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[edit] Name
- The event run by Comiket, Inc. seems to be most preferentially called Comic Market. According to the schedule for the venue, Tokyo Big Sight, the event is Comic Market. Comiket, Inc. itself has registered three trademarks, "Comic Market," "Comiket," and "Comike." Colloquially to a Japanese speaker, the three syllable "Comike" comes out most easily. It's probably the most difficult for an English speaker to pronounce. I shouldn't say never, but "CM" isn't one of the common ways to refer to Comic Market. Is this an anglicism that Comic Market itself is oblivious to? A more common shorthand is "C67" to refer to the 67th Comic Market.
- I agree that "CM" is not commonly used to refer to Comic Market. In fact, if you use this term when speaking to a person living in Japan, it would cause confusion as "CM" (said as a word, sounds like "shi-emu") means "Commercial Message" in Japanese vernacular. (as in those advertisements seen on television) I think this should be removed from the entry. I don't mind referring to Comic Market as "CM" throughout the entry, just the stating of it being a common abbreviation. --202.216.127.39 04:50, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- Comic Market is not a convention in the American sense. If a convention is about the gathering of people to:
- Discuss common interests
- Meet famous people
- Get autographs
- Participate in scheduled events
- Then Comic Market offers none of them. Comic Market is just a gather to buy and sell dojinshi, or a huge swap meet in other words.
- There's been no counting of how many people attend Comic Market for all 2-3 days, but remember that attendance figure is estimate given in attendee-days. It's not by unique headcount, not that it may matter that much.
- In recent years, summer Comic Market has mostly been a 3-day event, while winter Comic Market has been 2 or 3 days, going onto 3 full days (Winter Comic Market 2004 is 2 days). Comic Market is not full a 3-day event, for now.
- Up until recent years when Comic Market made it a high profile agenda to educate its participants, tax evasions by major and minor dojinshi publishers was rampant. When you consider that some major dojinshi publishers were counting on Comic Market sales to finance their livelihood, you do realize that for some, Comic Market was all about selling massive amounts of dojinshi for profit.
- While the vast majority of Comic Market staffers are volunteers, there is a handful of Comiket, Inc. people who make their living off Comic Market. This does not negate the fan nature of Comic Market, but it also shows that the need for a profitable Comic Market is also there.
- In a not-at-all-secret effort to create de facto legitimacy from the anime, manga, and game industries ("dojinshi = illegitimate exploitation of intellectual property"), Comic Market started to solicit for corporate booths a few years ago. It's been a resounding success, and companies now voraciously market and sell merchandise at Comic Market. The notion that corporate manga publishers are not allowed to participate in Comic Market is obsolete by at least 5 years.
- The ban on cosplay photo taking going into effect in 2005 should be for unregistered cameras.--Outis 11:41, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- What is the source on the cosplay photo ban? The official website doesn't have any mention of it.
- Comic Market's official website doesn't say much compared to the rules spelled out in the catalog. The rules in the catalog is but a subset of the rules listed in the cosplayer's handbook and the photographer's handbook they distribute at site. That's still not everything compared to the things a staffer will tell you orally.--Outis 08:35, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Curiosity Question
Why is the print directory a "Not-to-bring" item? Where did this...practice come from? Trent Arms 06:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
My answer: When I originally wrote the beginning portions of the CM FAQ (before contributing the condensed version to Wikipedia) I had a few Comikes under my belt. My feeling was that adequate preparation should be done ahead of time using the catalog at home to make maps, etc. to avoid lugging it around the convension (in addition to the doujinshi one would presumably purchase.) Obviously, there is no right or wrong to attending a convention - but having done both, I felt this was an appropriate decision. Ben Her 09:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lining up
Just wondering...the article references the supposed ban on lining up for the convention is forbidden, but is this actually enforced? I only have 2 Comike under my belt, both in 2004, but while we were all aware that our lining up like that was technically against the law, there was no enforcement (hell, if anything, there was full co-operation) of that by the police or by the convention staff. Or is this ban just on lining up on the days before the event, as suggested later on in the article? That much I suppose would make sense, seeing that the lines didn't seem to build or get organised until around midnight on either event. --Mukashi 03:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- According to a staffer I talked to at this year's event, "It's a big island." They have security guards who will shoo people away from Big Sight itself until about 6:30AM, but as far as the rest of Odaiba, they can't stop people from lying in wait. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.102.39.179 (talk) 02:13, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Genshiken?
Given that Comiket features heavily in the manga/anime series Genshiken, does it deserve a mention under a heading of "Comiket in Popular Culture"? David Bailey (talk) 13:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
