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A description of the group putting forward these ideas and its history would be useful to place them in context. --pfh

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Surely this page falls into the last category?

I agree and have added a clean up tag - Solar 13:07, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Not only does the content currently there need to be placed in the context of a certain author or movement at the very least, but there are several bodies of thought that use the term differently -- I found this page through a link from the Theosophy page, and several Golden Dawn authors use it. A more comprehensive overview of the term and some similar concepts would be worthwhile. M.C. ArZeCh 11:05, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Would like to know who first coined the term "Higher Self"? Surely that info should be included in the article.

I think I saw somewhere in wiki that it was Alice Bailey (or at least Madame Blavatsky) who coined it, but I forget what page I was browsing.Julia Rossi 12:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I've commented on this before, but it does bear repeating: this article mentions at the top a variety of traditions which have some higher self concept, then proceeds to list "types of higher selves" never discussed in some of those traditions. Either this is someone's personal opinion, or it's from a very specific segment of literature on the subject. --M.C. ArZeCh 19:32, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


Aquarian Perspective


There is new information coming onto the plant which simplifies many past, and can I say, complicated knowledge over spiritual terms. I agree with the comments above, and have added a short definition on the Higher Self, and source, to the main page. Ginajr 04:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Quotes?

There are things in Comparisons and Summary that are indented as though they are quotes but don't indicate who they are quoting. RJFJR 17:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expert Verification

I removed the cleanup tag and tried to give the article a more encyclopedic tone. Unfortunately, I don't know much about the subject, and, as it has already been stated, it seems that this article represents only one view point. More insight is needed by those who know the subject (either specific to one area, or on a broad level). -Barkeep 14:19, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another model

I've added Max Freedom Long's version of the huna model. I stipulate MFL because not all modern huna agree with him either. There's also a transpersonal model so when I get time I'll put that in too. These ideas also seem to come from Indian buddhism, so more research there as well probably. Julia Rossi 12:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Second thoughts

The intro is nice and wiki, but on second thoughts the middle of this article needs wikified language and is only one model of the higher self. It has origins in the Atman of Hinduism and Buddhism appearing in mysticism as well, as an ultimate self. It could be a good article with more models of the hs, and if the middle section (with all its third, fourth and fifth densities) could be identified as one kind of belief – does anyone know what that is? On its own it's an unnamed unsupported (yet fascinating) construct. Julia Rossi 12:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


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