East Midlands derby

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Current Results
(Major Competitions Only)

From 79 games:

Derby County 27 Wins
Nottingham Forest 33 Wins
Draws 19

Last League Meeting

Feb 26, 2005:

Nottingham Forest	2-2	Derby County
Evans 36 (p)	H/T	Rasiak 12
G. Taylor 69	(1-1)	Rasiak 78

Football League Championship,
City Ground, Nottingham, England
Attendance: 26,160

Next Match

Date 2008:

TBC

Competition : The Championship
Venue ?

The East Midlands derby is a sobriquet used to describe football matches held between Derby County and Nottingham Forest. It was first held on October 1, 1892 at the Racecourse Ground in the Football League Division One, and saw Nottingham Forest win 3-2. The most recent meeting between the two was in the Brian Clough Trophy - a competition set up in memory of Brian Clough, the most successful manager at each club - at Pride Park, Derby in July 2007 which was won by Derby 2-0.

Although the clubs are rivals due to their geographical proximity - they are separated by just 14 miles - the rivalry was mainly a friendly one until the 1970s when Clough was appointed Forest manager, much to the dismay of the Derby support. According to a survey on football rivalries it is the 11th fiercest rivalry in English football, with 9 out of 10 fans from both clubs pointing to the other as their fiercest rival. ^[1]

The fixture will make a return to the league fixture list in 2008/09 in The Championship after Derby's relegation from the Premiership and Forest's promotion from League One.

1 History
2 Head To Head Record
3 Recent Meetings
4 Crossing The Divide
- 4.1 Management
- 4.2 Players
5 Records
6 Notable matches
7 Brian Clough Trophy
8 References
9 External links

[edit] History

The rivalry between the two clubs was not, initially, a great one. In the 1880s the city of Derby had two clubs, Derby County and Derby Junction, whilst Forest had Notts County as local rivals. Even when Derby Junction folded and became part of Derby County animosity between the two clubs went no further than friendly banter. The two clubs first met in 1892 following Forest's election to the Football League that same year when it was expanded to two divisions in size after four years as a one tier setup. Forest has formed in 1865, 19 years before Derby, but had elected to join the Football League's rival, the Football Alliance, instead in 1889-90. There winning of the Alliance title in the 1891-92 season ensured they were voted into the First Division when the two leagues where merged in 1892. The fixture was held at least twice a season from 1892 until 1906, when Forest were relegated. Due to the two world wars, and the fact both clubs had a habit of enjoying success at different times, they jointly contested in only 6 league seasons (or 12 matches) for the next 64 years, all of which came in Division Two, with an additional four meetings coming in the FA Cup.

In the past 38 seasons, since the fixture returned onto the First Division fixture list in the 1969/70 season, meetings have been slightly more common, though not as common as the Merseyside, or Manchester derbies. Both clubs have jointly contested 16 league seasons, 12 in the Top Flight and a further four in the second tier.

The rivalry has it is known today really developed in the 1970s when former Derby manager Brian Clough took over at Forest, much to the anger of the Derby fans. This, alongside the fact that Forest fans do not see Notts County as a genuine threat as they have traditionally occupied the bottom two tiers of English football whilst Forest the upper two, lit the torch between the two supporters and there has been a bitter rivalry ever since. Both Derby and Forest fans have a large hatred for each other, and on a number of times have clashed. One famous incident occurred in the 1980s when, after a game, Derby hooligans teamed up with Leicester City (who also have a strong dislike for Forest) to ruin Nottingham city centre and confront the Forest fans. Over 60 fans from all sides were arrested. The two sets of supporters did, however, put there differences aside to commemorate their former manager Brian Clough in a special memorial service at Derby's Pride Park Stadium following his death on September 20, 2004. The two met in the Championship just 6 weeks later in an emotional match which saw Derby win 3-0, their biggest win over Forest in 25 years.

[edit] Head To Head Record

[edit] Major Competitions

The clubs have met 79 times in all Major competitions, 72 times in the Football League, 6 times in the FA Cup and once in the League Cup.

Competition	Played	Derby County	Draw	Nottingham Forest	Derby County Goals	Nottingham Forest Goals
League	72	24	18	30	111	116
FA Cup	6	3	1	2	8	5
League Cup	1	0	0	1	1	2
Totals	79	27	19	33	120	123

[edit] Minor Competitions

There have also been a further 26 meetings in various minor competitions of varying importance. The majority of these have come in Wartime competitions, such as the Wartime Cup and the regionalised Football Leagues, set up during WWI and WWII to keep football running during the conflicts. There was also one meeting in the Anglo-Italian Cup

Competition	Played	Derby County	Draw	Nottingham Forest	Derby County Goals	Nottingham Forest Goals
Anglo-Italian Cup	1	1	0	0	3	2
Brian Clough Trophy	1	1	0	0	2	0
Football League (N)	6	3	1	2	15	12
Football League (S)	2	1	1	0	4	3
Midland Section	4	1	0	3	7	13
United Central League	4	2	1	1	6	2
VE Celebration Match	1	0	1	0	2	2
VJ Celebration Match	1	1	0	0	4	1
Football League War Cup	6	3	2	1	10	8
Totals	26	13	6	7	53	43

