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[edit] Vi

everything about her seems to have been erased...

Erased? I don't seem to remember anything about a user named "Vi" typed anywhere in the article...
You seem to know a rather large amount about Hell.com... Care to help me? DiamondDragon contact 23:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Vi for violet

[edit] More Hints

To gain entry, you must access the .swf files.....

[edit] Various Stuff

One: Hell.com used to sell email addresses (@hell.com), until they announced in 2005 that they were going to shut down the email service. One has the option of paying $250 for a lifetime email account until October 2006.

Two: There is a Rosetta@home team that is from hell.com with the founder being listed as "cygnenoir", the alias of Kenneth Aronson. Another reference to the page being part of a net.art project.

Three: A whois lookup shows that Kenneth Aronson is the administrative and technical contact for hell.com Reverend Raven 21:25, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

I highly disagree that this page should be deleted.

In fact, I can't even see how there's any "vanity" in this page.

Hell.com is utterly undocumented, and is a very large, global network. There is absolutely no information about this site on the web, and yet there is plenty to know about it, even if much that an insider would know is not written here.

The article isn't original research - they are the facts known about the site (like facts known about Windows Vista), and hopefully more information can be added by people who've seen more of it, or even by a subscriber. However, setting up an article is essential. --Alfakim-- talk 00:48, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

From Wikipedia's official policy: "Limited content is not in itself a reason to delete if there is enough context to allow expansion." --Alfakim-- talk 00:52, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I didn't mark it for limited content, I did so because it seemed like an ad to me. The site itself isn't even navigable, for that matter. We'll let someone else decide now, I suppose. Lancer Sykera 00:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
When you say 'navigable', the site may not work in Mozilla - it certainly exists! As for its internal navigatability, there are about 10 pages you can access without employing further methods, and there is enough content to work on even there.
Furthermore, this isn't an advert in any way - how could it be! I'm not even a member of the site. It's a documentation on WHAT'S KNOWN about a very secretive global society. --Alfakim-- talk 01:02, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Personally, if this page isn't deleted, I think that rather than {{d}}, a template like {{expand}} would be more appropriate.

I don't see how this merits deletion. I've been on the hell.com waitlist for over 16 months. It is a real site and the current article, while a little bare, does off a decent introduction to the hell.com experience. --JohnO You found the secret writing! 01:27, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm against the deletion. helohe (talk) 09:34, 14 December 2005 (UTC)


I think this is exclusively advertising, and have taken it to AfD. You can discuss deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hell.com. UkPaolo/TALK 16:46, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

This article was nominated for deletion on December 14, 2005. The result of the discussion was keep. An archived record of this discussion can be found here.

For what it's worth, I came to wikipedia looking for information on hell.com, which I had just heard of as an interesting historical bit of the web. So, thanks for keeping the page. Please don't delete it! --Lizzard 03:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Verify?

What isn't verified? What does that mean? (Sorry, not seen this boilerplate before). --Alfakim-- talk 14:47, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

"receives millions of visitors daily" must be just so darn far from the truth. Alexa traffic is around the same as my site with some 300-500 visits on a normal day...

[edit] Hint

In order to progress, you need to find an angel--DragonFly31 22:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article's outdated

A random thought led me to check out hell.com today(in Firefox). All that are accessible(without extra methods) are two pages, the second of which attempts to close IE(it'll ask you if you want to; Firefox doesn't do anything). Most of the pages I found on a Google search no longer exist(including bat.hell.com). The only ones that remain are a login page, a short FAQ suggesting that it's an email service(serviced by everyone.net) and a contact page. I think it's safe to say that they're in the process of shutting the site down. With no new subscriptions allowed, all they have to do is wait for the current ones to run out. BioTube 00:16, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Theres 3 pages. They can only be accessed by IE. The first page shows an arrow, which when clicked, prompts you to a google search bar. If your using IE, then type hell, and it will bring you to a link going to Enigma_Angel's blog. My friend works on this website, and says the only way to get in is by hacking. --RedKlonoa

Another note: cybrport.com happens to be related somehow to hell.com. --RedKlonoa

bat.hell.com exists as well

--simonalexander2005

[edit] Starting cleanup and research

I've just discovered the mysterious HELL.com just a few months ago- and by looking at this article, it doesn't really clarify anything detailed about the site itself. Therefore, I take it upon myself to conduct a total rewrite and cleanup as well as vertifiable research. If anyone could help me, it would be very much appreciated.

Hopefully, when I get done, there will be some new light shed on this mystery.

And if you didn't know, I hate unsolved mysteries. DiamondDragon contact 01:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Something for the "what do you desire" page

http://web.archive.org/web/20060204020810/www.hell.com/l0/xit.html and a file: http://web.archive.org/web/20060204020810js_/http://www.hell.com/KA0S/ask.js

some extra keywords suggest that http://bat.hell.com/ does "Web design" and "programming"... As well as a "kenneth aronson", "conceptual strategist"... Is that anything? --202.40.137.202 05:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Continue exploring from web achieve

http://web.archive.org/web/19970206010310/http://www.hell.com/INVITE.html "the only way in is through membership. membership is given to selected people of proven talent who are willing and capable of adding something of merit to this private web.

if you are a a designer, programmer, game developer, conceptual artist, or hacker of extreme talent & you work in this medium. in order to be considered please submit a url as a sample of your work or a brief description of your qualifications to someone (someone@hell.com). " further proved that this is a company for design?--202.40.137.202 05:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

http://web.archive.org/web/19991127183236/http://hell.com/0/1/LIST/NOFAQ.html#r1 "Is this art?" "No."--202.40.137.202 05:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
http://web.archive.org/web/19991129024018/hell.com/0/EXHIBIT/MONTREAL.html 1999 event

[edit] Exactly what the tags means?

I know the cleanups.

I know the unverified.

But I don't know the factual accuracy disputed tag... Yeah, this thing is not perfect, but as it is not accessible for people who do not contribute to Hell.com, what can we say about the facts? Also it states that it's "the enigma on the web", aimed to create *ar - or alternative reality, all I can see here was text lines from what I see in the website, and given links here, I cannot see any dispute in accuracy, and actually cannot tell if this is the fact, so the tag itself is meaningless. --talk:202.71.240.18 07:37, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Change on the Site

Right now when you access the page, the header at the top says "HILLARY IS A LIAR". Should this be added to the Wiki page? The Umbrella Corporation (talk) 01:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Questions, answers, and information

http://0100101110101101.org/home/copies/hell.com/0/3/NOFRAMESET.html contains a LOT of information, most easily visible by viewing the source. 74.126.10.211 (talk) 01:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "sex" ?!?

why is this page text full of the "sex" word here and there in between other words? for example "contesexnt" intstead of "content" and so on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.50.154.214 (talk) 19:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


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