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Contents 1 Link to list of ships 2 Jack pic 3 SMS 4 Language 5 WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

[edit] Link to list of ships

I don't know this material well enough to make a call here, but I came across the link / de-link of SMS while patrolling RC. Would it be appropriate to link either SMS or the words themselves to List of ships of the German navies? That page seems to have a more complete list than the few mentioned here. SWAdair | Talk 08:51, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying us of this. I have put in a See also for the link, since that will probably be the best to draw the readers' attention to the fact that such a list exists. --Wernher 10:09, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Jack pic

Is the picture of the jack genuine? The iron cross in the middle seems heavily pixelated, as if it were pasted on a German tricolor by a computer artist, circa 1985. LeoO3 02:59, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Fixed. Greentubing 03:48, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SMS

Doesn't SMS stand for Sein Majestäts Schiff? I'm not sure is it Sein or Seiner (I have a C in German ;) ), but it's definitely Majestäts, not Majestät.

--193.198.130.162 22:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

No, the article is correct. For reference, check the German wikipedia entry for SMS. (The genetive of the noun proper 'Majestät' is indeed 'Majestät', not 'Majestäts' -- a form which is only used in composita such as 'Majestätsbeleidigung'.)

--89.56.217.7 16:10, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

...though 'Majestät' is a common, not a proper, noun. Deipnosophista (talk) 06:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Language

This is not the German Wikipedia. The title of the article should be in English. Leaving it in German is pretentious and is unhelpful to non-German speakers. Deipnosophista (talk) 13:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Then you must demonstrate that "German Imperial Navy" is a more common term than "Kaiserliche Marine" in English usage. It's not about being pretentious or anything of the sort; it's about common usage. Parsecboy (talk) 23:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

The two run together in this case. But since the language of the encyclopedia is English, it is for those using other languages, not those using English, to justify their usage by demonstrating its currency. Deipnosophista (talk) 06:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Another thing to consider is, do we not use Kriegsmarine for the German Navy during the Nazi period? As for sources demonstrating usage in English, there are the following books found on a Google Books and/or Google Scholar search: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7, 8, and a report by the US National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics: 9. Parsecboy (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 19:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)