- Eric Violette (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)
Concerns about recriminatory deletion, hasty deletion of justifiable entry Kallahan (talk) 05:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC) Page was about the lead singer of a fictional band appearing on nationwide TV and radio commercials for a website FreeCreditReport.com. Page was flagged by an administrator who has on his watch lists pages that I've recommended should be merged. User in question is opposed to those mergers. Within hours of said recommendations, speedy deletion was put onto the Violette page, which I had initiated, by the User. Within three hours of that time, the page was deleted despite my protests and despite my justifications for notability on multiple counts, as Violette is a stage actor, TV actor, and musician. Moreover, Yahoo Answers has on its site a request for Violette's identity, meaning that people are searching out this information. As a relative newcomer I feel like I am getting blowback for what I thought - and for which I'm receiving support for on those pages - were reasonable suggestions of merger, the pages I've created being made victim by a judge, jury, and deleter, when such hasty action was not justifiable under the circumstances, which as I've described are to me suspect.
- Eric Violette is a French-Canadian actor best known for his role as the lead singer of a fictional band featured in a series of popular FreeCreditReport.com commercials, starting in 2007. He has also appeared in various stage plays during his career. has no claims of notability. The only sources were to the freecreditreport.com and the actor's own website. No claims of notability, no reliable sources. Endorse deletion. Corvus cornixtalk 06:11, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Endorse. Didn't really make A7, since the article did assert some sort of importance, but it'd never make it through an AfD in that condition. Easiest fix is to recreate the page with more content rather than bringing it here; CSD doesn't preclude recreation. Might be useful to include a little more about the plays he appeared in and what roles he played, as well as his specific role in the commercials. Some reliable sources would also be nice, but not required for A7. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 14:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - Claims of "recriminatory deletion" or "hasty deletion" on my part are just obfuscation from this "new" editor; the deletion logs clearly show that a different admin processed this article, or as this "new" editor put it, served as "judge, jury, and deleter." --Kralizec! (talk) 17:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Reply - Kralizec! created Super Duper Tuesday and has been editing Super Tuesday and Mini-Tuesday, and the notion that my suggestion -- yesterday -- that those three articles be merged into one article had nothing to do with Kralizec!'s move against my article is patently ridiculous. And is Kralizec! asserting that because I figured out the means to defend myself against him by finding this forum, that I cannot in fact be a "new" editor?
- As a "new" editor you certainly have an amazing grasp on Wiki code as well as Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I also find it interesting that when you "figured out the means to defend" yourself via WP:DRV, you ignored the instructions that said "before listing a review request, attempt to discuss the matter with the admin who deleted the page" and instead brought it straight to DRV complete with a {{Delrev}} on my talk page ... almost as if you were attempting to embarrass me. You may or may not be an axe-grinding sock of some user I banned, but you certainly seem to be following that modus operandi. Likewise I am sorry if you view the deletion nomination of "your article" as a bad faith move on my part, but as an admin, removing cruft is part of my job, and yours is just one of thirty-odd pages I have either deleted or nominated for deletion in the past dozen days. --Kralizec! (talk) 18:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- You don't have to be a veteran to Google "contest deletion Wikipedia" [1]. Moreover your suggestion that I'm a sock puppet whose original user you previously victimized is pretty daring, since it's you that initiated this proceeding and not I. Kallahan (talk) 19:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
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- Endorse deletion. Claims of recriminatory deletion and retaliatory sockpuppets aside, the fact is, this was an extremely clear case of "an article about a real person that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant." Suggest you rewrite the article, citing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject," rather than squabbling at DRV. --Stormie (talk) 01:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Endorse deletion criminal sock what? Anyway, the article does not assert the notability outlined in WP:N. Lead singer of a fictional band in a television commercial??? JERRY talk contribs 05:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
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