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[edit] More details?

Where is all the revenue/sales information? I'm surprised by this article's total lack of information on this. Also, I read a recruiting ad by the Blue Man Group quite some time ago that described different aspects of being a 'Blue Man.' It provided a lot of information on prerequisites (height, gender, drum skills), and talked aout the general routine. It was interesting. If someone here has a copy of it or something related, I'd like to see it added to the page (there's hardly anything about individual blue men on here, just the productions of the group). 75.69.110.227 01:46, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] fan comment

It seems the blue man group are infact the best actors possible as they can keep it going and make amazing sites and dreams can be opened...they rock—Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.139.41 (talk • contribs)

Matt Goldman in a recent interview with IOA Central says that the actors who play the Blue Men are "real actors" in that they don't do it to become famous. They do it to act, because they surely won't be known playing the Blue Man character. Krillinish 20:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian Union rules controversy

Does anyone object to a section about the controversy surounding the Blue Man group's refusal to conform to Canadian Union rules in Toronto ? Dowew 04:37, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Definately. Union controversy was big. I live in San Diego and I saw it on the news here. --jonasaurus 18:02, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Unions don't serve Blue Men Group Concerts.

A "concert" is an agreement of two or more individuals in a design or plan; combined action; accord or harmony.

Individuals involved in BMG concerts include individuals who organize, promote, sell, stage and particpate in BMG concerts. The Blue Men are not any different than anyone else involved in the event. A lot of individuals work hard to produce a concert at any venue.

These people are those who sell tickets [not their employer(s)], people who work to clean and maintain the venues [not their employer(s)], people who create and organize the sets[not their employer(s)], people who operate the lights and sound [not their employer(s)], people who perform in the concert [not their employer[s]], and the people who participate in the concert who would be called "audience members" at any other venue. [not their employer[s]).] Jaxdave (talk) 05:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] don't be late

I don't understand why it is recommended that people don't arrive late for a showing of theirs? The writer seems to know something that we don't, so I'm going to check and see if theres any reason for his statement, otherwise I'll go ahead and remove it for being unencyclopedia. --jonasaurus 18:01, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

UPDATE:went ahead and removed the line. If anybody can explain the following please include it and explain it.

"It is highly recommended that one not arrive late to a performance."

the reason for the advice to not be late is that as a theatrical device several audience members who arrive "late" become the object of the show as they are shown to their seats, IF they agree in adavance to participate in the bit - so, this in fact has nothing to do with being late, but is a planned part of the show and the selected audinece members are asked to participate becuase they have seats that are centrally located, in easy view, and easily accessed - in fact, by being truly late, you'd be sure not to be asked to participate.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.106.131 (talk • contribs)

In each show there is a skit that is done that has the Blue Men filling up a paint ballon, one tries to shoot it at another on stage and it's supposed to go everywhere, then, all of a sudden, a loud alarm goes off with the words "LATE ARRIVAL" flashing on the giant screen. Then a song plays when the people are ushered to their seats that consists of repeating "You're late" over and over again.

Actually being late to a performance won't trigger this to happen. The late person is randomly selected before the show date and their ticket contains the words "Late Arrival" which signifies that they are the ones chosen for the You're Late skit. JubbaG 01:06, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

When I saw BMG at the Luxor in August 05, the couple sitting next to me (on the aisle) were asked by an usher if they'd like to participate in the show. They were led off, and sure enough they were the "late" couple. It is a staged portion fof the act. Qermaq 18:31, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

And the person chosen for the "Klein" skit is selected in the lobby; then the skit is videotaped & played after the "victim" goes backstage & gets ready to come out again with his head encased in gelatin.

[edit] Instrument Pictures?

Should pictures of the instruments be included in the Instrument section? Ianthegecko 21:04, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Picture caption

The caption under the top picture is incorrect; those are not CMP, but rather three Berlin Blue Men.

New picture added, this time with the real CMP.Ianthegecko 23:01, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "The" Blue Man Group

Blue Man Group should not be referred to with "The" before it; Blue Man Productions refers to the group as Blue Man Group, so please refer to it as such in the Wikipedia articles. Thank you. Ianthegecko 04:29, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Controversy"

This (poorly-written) section is obviously written from a pro-union viewpoint. It is suspicious of BMG's motives and disapproving of their decision to use non-union labor, going so far as to imply that the BMG did not want the Las Vegas crew to receive a "pension and good health care benefits". This is disingenuous to say the least, highly opinionated at the worst. It makes the assumption that unionized labor is superior to non-unionized labor and derides the BMG for putting down the underdog it paints the unionized crews to be. --DCrazy talk/contrib 09:27, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

We have a right to be "suspicious of BMG's motives"; that said, CMP always have an opportunity to explain themselves. Workers have the right to collectively bargain with employers, and that is as it should be. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.240.122.161 (talk) 14:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

