanation of him taking the name "Bart" for another. Neither is cited. Does someone have a citation on this? - Jmabel | Talk 02:06, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links

Someone added

• Lionel Bart website

At the moment, it is one (vacuous) page with two pictures that may well be copyright violations. If it comes together as a substantive web site, it might be fine to re-add, but at the moment that would be premature. - Jmabel | Talk 17:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Lionel Bart.jpg

Image:Lionel Bart.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 22:18, 6 November 2007 (UTC)