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Talk:Drone music

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Drone music is within the scope of WikiProject Music genres, a user driven attempt to clean up and standardise music genre articles on Wikipedia. Please visit the project guidelines page for ideas on how to structure a genre article and help us assess and improve genre articles to good and 1.0 standards.
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[edit] Notability

Is this a real genre? Is it notable? Genres seem not be covered by Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/Notability and Music Guidelines. Hyacinth 23:51, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The genre does in fact exist, although it has a rather small following. I find most of the fans tend to be people in search music that tests the limits of the notion of music (and so do the bands, perhaps I should mention that). Anyway, the bands tour, the labels press records (other major experimental labels, like Kranky, also put stuff out), and some -- particularly Stars of the Lid -- have a surprisingly large following. Here's some anectodal evidence of their existence: something at VH1.com, Amazon.com, Last.fm. And it is also listed as a genre on the major indie music website epitonic. Admittedly, it is a rather niche genre, but I feel it is a distinct genre (unlike things like "post-math-metal-goth-core" or "neo-baroque-pop-adult-contemporary" and things of that nature); it's just less sought after. If you want to google/research it for more evidence of its existence, search under the term drone rather than dronology, as it is used much more often, though the term dronology is the origin. Anyway, I don't have time at the moment to read the guidelines for genres (I will when I get back from class), but I would like to first say that simply because it is difficult to get information on this genre, its existence is justified. While unpopular, the genre has a great number of potential followers. As anecdotal evidence of this, I do a weekly radio show from 20:00-24:00 CST, and a few weeks ago I had to do some maintainance on the equipment so I brought in the lengthier music tracks I own -- which tend to be dronology. I hadn't played these tracks before because I have otherwise considered the genre to be unfit mass popular consumption, but I got so many calls asking me what this music was and where people could find out more about it and get copies of it that I didn't have time to get the work done I had intended to. The following week, I had more requests for drone and more questions about where to find it. That said, I'll read the guidelines in a couple hours and try to make a more objective evaluation about the legitimacy of its inclusion given my new understanding of those guidelines, but for now I feel it ought bee included. I would appreciate your feedback, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jxn (talkcontribs) 16:16, 10 March 2005
Thanks for the response. Please Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Hyacinth 19:24, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
To rephrase my question, we need to indicate notability in the article: What would let an entirely ignorant reader know that this is a distinct and notable genre, and not just a technique? Of course "drone" shows up a lot more, that is the technique used. Hyacinth 20:37, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Since I'm asking, and you appear knowledgable: What are the limits of this genre? Why are the artists listed at drone not included? Hyacinth 20:37, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Dronology is a genre? It sounds like someone is playing with humour, I guess that drone music is the legitimate term for this style; I will remove the word dronology and replace it with drone music in a few days if none will oppose. Also, the right title for the article could be Drone (music); I mean that putting such parentheses maybe will prevent unuseful edit wars in the future. --Doktor Who 10:49, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Oppose, with exception noted below:
  • "Dronology" is much in use too (Google it, and please document yourself before calling something humour and deleting it) and thus needs to remain namechecked in the lead. However, you're right that it should probably be removed from the *rest* of the article (except the external link sourcing it, of course). P.S.: I've gone and done it.
  • As a rule of thumb, articles are titled "<genre> music" (such as Ambient music, Hip hop music, Heavy metal music, etc.) so I see no reason to change the current name Drone music again.
  • Besides, Drone (music) is already a different article, following its own correct naming scheme. Please also note that those curvy signs are parentheses, not "commas".
-- 62.147.113.193 15:51, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Opps, yes I know those are parentheses or brackets, sorry, when I was about to check my text my O.S. crashed. Anyway, in my humble opinion, dronology literally means "study of drones or Remotely operated vehicles", in other terms a branch of robotics. I do not regard websites (and Wikipedia) as a primary source for the search of the Truth. Anyway, I don't like to take part in discussions regarding musical genres becouse most of web is trash on this matter, so I will no further waste my time. Every web editor can create a new word and post it in some way in a suitable number of sites so that Google will pick it in a few weeks or days. Dronology possibly was the name of an album and then some geniuses decided to create a new "genre"? Just asking, I am not an expert in "music genres" .--Doktor Who 20:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Genrebox1

I've put up a generebox on a user subpage for testing and am asking of others can help me fill in the blanks'.

User talk:Tainted Angel/Dronology genrebox test

I will so so as I can, but I'm off the read the guidelines first. Thank you for the assistance.

[edit] It needs to be re-edited

This article is just a mess. Earlier versions of it were surely better than this latter ones. Pink Floyd have never had nothing to do with Ambient music, and this is just an example. The word "drone" has been extensively used even on Brian Eno's 1970s albums only to specify the use of "soundscapes" usually obtained mixing various noises and synths chords, having no melodic progression (its even used on his collaborations works, such as David Bowie's ones). Brian Wilson 23:46, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

"never had nothing"?

[edit] The context, the content, the style, the techniques

please read my contribution at the WikiProject Music genres page. Thank you. Brian Wilson 14:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


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