I agree on the newly-added Las Vegas section. The first two paragraphs about Toronto seem neutral. Cleduc 15:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the irrelevant and/or biased information from the Controversy section. I'm not sure the Las Vegas "incident" is even relevant at all, but I left a one-liner in there. --DCrazy talk/contrib 04:49, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Bias creeped in again in the Las Vegas paragraph. "Subjected to"? Come on. And it referenced an election that happened today (25 May 2006). I've reworded and trimmed to meet NPOV. --DCrazy talk/contrib 02:24, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Instruments

Quellium Grill
Phil Drum
Chant

These are other instruments, but not much is known about them. If anyone does know enough about these instruments to write a paragraph under the Instruments headline, please do so. Feel free to add to the list if you come across other unknown instruments, or remove items from the list when more is known about them.JubbaG 17:15, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I added Paddle Tubulum, Aronophonic, & Electric Dog Toy. The Chant is simply the "E chant" during Endless Column. Ianthegecko
- Do you think the Chant should be included in the instrument list? I think it's a pretty important aspect of the show; it's used during Paint Drumming, Modern Plumbing, Airport Wands and Chant Jam. JubbaG 18:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
- And good observation with the Electric Dog Toy, I thought it was just feedback from a guitar. JubbaG 21:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
- No, I don't think the chant should be included. It's not really an "instrument"; maybe a character?Ianthegecko 22:12, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
- And we can't forget the Original Dogulum, belonging to Matt. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.56.145.36 (talk) 23:58, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mute?

I'm fairly sure that the Blue Men remain mute throughout performances, but are indeed capable of speech. -Agent_Koopa 13:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

The Blue Men will sometimes speak to die-hard fans in the lobby of the show, so, the actors who play them are definitely not mute. Ianthegecko 02:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

The Blue Man character, as distinct from the actors playing them, are apparently mute. Non-issue.

[edit] Different Picture?

I think there should be an actual picture of Blue Man Group at the top of the article rather than one of the outside of one of their venues. Ianthegecko 17:07, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead & did it. Ianthegecko 02:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WHO is Blue Man Group?

Do the original three Blue Men even perform in any shows anymore? It would seem impossible. I don't see anything that relates to this in the article. Jake b 03:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

CMP may occasionally pop in to do theatrical shows, but they mostly do promotional work, such as the Pentium commercials, in addition to running Blue Man Productions. Ianthegecko 05:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where are the new products?

I saw a commercial about their products which you can create mini-symphonies about. Anyone able to add to that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Personjerry (talk • contribs) 00:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC). (taken care of) SpikeJones 03:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] toronto

that show is ending sometime in january 2007. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.130.173.38 (talk) 13:24, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

It ended on January 7, 2007. I mentioned that in the "controversy" section.159.33.10.92 21:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expanded intro

I moved the top of the Theatrical Productions section to the main article intro to beef it up. I hope it's at least a start for improving the intro. :) I'm a little concerned that all of the Related Articles are about the union controversies. I'll try to find some other articles to add to that section. Ianthegecko 16:09, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, the sentence "Additionally, the Blue Man is inscrutably motivated to drum." is kind of dumb sounding and it basically says nothing.

[edit] Image

Would someone please get a new image for this article? How about getting one from the press kit from the BMG website? I believe it's request only.

I thought the promotional picture of CMP was enough. Guess I was wrong. Ianthegecko 22:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

This new picture of Berlin Blue Men is a composite of other pictures, and I think the left two Men are the same guy. The previous picture of founders CMP was of a much better resolution and meaning/importance. This is one time when I disagree with the "Fair use" rules for replacement. If a promo pic isn't good enough, I don't know what is. --Mtjaws 22:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roadtrip Nation video

Chris Wink mentions the Joseph Campbell quote "Follow your bliss" in that video; I clarified it in Themes. Ianthegecko 04:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Blue Men?

WP says Fred Armisen from SNL was a blue man. Are there any others that are famous for something other than being a Blue Man? A section on them could be added. --Howdybob 06:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Fred Armisen was not a Blue Man. He merely played background drums for them for two years.SpikeJones 12:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to unwatch this article now, so if anyone has something profound to add please let me know on my talk page. --Howdybob 22:51, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] New Picture

We seriously need to get a new head picture up on this article. The current one is total crap and offensive to my eyes. Bmg2282 16:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

As long as it isn't the copyvio you uploaded. -Nard 19:46, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] it is centered on a trio of mute performers

Performers are performers. They aren't mute. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.183.235 (talk) 09:08, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Mimes aren't performers? News to me. Thanks for your insight, however. SpikeJones (talk) 11:51, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Instrument description paragraphs?

Some of the instrument descriptions are very similar to those on the official site. Couldn't this be considered copyright infringement? Bradenmcg (talk) 06:38, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Influence?

In terms of their costume, from what or who were they influenced by? Is this a possibility - [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Media Research (talk • contribs) 03:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

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