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Contents 1 Trial Length 2 are they the same? 3 Translations 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Yu aboard a Goa'uld space station.jpg

[edit] Trial Length

There seems to be some discrepancy regarding the amount and length of the trials the Jade Emperor faces between the Origin of the Jade Emperor section and the Jade Emperor vanquishing Evil section. Were there 1,750 trials, each lasting 120,976 years, or 3,200 trials each lasting 3 million years? Pnkrockr 18:55, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

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It should be, because Yuk Wong is just the Cantonese pronounciation of Yu Huang (Mandarin).

[edit] are they the same?

I don't think so.

They are the same. Yuk Wong (Cantonese) is the same as Yu Huang (Mandarin)

[edit] Translations

Are these really good glosses for the characters given?

Grandpa Heaven (天公 Tiān Gōng) ... the Pure August Jade Emperor or August Personage of Jade (玉皇上帝 Yu Huang Shangdi or 玉皇大帝 Yu Huang Dadi)

天公: looks like "Duke of Heaven", but I can see where "grandpa" might be implied
玉皇上帝: looks "Jade Emperor the High God" to me
玉皇大帝: I would say "the Great Sovereign Jade Emperor" or "the Great August Jade Emperor"

Correct me if I'm wrong. - Nat Krause 20:31, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, they all mean and refer to the same thing for Chinese. In our language, there are many variants for an important figure like this Jade Emperor, since we have a habit of adding many nice words to the original name, a kind of expatiation. Like in "玉皇上帝" and "玉皇大帝", the words "上" and “大” mean no more than a symbolic thing, pointing to something supreme or lofty. And that's all. As for "天公", I don't think the English word 'duke' is a proper translation for this occasion though it does sometimes mean 'duke'. And the translation "Grandpa" sounds a little weird to me, too. Whenever I see 天公，I will make out a lofty, emperor-like man in my mind. But still, I have to say 'Grandpa' or 'Old Man' will be a good choice. Chrisliu (talk) 16:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Yu aboard a Goa'uld space station.jpg

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BetacommandBot 11:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)