Talk:John Bonham
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[edit] Weird Star question
Looking at my Dad's old 1975(?) Song Remains the Same guide, I noticed that every picture of Bonham had a strange star shape over his right eye, kind of like this shape.
Any explanations?
(No it wasn't put there afterwards, it's printed in the leaflet)
[edit] Birmingham
Can anyone cite evidence (as opposed to fan-site hearsay) that Bonham's early bands were from Birmingham, as opposed to one of the outlying towns, please? Andy Mabbett 09:34, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Band_Of_Joy
http://www.rockdetector.com/artist,869.sm
http://www.answers.com/topic/band-of-joy
http://www.brumbeat.net/bandofjo.htm
Need any more? --82.36.168.224 15:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I have added the following true sentence:
"The cause of death was asphyxiation caused by choking on his own vomit."
Stating that he died of a "tragic accident" without revealing the unfortunate truth of what the accident actually was is against the philosophy of NPOV.
[edit] Gear
I think the list of gear would look a lot better in a table format or something similar. If anyone out there is familiar with that, please give it a shot. dfg 18:38, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Why does this section even exist? I am sure other drummers can find this information elsewhere, and it seems irrelevant to anyone else.Catnapgirl 00:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New Section
I chopped a paragraph that was a little out of place and put in near the end where it seemed to have a better fit. Anger22 15:14, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bonham's drinking
I am not sure Bonham drunk simply because he was homesick. He drank all the time, even when he was back in the U.K. Bascially, Bonham was an alcoholic. I am sure life on the raod contributed to this, but I don't think it is the sole cause. (unsigned)
- Agreed. "He drank because he was homesick" is speculation. He drank at home, too, after all. Bcarlson33 04:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- According to Jimmy Page in MOJO magazine, Bonzo drank because he was homesick. Not while he was at home. Grymsqueaker 16:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
If Bonham "didn't drink at home".....how do you explain the fact that he died in the UK after consuming 40+ measures of vodka!!!
[edit] Nick Name
I do not think that the nickname "bonzo", used towards the end of the article, is appropriate for an encyclapedia such as this and i think it should be changed back to Bonham... anyone else agree?
- He was referred to as Bonzo often by the band members and fans. It seems like a logical thing to say.
He should be referred to as "Bonham" throughout the article, for consistency. Also, a regular encyclopedia wouldn't refer to him as "Bonzo"; neither should this one. Otherwise, it looks amateurish.4.247.143.48 05:47, 17 September 2006 (UTC)Deej
I agree. This is an encyclopaedia and therefore should aim to conform to professional editorial standards. Edelmand 02:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Those statements are ludicrous. Would you never refer to Billy Bonney as "Billy the Kid"? Any and every encyclopedia would. The same would go for the nickname "Bonzo". It was widely used to refer to Bonhm. Has nothing to do with professionalism. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.123.10.102 (talk) 04:29:39, August 19, 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bonham's death
I think there is something odd with the article: It says "On September 25, 1980, Bonham was picked up ..." and later "... After midnight, Bonham had fallen asleep and ..." and more later "... John Paul Jones found him dead the next morning."
So, if the official date of his death is September 25, wasn't he "Picked up" on September 24?
Guaruba 17:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
In that image of Bonham's gravesite, what is that little thing in front of the headstone called? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.113.190 (talk) 02:32, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] drum kit player
a "drum kit player"? that's fairly awkward phrasing, isn't it? Tremspeed 04:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I choose to disagree with citing him as "arguably rock's most influential drummer." That would be Neil Peart. He influenced WAY more people. Bonham was an average unexceptional drummer.
Please read the definition of "arguably". This IS an opinion but then considering anyones achievements against others in the same field when there is no set panel of judges demands the word "arguably". It does not hurt the reputation of either drummer. A Neil Peart fan should not take offense as neither should fans of Aynsley Dunbar, Carmine Appice or Ginger Baker. "That would be Neil Peart. He influenced WAY more people. Bonham was an average unexceptional drummer."...now that is a statement that defines the term "arguably".
[edit] People, everybody is arguably good at what they good at.
if you put "arguably" in this article, then we should put how every other musician who is regarded as very good at what they do, do it "arguably" 71.182.85.70 22:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- What a daft thing to edit war over. I removed the sentence. War is over! Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 22:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Regarding references and Bonhams recognition
I reverted back to an earlier version of the article and made some minor sentence changes as I feel that, currently, the three references provided in the lead section are sufficient and accurately reflect what is claimed. Does anyone disagree? Wisdom89 22:56, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Private life, marriage, children?
Shouldn't this article say something about his private life? There isn't even a mention that he is Jason's father. If I had the info I'd write it, but... Djiann 00:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- OK, I added a note about being Jason's father under Trivia. Djiann 22:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
yes, and who was the long suffering wife that presumably penned the headstone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.113.234.68 (talk) 11:10, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cremation
There is an inconsistency between this article and Led Zeppelin. One states he was cremated on 10th October, the other 12th October. Can someone please verify either way? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.174.159.109 (talk) 19:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tribute Kit
Is there a source for this? I'm pretty sure there have been more than 100 produced; Musician's Friend has them in stock as we speak: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ludwig-Amber-Vistalite-5Piece-Reissue-Drum-Set?sku=446400&CJAID=10381297&CJPID=2278521 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rambis (talk • contribs) 07:36, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Legacy Section
This page *really* needs a section on his legacy and how he influenced latter drummers and music in general.--Shniken1 (talk) 00:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
