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[edit] Happy Vesak!

Sri Maha Bodhi, Anuradhapura. Sri Lanka.
Sri Maha Bodhi, Anuradhapura. Sri Lanka.

May you be happy & well! Thank you so much for your generous thoughts, kind words and beautiful image. Though we are half a world a part perhaps, it is nice to see we share the same sun-lit moon. Happy Vesak!

As for the Pali Canon's top 10 "foremost disciples" (agga-savaka), I am not sure if such a specific number exists in the canon -- though this is likely just my vast ignorance showing itself yet again. The best text I know for such is AN 1.14, an English-language version of which can be found here on Mettanet.org. I believe this lists about 43 bhikkhus (Ananda's mentioned five times) for various reasons. Certainly, intuitively, Sariputta, Mahamoggallana and Ananda are the top three. The other seven you list -- I could not see any argument with them. (Perhaps User:Peter_jackson or User:Sacca could give more definitive information?)

Thank you too for your unsurpassed productivity and awe-inspiring breadth of knowledge. I applaud your massive accomplishment! Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 04:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Hallo dear Blnguyen,

I was happily surprised by your beautiful picture and greetings on my User Talk page just now. Thank you very much! You are most kind. I appreciate your generosity of spirit! Have a lovely weekend, and keep up all your own great work. Best wishes to you. From Tony. TonyMPNS 08:04, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the lovely picture and message Blnguyen. I wish you a very happy Vesak too. And thanks for all the great work you're doing on Wikipedia. --snowolfD4( talk / @ ) 20:48, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I second that. Thanks for everything BInguyen, and happy Vesak. Arrow740 22:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the Vesak greetings -- happy Vesak to you as well ! --Stephen Hodge 00:52, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

For the lovely Vesak card. Wish you happy Vesak too. Wish you all the best and tons of strength to keep up your great work here.Iwazaki 会話。討論 18:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Next update

I had started working on the next update by moving one to next update staging area, but I realize that you need to use the next update temporarily. I have placed that one nomination in my sandbox (User:Royalbroil/Sandbox), and I will continue using my sandbox to work on the next update (except if you object). Let me know when the staging area is ready to use. I will yield doing the next update to you instead if/whenever you want. Royalbroil 01:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

That's fine. I am grateful for other hands being put up. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Carnivores games

Hello, I noticed awhile back that you deleted an article named Carnivores games almost a year ago. I was wondering if you could post a copy of the deleted content to my talk page, or to a new subpage if you want. This is just a matter of curiosity for me, so if you decline, that's your business. --Dinoguy1000 Talk 06:17, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

It only had two edits apart from when a WP:PROD was added. It said

Carnivores series is a very popular series of hunting sims developed by Action-Forms and published by Wizardworks. The game let you hunt dinosaurs so now ethical arguements dont apply because dinosaurs are extinct. They did a great job on this game, sound, Dinosaurs, and Terrain were all first rate. There are also scary moments were you feel you are being hunted. For example you are on a night hunt (only on carnivores2) you look through the dark to find a harmless anklyosaurus then you here somthing behind you next thing you know you are dead. A spinosaurus ambushed you, they are that smart.

I hope this is useful. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:29, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for posting that. I can see now why you deleted it. =P --Dinoguy1000 Talk 15:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting the article Tibet

Hi! You reverted two of my edits to the article Tibet. May I ask why? I gave an explanation in the edit summary box, and also on the talk page, that the infobox shouldn't have a flag and seal for an article which clearly states that it is concerned only with the historical and cultural region of Tibet and not the political entitiy of Tibet of which there is a separate article Tibet Autonomous Region and also the Tibet exile government also has its own article. Thanks! --72.75.55.194 06:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Discussed on talk page. Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 7 June 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Norm O'Neill, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Daniel 07:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blocking User:CaptainKarma

A likely sock of User:Tomananda, see Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/CaptainKarma. Olaf Stephanos 08:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Done, thanks for the info. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:29, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: DYK award

Thanks for the DYK, see you around =]

Best regards

Dep. Garcia ( Talk + | Help Desk | Complaints ) 16:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh

Dear BInguyen,


You undid my changes on Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh. I've modified the paragraph again.

