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Contents 1 Wikipedians who are Old Cliftonians 2 Alumni 3 OC 4 Zoo land? 5 Zoo entrance 6 Notable events at Clifton (1979-1989) 7 Fees & charitable status 8 The Union 9 Fair use rationale for Image:Clifton college logo.png

[edit] Wikipedians who are Old Cliftonians

If any Wikipedians are OC's they might want to add [[Wikipedians by alma mater: Clifton College]] to the bottom of their user page. Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 14:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alumni

Walter Owen Bentley (founder of Bentley cars) should be added to alumini

I will check my book of old boys to see what's listed Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 06:59, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OC

some body should add Roger Alton to the Alumini list- he is the current editor of the observer

(header added by Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...))

[edit] Zoo land?

Bristol Zoo is between the college and Clifton Down, on land originally belonging to the college

But the Bristol Zoo article says that the zoo opened in 1836, long before the college was founded. Something wrong here? Loganberry (Talk) 02:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Probably a different initial site - College boys get into the Zoo for a nominal entry fee as a result Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 16:31, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

It's hard to tell from the zoo's official site's history page - the plan given dates from 1886 - but there's nothing in the accompanying text to indicate a chnage of site. Furthermore, goodzoos.com has the following to say in its historical section:

[Gardens designer Richard] Forrest's designs for the gardens, the large central lake, the expansive lawns, and the siting of enclosures around a perimeter wall all remain very largely unchanged to the present day, and a century and a half later [my emphasis], visitors would almost certainly recognise the zoo from nineteenth century plans.

That section strongly implies that the zoo has been on its current site since the 1830s - so again we come back to the zoo being in situ well before the college was founded. I certainly don't doubt your assertion of reduced-price entry for pupils, but if the zoo was indeed there before the college it would seem that there must be a slightly more complex reason than that currently given in the text of this article. Loganberry (Talk) 01:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I will email the College and ask them - as they should know! Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 06:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! As another possibility, though: my mother (brought up in Clifton) tells me that she thinks she was told by her father (ie my grandfather, who taught at the College) that the reduced-price admission has to do with the College allowing its car parks to be used as overflow for the zoo on busy days. I don't have any actual documentation of that, though. Loganberry (Talk) 11:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Not heard of that one - and am not sure what car parks these would be - never remember this from when I was there! Still not had a reply from the College to my email. Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 12:44, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Maybe she meant using other land as car parks? Anyway, if you don't get a reply I could try asking the zoo. Loganberry (Talk) 13:10, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

The College has come back to me and said that they didn't used to own the Zoo site - have updated the page to reflect this incorrect College folk-lore! Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 14:49, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zoo entrance

When I was at Clifton (1979-1989) you could only obtain a reduction to the zoo entry fee if you were in uniform or had your school tie with you.

We needed our blue book Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 14:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable events at Clifton (1979-1989)

Stonehenge built in benches from the parapet on the Close by sixth form leavers in 1989. A School House attempt to release debris from a hatch in the roof of Big School during an end of term concert. A harrier jump jet low-level flyby at the 1988 Horsen Ford CCF summer camp. The sad death of Jim Hornby (much-loved and -respected Headmaster of Clifton Preparatory School) Prep school films changing from Jaws II to Bedknobs and Broomsticks at the onset of political correctness. Peter "Doc" Clay's recounting of the seminal "Skull Island" story. The fight between Mr Cowan and Mr Dixon. Stuart Andrews (Headmaster of the Upper School) taking on pupils in pillow fights at the School House fete. The scandal that followed someone making rabbit's ears over the Marshal's head in the 1987 school photo. Somebody losing the tip of a finger after slamming it in the door of the fives court. Chris Cottrell's unerring accuracy with a board rubber. Tony Cottrell's staff plays. The 1987 and 1990 expeditions to the High Arctic. The introduction of co-education in 1987 and the protests from boys whose Houses were taken over. The wall of hymn books that completely blocked the entrance to the Chapel.

[edit] Fees & charitable status

The paragraph below is clearly both irrelevant to this specific article and written from a definite POV. I've moved it here in the hope that someone can clean it up and find a home for it. Richard Pinch 20:01, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

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Like all other English public schools, Clifton's excellent facilities come at the price of substantial fees. A number of scholarships are available. Like most public schools, Clifton College is recognised as a charity, and as such receives substantial tax breaks. It was calculated by David Jewell, master of Haileybury, that in 1992 that these savings represent an investment from general taxation of about £1,945 per pupil per year - some £200 a year more than the state invested in the education of a child at primary school [1]. This subsidy has declined after the 2001 abolition of State-funded scholarships (formerly known as "assisted places") to public school by the Labour government. It is estimated that the UK's 1,300 [2] public schools continue to benefit from over £100M in State tax breaks, highlighted by an ongoing campaign by figures such as Fiona Miller [3].

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[edit] The Union

In 2005, some of the Upper Sixth created a pupil-run newspaper, 'The Union'. The founding editor was Thomas Ingraham (WaH) and his successor was Luke Fear (WaH). The publication became bigger and in 2006, three of the writers for the newspaper (William Hanson, Ashley Coates & George Greenbury) decided to start a podcast: 'The Union Podcast'. The podcast contained sketches and monologues about school life at Clifton and it received much praise. To date, three episodes have been released and all can be found on the school's intranet or on the iTunes Music Store. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brookie (talk • contribs) 16:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Clifton college logo.png

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