[edit] All Competitions

Competition	Played	Derby County	Draw	Nottingham Forest	Derby County Goals	Nottingham Forest Goals
Major Competitions	79	27	19	33	120	123
Minor Competitions	26	13	6	7	53	43
Totals	105	40	25	40	173	166

[edit] Recent Meetings

Since the formation of the Premier League in 1992/93 the East Midlands Derby has been held 14 times, the most recent of which saw Derby win 2-0 draw at Pride Park on 31 July 2007 for the Brian Clough Trophy. The most recent league meeting was a 2-2 draw at the City Ground during the 2004/05 season. Since then Nottingham Forest have been in League One (the third tier of the English football league system) whilst Derby have been in The Championship (the second tier) and, during the 2007/08 season, the Premiership (the first tier). These last fourteen meetings have seen 5 wins for Derby (the most recent the 2-0 win at Pride Park in the Brian Clough Trophy), 7 draws and 2 wins for Forest (the most recent a 3-0 Championship win at the City Ground on March 19, 2003.) The last top flight meeting between the two clubs was on April 10, 1999 at Pride Park, where Horacio Carbonari's late goal gave Derby a 1-0 win.

Arguably the most notable fixture between the two clubs over the last 15 years came on March 20, 2004 at the Pride Park Stadium, which Derby won 4-2. Both clubs were battling to avoid the drop into League One at the time, which ensured much media attention regarding the ailing fortunes of the two most prominent clubs in the career of the legendary Brian Clough. It was the highest scoring encounter between the clubs since 1970 and was also memorable for 'The Coffee Cup Incident'^[2] . As the ball travelled back to Forest keeper Barry Roche, it struck a coffee cup and bobbled up, causing Roche to slice it neatly into the path of Paul Peschisolido, who took full advantage to put the ball into an empty net and put Derby 2-0 up. The fixture will make a return to the league fixture list in 2008/09 in The Championship after Derby's relegation from the Premiership and Forest's promotion from League One.

The total record over the past 15 years reads -

Competition	Played	Derby County	Draw	Notttingham Forest	Derby Goals	Forest Goals
League	12	3	7	2	19	14
Anglo-Italian Cup	1	1	0	0	3	2
Brian Clough Trophy	1	1	0	0	2	0
Totals	14	5	7	2	24	16

[edit] Crossing The Divide

Since WWII some 30 players have played for both clubs, the majority of these moves coming in the 1970s/80s. The most famous individual to have represented both clubs, however, is unquestionably the man regarded as the greatest manager in the history of both - Brian Clough.

[edit] Management

The first man to be involved in management at both clubs was Harold Wightman. A player with Derby between 1919 and 1927, Wightman was assistant at Derby under George Jobey and was later appointed Forest manager between 1936 and 1939.
The first man to be the actual manager at both clubs was Dave Mackay. Mackay, who managed Forest between 1972 and 1973, joined Derby in 1973 as the replacement for the man who would eventually become the second man to manage both clubs Brian Clough. Clough, who managed Derby between 1967 and 1973, joined Forest partway through the 1975-76 season, following spells with Brighton and the famous 42 days in charge at Leeds Utd. Clough took over from Mackay's initial replacement Allan Brown, with Forest struggling in Division Two. In just 3 unprecedented years, Clough led Forest to the 1978-79 European Cup, the highest domestic honour in European football, after earning the Second Division title in his first full season (1976-77) and the First Division title at the first attempt (1977-78). He won the First Division with both Forest and Derby, becoming the first man to win it with two different clubs since Herbert Chapman.He left the club in 1993.
The only other man to be managerial involved with both clubs was Clough's ertswhile assistant Peter Taylor. Taylor, who was Clough's assistant at Hartlepool, Derby, Brighton and Forest, left the partnership in 1982 to take over as Derby's new manager.

[edit] Players

Since the Second World War some 30 different players have represented both Derby and Forest. The majority of these movements came in the 1970s/80s, when Clough signed many of his former Derby players for his new club Forest.

However, the first notable move was Scottish left winger Stewart Imlach who, after an unsuccessful spell at Derby in the 1954-55 season signed for Forest for a fee of £5,000 in 1955. He went on to play in the Forest side that beat Luton Town in the 1959 FA Cup Final. The next direct transfer between the two clubs was Alan Hinton. Hinton spent four years at Forest between 1963-67 before Clough signed him for £30,000. Forest had seen Hinton as a fairly uninspiring player and a number of Forest directors were known to have smugly put it about that Derby would “soon be asking for their money back”. They were proved wrong when Hinton played 253 times for the Rams over the next 8 years, scoring 63 goals and winning two League Titles. Other Forest to Derby transfers in the late 60s/early 70s saw Terry Hennessey and Henry Newton join Derby directly from Forest and Frank Wignall make the move with a spell with Wolves in between. All of these players made telling contributions to Derby’s regular triumphs from 1969 to 1975. Following Clough’s move to Forest in 1975 he signed many of his former Derby players for the Reds. Both John O'Hare and John McGovern initially followed Clough to Leeds in 1974 before joining him at Forest, twice lifting the European Cup. Archie Gemmill joined Forest directly from Derby in 1977 and Colin Todd joined Forest in 1982, four years after leaving the Rams. What is notable about the Gemmill transfer is he rejoined Derby in 1982 (3 years after ending his term with Forest) becoming the only player to resign for one side of the divide after playing for the other, on a full term basis at least. Charlie George, a Mackay signing who played for Derby between 1975-78, joined Forest on loan from Southampton in 1980, before re-signing for Derby for 11 games in 1982.

