User:Kmaster/Shai Hulud
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[edit] Kmaster's Shai Hulud userpage
So, basically this is were I keep very usefull information about Shai Hulud and/or members, for future improvements and arguments for debates.
[edit] Interview with Steve Kleisath
for future edits. In this one, steve talks about shai hulud and strongarm, this info can be included in his bio.
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Interviewee: Steve Kleisath
Interviewer: Nate Hess
Original Source: Forever Fighting Online
Date: 10/??/98
Source: http://www.ruleeverymoment.com/media/interviews/interview.php?id=3
Nate Hess: How did they get you into Shai Hulud?
Steve Kleisath: Well it didn't work out with the other guy and they knew I played in Strongarm, and I knew Matt as a friend. At first I was just gonna fill in until they found someone, cause I was full time in Strongarm. They asked, ""Why don't you fill in for us until we find somebody?"", and they really didn't find anybody, and we started really getting together as far as the chemistry of the band. And I was given a lot of freedom to write stuff as well. Basically everything after the three song CD either me or Matt have written as far as musically. When Oliver and Dave contribute something, of course, we use it.
Nate Hess: What is your percussion history, how did you get into drums?
Steve Kleisath: Well ever since I was a little kid I liked banging on things. (Laughter) And I wound up getting a drum set when I was 10 or 11, I never had any lessons or anything, it's sort of a natural ability or God given talent. Must be. I just progressed from there. There was this time when I liked to read, I read music nominally, only drum music. But ah...there was a time when I was like 16, 17 when I really got into the aspects of like rudiments and solos and that whole thing like musician magazine kind of crap. (Laughter) Now I just basically play to write. I just like to write interesting arrangements, timings, even though sometimes they are four-four, they just have a different approach to a different timing, and of course we also like other timings that aren't that such as like waltzy things we just beef up and make more powerful. Yea, Iíve been playing for about 13-15 years.
Nate Hess: What was the first band you were in?
Steve Kleisath: The first band I was in...the first band that I was in...ironically I was like 15 I think, and playing with a bunch of older men, like in their 30's and stuff. We were like a cover band, we liked Emerson Lake and Palmer, Rush and classic rock. Which I love.
Nate Hess: When did you join Strongarm?
Steve Kleisath: I joined Strongarm in like 1995 I think, they had already put out their demo, ""These Times That Try Menís Souls,"" and they had another demo that was a local kinda thing. I had known them already as friends, I was thinking about moving down there to be closer to them. And things didn't work out with their drummer, who actually became the singer on the new album of course, on the first album, Atonement, he's the drummer, the guy who sings the second album(The Advent Of A Miracle). So they asked me to play and I pondered it for a while, I didn't want to step on anybody's toes, I was good friends with Chris. And then finally a couple things happened and I made the decision, the right decision, to join the band.
Nate Hess: Do you have a favorite Strongarm story?
Steve Kleisath: As far as on tour? Yea. It's so funny cause I know there's tons of them but they are clouded in your mind...I'm trying to think. Probably um...when we were in Vancouver, we went cliff jumping. I didn't do it because the water was waaayyyy too cold for me it was ridiculous. There was that club there that goes around jumping in ice filled water, the Polar Bear Club. Well it was the sort of feature, there was this high cliff, and kids were going off it naked, these locals up there, it wasn't anything to them. Us being warm-blooded Floridians it was freezing to us. But a couple of us did, Josh did, and Matt chickened out. For me it wasn't the height, it was the water was too cold. But it was fun, the whole time we were up there. It was actually Strongarm and Shai Hulud, we brought them along with us.
[edit] Interviews with Matt Fox
[edit] Lyrics & Outside the Boundaries of A Friend
THIS TEXT IS NOT COPYRIGHTED!, this review is totally incomplete, i only copied the usefull parts of the article-(for references), in this one, matt talks about the lyrics process and the song "outside the boundaries of a friend" by far one of my favorites.
Interviewee: Matt Fox
Interviewer: Ploedi
Source: PunkHardcore.com
Date: ??/??/????
http://www.ruleeverymoment.com/media/interviews/interview.php?id=6
Ploedi: What about songwriting in the band? Is it true that all members in the band write the lyrics?
