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[edit] CBS ≠ Columbia Broadcasting System
I'd like to point out that CBS has not been Columbia Broadcasting System since 1974. Officially, the letters no longer stand for anything (see servicemark registration). I would make these changes but there is another problem.
According to Britannica ([1]) and Encarta ([2]) Westinghouse bought CBS and renamed itself to CBS Corporation. Sometime after that it became CBS Broadcasting, Inc. while Viacom is renaming itself to CBS Corporation. Scary, huh? I can't find enough sources to clarify the changes, so for now I'll just make it say "formerly Columbia Broadcasting System") and not include the other names or exact dates. --Foofy 00:43, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
A few days ago, I went into the external link above and it said nothing about the full name no longer being official. Georgia guy 18:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Joe 00:38, 21 March 2006 (UTC)Some key books were missing from the list, including Ben Bagdikian's famous study of media, so I added them in. Other major additions that I have read were Three Blind Mice and The Evening Stars, the first a serious study of the networks and their impact on democracy and popular culture, the second a solid look at the role of TV anchorperson in the heyday of Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw, and Peter Jennings. I have not read Bias, and Regenery is known for publishing political attacks from the right, but there's no point in not letting people know that such criticism exists. Nor have I read Over the wire, but it focuses on the critical 1980 presidential campaign, where Jimmy Carter was up against Ronald Reagan, and it was later found in the Iran-Contra hearings that Reagan appeared to have manipulated the Iranian hostage crisis in order to win the US election. That election resulted in a lot of changes, including the media becoming more conservative, and greatly accelerated the concentration of the media. Book titles and date information double-checked on Amazon.com [[User: jfdunphy}JF Dunphy]] 00:35, 21 March 2006 (UTC).
== User:JKPrivett The following statement may refer to local affiliate programming and has been removed:
In the early 1990s, CBS abandoned the children's programming lineup on weekday afternoons, relegating the lineup to Saturdays only.
- Definitely. My affiliate has never shown cartoons on weekday mornings.--Attitude2000 20:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Call for help
I've started apage at List of broadcast stations owned by CBS Radio in an attempt to get that information off of the CBS template, much like the Clear Channel template. If anybody is willing to help, that would be great. Thank you! Lambertman 15:34, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Split CBS Eye Logo Discussion
- Split -- support moving these historical images to a separate article. -- MrDolomite 05:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Split — in support as there is a similar article for NBC's logo. — SterlingNorth 04:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- Before splitting, please make sure there is good text to accompany it as in PBS idents, not just a gallery of logos like the former ABC idents article that Tregoweth deleted. Georgia guy 16:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- Split - but as regards the accompanying text, I doubt if there is much to be said about the CBS eye since the succeeding logos after the 1950's are just variations on the original one. —SunKing 12:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well, if you put the logo gallery into its own article and don't put much accompanying text, the new article will very likely get put on Afd within a year. Check out Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ABC idents, which first got a consensus to keep, but was later deleted by Tregoweth, and then check out Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Logos of the Walt Disney Company, which got a consensus to delete; no articles that are simply image galleries. Georgia guy 14:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Special"
In at least the early 1980's, whenever CBS would air anything outside of its usual programming during prime time, particularly holiday specials such as A Charlie Brown Christmas, it would introduce the show with a spinning text graphic of the word "special" and this very weird kind of flat-sounding drum roll punctuated at the end by horns. The Homestar Runner cartoon "The Best Decemberwe'en Ever"[3] appropriately starts with a parody of this, using what sounds very much like the actual "music" as I remember it, but not the original graphic. Anyone else have any memory of this, or an explanation of it? I still find the music rather inexplicable. Finding the actual graphic would be great too. Postdlf 18:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dis-ambiguation problem
Both this page and the dis-ambiguation page have interwikis to Norwegian title CBS. This is weird. Georgia guy 15:01, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge
I propose the CBS anchor list be added into the main CBS article 71.107.82.58 04:42, 12 September 2006 (UTC)ratherhaveaheart
- As literally every single detail of the entire CBS evening news anchors article is already contained in the CBS Evening News article, I'm going to go ahead and WP:PROD it. --Aaron 05:45, 14 September 2006 (UTC)}
[edit] 33KB
This article is beginning to increase, but I don't know what the best section to split into its own article is. Any good idea?? Georgia guy 21:23, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Some more eyes to look at
Messy Thinking 20:47, 3 October 2006 (UTC)This page has several good representations of the ident with the CBS reference in the pupil (and outside since 1990). A few more were briefly shown at YouTube before copyright policies forced them out.
