Talk:Climate of North Carolina

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	Climate of North Carolina has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
March 14, 2008 Good article nominee Listed

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Contents 1 General review 2 Good article nomination on hold 3 Image for future use 4 Successful good article nomination

[edit] General review

While I can't really review this article for GA, since I contributed portions of it, I think the stubby sections concerning Spring and Fall are going to be problematic. Adding detail, such as when the low level wedge (cool with low clouds and drizzle within an easterly flow regime) finally gives up for the spring (if there's a reference) or first becomes a problem in the fall, when advection fog is a concern across the state due to the advection of high dew point air over cool near shore SSTs between fall and spring, or when severe weather is most expected across the state (whether it is spring, summer, or fall) could be useful in filling out the season portions of the article. Also, every time a certain weather event is mentioned with specifics, an inline reference should be included whether or not there is a wikipedia article created concerning the event (i.e. the 2000 and 1989 references within the snow section). Thegreatdr (talk) 21:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll add stuff to those sections. Do you think we should get rid of some of the info about notable storms in the snow section? It doesn't seem neccesary to me and to be honest, is somewhat confusing. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 22:34, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

No harm mentioning the most important snowfall in there. You can always create a separate article on Notable snowstorms in North Carolina with all the info currently in the climate article. Thegreatdr (talk) 03:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

One thing I didn't mention before was the reference format at the bottom. For GA, it needs to be consistent. In other words, pick either ref or cite web and stick with it. Also, the way it appears on the page needs to be consistent. This would mean that if an author is listed for one reference, it would need to be listed for all references. Same deal with article names and retrieval dates. Thegreatdr (talk) 10:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Done --Mr.crabby (Talk) 15:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good article nomination on hold

This article's Good Article promotion has been put on hold. During review, some issues were discovered that can be resolved without a major re-write. This is how the article, as of March 9, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Pass

2. Factually accurate?: Needs just a couple more citations

3. Broad in coverage?: Needs info on severe weather

4. Neutral point of view?: Pass

5. Article stability? Pass

6. Images?: Pass

Overall, very near to Good Article criteria, just needs a few tweaks. I know Thegreatdr has been over this above, but you need to include info about severe weather activity in the state.

Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. After 48 hours the article should be reviewed again. If these issues are not addressed within 7 days, the article may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work so far. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 03:37, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I think we also need an actual section about precipitation across NC. In the most recent version, the rainfall section only talked about tropical cyclone rainfall, so I moved it into the hurricane section. A general section regarding rainfall/precipitation distribution on an annual basis within NC appears to be needed. Thegreatdr (talk) 16:31, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

That is a good idea, but also a severe weather section is needed. Otherwise, it looks really nice. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 16:52, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Resolved the rainfall/precipitation dilemna. The weather section generally covered precipitation, so renamed it precipitation, and split hurricane out of the section to make it a higher tier header. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:12, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I think I like dr's layout better than the old one. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 20:35, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

If you'd like me to continue helping, we have to come to a decision regarding convert templates. Are we using them, or are we not? I was under the impression that the consistent use of convert templates was good for GA passage. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe that convert templates should be used in all articles where there is a need. Since I am the one reviewing this, I believe for a GA you need convert templates. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 20:51, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

That is great to know, since you're reviewing it. =) There is one place where a convert template cannot be used. There is a line concerning temperature differences in F (a temperature rise of bla bla F). Since the base of the F and C scales are not aligned (meaning 0C does not equal 0F), as far as I know, a convert template can't be used in that line. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:00, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

That's fine, I can't think of anything to do with that either. Still waiting on the severe weather section. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 21:17, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image for future use

The annual average rainfall map for North Carolina is downloadable from a .gov source. The link is http://www.nationalatlas.gov/printable/images/preview/precip/pageprecip_nc3.gif, in case the precipitation section ever gets large enough for its inclusion. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:33, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Successful good article nomination

I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of March 14, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Pass

2. Factually accurate?: Pass

3. Broad in coverage?: Pass, maybe more content in "Severe weather" section, if it is found

4. Neutral point of view?: Pass

5. Article stability? Pass

6. Images?: Pass

Great job improving the article. Sorry I didn't review it earlier. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.— Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 18:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your time. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 20:30, 14 March 2008 (UTC)