Matt Fox: Well, I do most of the lyrics. Simply because I feel so irritated by a lot of things that I see, I constantly have my folder or my notebook around me. So I'm always writing things down. So I'd say that I write the majority of the lyrics simply because I've always got a pen in my hand. But anyone else, when the see that something bothers them they write it down and we also make lyrics when we have music that needs lyrics. Dave, our bass player writes some of the lyrics to the songs of ""Hearts once nourished...."" and he was really bothered by how Vegans were very idealist and the thought they were better than anyone else. So that inspired him to write a song and when he showed every one lyrics, everyone loved them and it simply goes into a song. So, that's simply how it works. When whoever feels that they have something to contribute just at anytime write something down and we all work it out together.
Ploedi: You seem to cover lots of topics in the lyrics. Is this the result that lots of people write them?
Matt Fox: Well, most of the lyrics on the first 7 were from Damien (As Friends Rust). He was in our band first and he wrote the lyrics to ""Hardly"" and some of the lyrics for ""For The World"" and I wrote all the lyrics for ""If Born"". On the album I wrote most of them and Dave contributed. This definitely gives us a broader topic range of lyrics.
Ploedi: What exactly are the lyrics ""Outside The Boundaries Of A Friend"" about?
Matt Fox: That's funny because the whole album has got a pretty negative theme and that song in particular is about a girl that I was really cared about and things didn't work out between us. She was the inspiration for that song. But now we are best friends, she's my favorite person in the whole world but at that point with her I felt that she was setting boundaries of what I should be for and the fact that I liked her more than a friend I felt that I was outside those boundaries and that's why we couldn't get along and that's what the title means and the lyrics just regarded the fall of the relationship. We were really good friends and I started having feelings for her and her feelings didn't match my own.
[edit] "Metalcore seems appropriate"
THIS TEXT IS NOT COPYRIGHTED!, this review is totally incomplete, i only copied the usefull parts of the article-(for references), in this one, matt states "metalcore" seems appropriate. THERE YA GO. And that's why Shai Hulud is a true metalcore band. They DO blend hardcore with metal. I have a lot of interviews with the band saying: "we are a metalcore band".
Interviewee: Matt Fox
Interviewer: John Doe Zine
Source:
Date: ??/??/02
http://www.ruleeverymoment.com/media/interviews/interview.php?id=17
John Doe Zine: How would you describe your music?
Matt Fox: Metalcore seems appropriate. We also say it is 'brutiful' , a combination of brutal and beautiful. Shai Hulud is the world's first Neo Classical Metalcorchastra.
[edit] Again with metalcore
THIS TEXT IS NOT COPYRIGHTED!, this review is totally incomplete, i only copied the usefull parts of the article-(for references), in this one, matt states again the term "metalcore" for shai hulud's music.
Interviewee: Matt Fox
Interviewer: Chris Etheredge
Source: Facedownfall
Date: 02/??/02
http://www.ruleeverymoment.com/media/interviews/interview.php?id=18
Chris Etheredge: For someone who has never heard Shai Hulud, describe your sound, musical approach, and philosophies.
Matt Fox: Well, the sound is aggressive, akin to metal or hardcore, yet it has elements of rock, and even classical. In a nutshell I think metalcore is a fair label for it, as much as we don't like labels, metalcore seems appropriate, and somewhat funny. Lately we have been using the terms ""Brutiful"" (which is a combination of beautiful and brutal), and a NeoClassical MetalCorechestration
[edit] Interviews with Geert van der Velde
[edit] Geert van der Velde and Hardcore/Metalcore bands
THIS TEXT IS NOT COPYRIGHTED!, this review is totally incomplete, i only copied the usefull parts of the article-(for references), in this one, geert talks a lot about metalcore bands and more stuff.
Interviewee: Geert van der Velde
Interviewer: Sk8shorty
Source: PaHardcore.com
Date: 02/??/02
http://www.ruleeverymoment.com/media/interviews/interview.php?id=19
Sk8shorty: What Musical direction would you like to take Shai Hulud in as well as what Lyrical direction?