[edit] Add most-watched programs of the network per season since 2001-2002?
I recently added a table of the most-watched programs of the network of the 2001-2002 season. I meant to include the TV seasons following 2001-2002, up until the present. However, another Wiki user had deleted it shortly thereafter. My question to anyone here is should tables of the most-watched programs per season since 2001-2002 be included? I believe that such an addition is informative and an interesting read. Let me know what you think. -- Dechnique23 00:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Accusations of Bias
I believe that it should be noted somewhere that many conservatives consider CBS and its local affiliates to have a liberal slant in the way that they report. The MSNBC and FOX News articles both contain allegations of bias, and CBS has been accused ever since the Vietnam War of being biased. --JBladen 22:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
It is true about some conservatives complain about an alleged "liberal bias" to CBS News--the roots of which can probably be traced back to Edward R. Murrow's broadcast challenges of Senator Joe McCarthy (who called CBS "the Communist Broadcasting System") and, later, Walter Cronkite's anti-Vietnam commentaries. However, to say "and its local affiliates" is incorrect. Most of the stations carrying CBS television programs are not owned by CBS, but are owned by many diverse groups which (I am sure) represent varying political biases. (DS) --- 2 June 2007
[edit] YouTube
A channel entitled "CBS" with more than 800 videos uploaded at YouTube has the most video views of all time on that site. I'd consider that notable. Phoenix2 21:34, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] save the trivia..
Someone ripped the trivia section out wholesale saying iit was not referenced, and could not be saved. All the items have been discussed in the press, and so references could probaly be found. cmacd 12:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- ==Trivia==
- The 2005 film Good Night, and Good Luck. follows the CBS program of Edward R. Murrow and Fred Friendly in which they expose the anticommunist tactics of U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy.
- The first telecast of MGM's classic The Wizard of Oz (1939 film) took place on CBS. As of 2006, CBS still holds the record of televising the film more times than any other network.
- CBS was the first network to telecast Tchaikovsky's ballet The Nutcracker complete.
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- William Golden was planning to introduce a new logo shortly after creating the now-famous eye, but Frank Stanton wanted to keep his original idea (“just when you’re beginning to be bored by what you’ve done is when it’s beginning to be noticed by your audience.”).
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- CBS was the first network to telecast the historic Horowitz in Moscow concert. It was first shown live, on April 20, 1986, at 9:00 A.M, E.S.T. (4:00 P.M. Russian time).
- Leonard Bernstein made his first television appearance on CBS, and had a series of 54 Young People's Concerts on that network, telecast between 1958 and 1972.
- The historic Kennedy-Nixon presidential debate of 1960 occurred at CBS's Chicago studios at 630 North McClurg Court. This debate marked the emergence of TV as an important tool in presidential elections in the United States.
- Shortly after the death of Ed Bradley, a cartoon appeared in newspapers across the country depicting the CBS eye shedding a tear, with the words "ED BRADLEY 1941-2006" underneath. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cmacd123 (talk • contribs) 12:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC).
[edit] No Image?
Why is there no image of the CBS logo? All of the other major networks have an image of the logo and it seems like you could use the same fair use rational for a CBS logo. It seems really necessary for this article since every other network has it and not having it makes it seem like CBS is somehow less important (this is just how still learning wikipedians such as myself might see it).--Kyle(talk) 02:50, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Centralized TV Episode Discussion
Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [4]. Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 01:45, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Liberal Slant
I think it is time for the liberal slant that CBS has undertaken, to be mentioned within this article. Networks such as Fox News and MSNBC as previously noted on this page, have been given criticism for their conservatism. I think it is only fair to include something about the liberalism of Fox News. If you have any ideas or any suggestions on how this can tactifully be undertaken, I'd be very appreciative. I will be posting something in 4 weeks (which can be edited, etc) that sort of underlines the liberalistic slant of CBS.
--DiamondElusive (talk) 19:38, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