In my opinion, wikipedia should contain no claims without sources.

The link that was given DID NOT contain any information relevant to the assertion. (I'd appreciate if you could verify this.)

Please let me know if my latest change is ok.

Thanks - henrikhenrik

That's ok, I was just unsure why you deleted stuff without giving an explanation in the edit summary. When you do things like that people will assume it is vandalising. Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotect Request: Imran Khan

I would like to discuss changes to changes to article 'Imran Khan'.

Currently, i cannot post anything on the article since you have requested SriKeit to protect it. He is not responding at all.

i would like to know why you do not want to discuss and resolve the differences.

i would like to add new information on imran khan in pakistan's politics.

please help.

Ok, ok I will explain why I think there are issues with NPOV there. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Links

Your edits (reverts) in the article about Choekyi Gyaltsen are inacceptable. Please discuss. —Babelfisch 06:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

This is closed now, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ugh

Care to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kari Schull. I just had to go through and remove tons of prods... and now this. I'm feeling extremely irritated and scratchy so I'm going to hold off for a wee while :P PageantUpdater User Talk Review me! 01:26, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oversight request for Talk:Taner Akçam

Can you deal with oversight with likely libellous claims about Akçam on the article's talk page? Usually, reversion is enough, but he once had problems because of an archived version of his wikipedia article. Thanks, Andjam 07:05, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Done, thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your comment at incident Dbachmann

Thanks for giving your comment at the noticeboard. However, so far I did not find any Arbcom cases related to this user. Could you also supply me a link? Thanks! Rokus01 08:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Template:ArbComOpenTasks - The Miskin and Hkelkar_2 might be useful if anything fits in there. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] another thing

I am not sure how the external link I added to the Buddhism section is inappropriate. It was a link to the blog of Sulak Sivaraksa who is one of the leading scholars in the Engaged Buddhist movement. He is not making money from that blog. What is the point of even making links possible within Wikipedia when one of the world's top Buddhist thinkers cannot even link to a blog about Buddhism in the Buddhism section of Wikipedia?

If Wikipedia authors can use Sulak SIvaraksa as a reference in writing their Wikipedia content, then I wouldn't say that it is 'inappropriate' for Sulak Sivaraksa to put a link in Wikipedia to an external page containing that content. Please remember that Wikipedia is using other people's content, not vice versa.

I don't think such blogs are particularly appropriate as they are the views of one person in one group of Buddhism. Those ones are usually reserved for general websites covering a wide range of material about Buddhism. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Double redirect

Hi. I just moved Burger King Products to Burger King products as I believe this to be the correct title as per WP:NAME (Burger King is a proper name, products is not). However, when checking for double redirects, I noticed that you have protected the redirect BK Crown Jewels due to an AfD result. If possible, can you point this redirect to the renamed page Burger King products? Of course, if you disagree with the move, feel free to undo it. Thanks, GentlemanGhost 21:05, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

that's fine, thanks for the notice. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DRV

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Hi-Zack (Mobile suit). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Jeffpiatt 04:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Noted, thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Sanctions Against a User

Please take a look at the history of the Talk:Jeronimo Bassano page. Gustav seems to have a big chip on his shoulder, and is even erasing others' comments on the talk page. He even called another person an "ass" in his comment section (deleting the talk entry) for disagreeing with his assessment of his "expert." Something needs to be done about him and his abuse on this article.--124.197.51.91 04:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

As you can see I never called this person an ass (they are the same person on each ip). I have merely stated to him that the view that the family are not Jewish is supported by experts on the subject and he doesn't seem to like that as perhaps he had in his mind for some time that they were. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel 09:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't see any evidence of Gustav deleting people's comments, calling them an "ass" or any other abrasive language. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Civility guidelines