Geert van der Velde: I'm pretty happy with the direction we're going in right now. Shai Hulud has always been pretty innovative and I've always felt that they had a different sound from most hardcore/metalcore bands. When Shai Hulud first came out with their EP, I had honestly never heard any band that sounded even remotely like them. Nothing compared to it, aside from Strongarm, which is for obvious reasons as both bands shared the same drummer and had been best friends for years. Now that melodic hardcore/metalcore is becoming more and more popular, I think, that it will definitely be harder for us to distinguish ourselves from the rest of our peers. The new album musically has a lot more heavier parts and relies a lot more on chord progressions and harmonies than the previous stuff. The melodies are still there and are still very, very important but the songs aren't written around them as much any more as they used to. Lyrically the band has taken somewhat more of a socially aware direction then before. ""Hearts Once Nourished..."" was a very personally anguished record stemming from a lot of the band's members' (mostly Fox's) personal issues like depression and heartache. Since then the band has moved away from that a lot. This was somewhat intentional and somewhat unintentional. When we had the new line-up (4 out of 5 of us) together we decided to try and stay away from that as much as possible because we didn't want to put out another ""Hearts Once Nourished..."" or ""The Fall of Every Man"". Sure, the new record is very emotional, it's lyrical style is just a little less personal and has more of a message than the previous releases. I've always believed that Shai Hulud had something more valuable to share. The lyrical content of ""That Within Blood-Ill Tempered"" is a lot angrier but also a lot more uplifting as opposed ""Hearts Once Nourished With Hope and Compassion"" which was at times depressing.
Sk8shorty: Top 5 cds on your playlist right now?
Geert van der Velde: Pantera - ""Reinventing the Steel"" (metal?)
Poison the Well - ""Tear from the Red"" (postharcore-metalcore)
Arkangel - ""Dead Man Walking"" / ""Prayers Upon Deaf Ears"" (metalcore)
Coldplay - ""Parachutes"" (whatever)
Jimmy Eat World - ""Bleed American"" (emo)
Sk8shorty: Top 10 cds on playlist of all time?
Geert van der Velde: My top 10 changes depending on my mood but 10 of my all time favorite band are:
Metallica - all, especially ""Ride the Lightening"" / ""Master of Puppets"" and self titled (thrash)
Strongarm - ""Advent of a Miracle"" (hardcore)
Earth Crisis - all , especially ""Gomorrah's Season Ends"" , ""Destroy the Machines"" (metalcore)
Further Seems Forever - ""The Moon is Down"" (hardcore)
Amorphis - all, especially ""Elegy"" and ""Tales from a Thousand Lakes""
Propagandhi - all (punk hardcore)
Death - all, especially ""Symbolic"" and ""Individual Thought Patterns"" (deathmetal)
Jimmy Eat World - all, especially ""Clarity"" , ""Bleed American"" (emo)
In Flames - all, especially ""Subterranean"" (melodeath)
Meshuggah - all , especially ""Chaosphere" (?)
Sk8shorty: What show/Band got you into hardcore/metalcore?
Geert van der Velde: Earth Crisis's - Destroy the Machines got me into hardcore/metalcore, hands down. Before that I was a long haired metalhead. Which as you can tell from my all time favorites list is still my favorite kind of music to listen to, although I've discovered that I really like melodic rock and punk as well.
[edit] Geert and Shai Hulud's music
THIS TEXT IS NOT COPYRIGHTED!, this review is totally incomplete, i only copied the usefull parts of the article-(for references), in this one, geert talks about shai hulud's music as METALCORE.
Interviewee: Geert van der Velde
Interviewer: Kevin Dill
Source: soulineyes.com
Date: 05/06/02
http://www.ruleeverymoment.com/media/interviews/interview.php?id=21
Kevin Dill: What do you think separates Shai Hulud from other bands?
Geert van der Velde: Our sound. I think anyone that is somewhat familiar with our music can tell right away when they listen to Shai Hulud. It's true there is many melodic metal and hardcore bands out there right now. But I think Shai Hulud's sound is very distinct. I don't think anyone combines punk, hardcore and metal the way Shai Hulud does. I hope I don't come off as arrogant or anything. Even though I've been in the band for almost 3 years and have even contributed some of my own writing I still am a huge fan and I simply believe that Shai Hulud is one of the most original and creative metalcore bands out there right now. I still get goose bumps sometimes when I listen to some of the writing on some of the older Shai Hulud releases.
[edit] Misanthropy Pure cover released
It is brutal and beautiful, just like their music.
 Awesome cover! (Released March 21 2008) |