Going in the other direction, three of Forest’s European Cup winners joined Derby. The most famous is Peter Shilton who left Forest for Southampton in 1982 and joined Derby for a five year spell between 1987 and 1992. The most infamous was John Roberston. Robertson was signed by Peter Taylor in 1983 in a highly contested transfer, which eventually went to tribunal. Clough felt his old mate had pulled off an underhand deal, and the two former partners fell out, never to reconcile their differences before Taylor’s death in Majorca in October 1990. The other former European Cup winning Red to join Derby was Kenny Burns, who spent a year at Derby between 1984-85. All three of these players signed for Derby at a time when Forest’s great successes were still fresh and the Rams were in the wilderness.

Since then there have been few high profile players who have played for both clubs. Those who have include goalkeepers John Middleton and Steve Sutton, defenders Gary Charles, Gary Mills and Darren Wassall, midfielders Steve Hodge, Glyn Hodges, Darryl Powell and Lars Bohinen and forwards Mikkel Beck and, most notably, forward Dean Saunders. On May 30, 2008 Rob Earnshaw became the first player to move directly between the two clubs for 15 years (since Gary Charles in 1993) when he agreed to a £2.65m deal to join Forest from the Rams less than a year after moving to Pride Park. The move was followed three days later by Forest winger Kris Commons moving to Pride Park, though he was released by Forest first meaning he did not move directly between the two clubs.

[edit] Records

The following records are based solely on meeting in major competitions :

The record home victory in a league match is 5-0 recorded by Derby County at The Baseball Ground on April 11, 1898.
The record away victory in a league match is 6-2 recorded by Nottingham Forest, again at the Baseball Ground, on November 14, 1903.
The highest scoring match saw 8 goals when Forest won 6-2 at the Baseball Ground on November 14, 1903.
Steve Bloomer of Derby County holds the mark for the most derby goals with 26 between 1892 and 1912.
Record Attendance: 62, 017 at Crystal Palace for the 1897-98 FA Cup Final on April 16, 1898, which Forest won 3-1.
Record League Attendance: 42, 074 at The City Ground on March 14, 1970, which Derby won 3-1.
Lowest Attendance: an estimated 3,000 at Baseball Ground on April 20, 1899, a match which Derby won 2-0

[edit] Notable matches

The most notable meeting between Derby and Forest came in 1898 when the two contested the 1897/98 Cup Final at Crystal Palace, a match which saw Nottingham Forest run out 3-1 victors to take the cup for the first time.
Another notable FA Cup meeting came when Forest drew Derby in the 3rd Round at The Baseball Ground on January 8, 1983. Clough's Forest where twice European Champions and one of the countries premier clubs whilst Derby where now a struggling Division Two club and under the management by Clough's long term former right hand man, Peter Taylor. Derby famously won 2-0.

Other notable meetings include

First Meeting & First Nottingham Forest Win - 1892/93 in Football League Division One - Derby County 2 - 3 Nottingham Forest, October 1, 1892
First Derby County Win - 1894/95 in Football League Division One - Derby County 4-2 Nottingham Forest, September 8, 1894
First Hat trick - 1895/96 in Football League Division One by Steve Bloomer, Nottingham Forest 2 - 5 Derby County
First Draw - 1896/97 in Football League Division One - Derby County 1 - 1 Nottingham Forest, September 5, 1896
Biggest Home Win - 1897/98 in Football League Division One - Derby County 5 - 0 Nottingham Forest, April 11, 1897
First FA Cup Meeting - 1897/98 in FA Cup Final - Derby County 1 - 3 Nottingham Forest, April 16, 1897
Biggest Away Win & Highest Scoring Game - 1903/04 in Football League Division One - Derby County 2 - 6 Nottingham Forest, November 14, 1903
Most Recent Derby Win away at Forest - 1971/72 in Football League Division One - Nottingham Forest 0 - 2 Derby County, October 30, 1971
First League Cup Meeting - 1985/86 in Football League Cup 3rd Round - Derby County 1 - 2 Nottingham Forest, October 30, 1985
Most Recent Forest Win at Derby - 1993/94 in Football League Division One - Derby County 0-2 Nottingham Forest, April 27, 1994

[edit] Brian Clough Trophy

See the Brian Clough Trophy Article

In 2007 it was decided that whenever the two teams played in the league or in a cup tie the Brian Clough Trophy, in memory of the man who had great success at both clubs, would be awarded to the winner. The inaugral match was held at Pride Park in July 2007 which Derby won 2-0.