  • I would be grateful if you would confirm that:
(a) Civility and personal attacks (ie. respect) are a key Wikipedia policy and one of the five pillars of Wikipedia
(b) There is no defense or justification for incivility
(c) Reporting an editor for incivility is part of the dispute resolution process
(d) That reporting an editor of actual incivility (a core policy) is never classed as vexatious litigation (a guideline). --84.9.191.165 19:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes I could. Although wrt (c) you should probably have a chat to them before reporting them to other people. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion or transfer

Maybe it's something even out of your reach, but can you either delete or transfer logs of mine of non-sports related edits ( see [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], and many more edits from April 2-3. If you possibly could transfer to my non sports account or delete them, it's no skin off my nose. Hope to hear from you soon! Soxrock 23:53 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but as far as I know, there is no feature currently in the Mediawiki software that allows a transfer of individual edits from one account to another. There use to be a page called Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit where Wikipedia's developers would take requests to alter the MySql database directly, but is now not maintained anymore due to their busy schedules. And as for deleting specific edits, under the GNU Free Documentation License, we cannot since those modifications are really legitimate. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, since I want to keep trying at least, are there any higher ranking people than you here (obviously Jimbo Wales, but anyone else)? Soxrock 0:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Looking at the user access levels of MediaWiki, one possibility that is similar to what you want is contacting a user who has access to the oversight permission feature, but you probably do not qualify under those scenarios. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:59, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Now, that's a previous discussion. Can you either help hide/delete, or transfer the files I've highlighted and any other's that I do (like Voyager 2 edits from 4/20, all the Marshall-related and religious-related ones ones from 4/3, the Marylin Monroe and Amanda Bynes ones from last year that I'll highlight (some more here: [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30], [31], [32], 2 edits here, [33], [34], [35], 2 edits here, [36], [37], [38], [39], [40], 2 edits here, numerous edits here, [41], [42], numerous edits here, [43], [44], [45], [46], 3 edits here, 6 edits on the redirect page, [47], [48] and the two ones I highlighted earlier, [49], and 5 edits to [50] and [51]


  • here are a few more I'd like vacated:

[52] 3 here 4 here [53] [54] [55] [56] [57] [58] [59] [60] [61] 2 here [62] [63] [64] [65] [66] [67] [68] [69] [70] [71] [72] [73] [74]

  • sorry to bother again, but here are some more from my other accounts:

Crazy Canadian: [75] [76] [77] [78] [79] [80]

CollegeGameDayRocks!: [81] [82] [83] [84] [85] [86]

And lastly, TheSportsLogosMaster: [87] [88]

(and there are probably a few more out there, I'll give you a link to the general areas of these edits)

If you could transfer, vacate, or, if you can't do too much, direct me to a higher ranking person. I want those gone from all of my accounts. Soxrock 12:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there is no grounds that qualify you for the usage of WP:OVERSIGHT or standard deletions, since these edits are just simple content edits, it was not as though they were libelous or contained personal information. It seems as though there is nothing wrong with your conduct. Are you just wanting your edits to be split up into different accounts for easy management? Unfortunately there is no way to divide the edits, and I don't think I am supposed to simply annihilate genuine edits on your part for housekeeping reasons. Sorry, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 8 June 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Peter Burge, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 23:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Updated DYK query On 9 June 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Harvey family, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 17:28, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Updated DYK query On 10 June 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Neil Harvey, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 01:36, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Updated DYK query On 11 June 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Graham McKenzie, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 23:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Updated DYK query On 13 June 2007, Did you know? was updated with facts from the articles Bill Lawry, and Gia Long, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Nguyen dynasty, eh? :) howcheng {chat} 16:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Lawry

No worries, this one should go to GAC too.--Grahamec 02:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SMG

Hope you cross-checked the Venkat's English experience part. I had said it from memory. Tintin 05:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Well since my talk page piled up so quickly, I had to attend to the SMG thing quickly...and since other horrible things have been on my wiki-mind the backlog in replying to messages is so bad. I will have to check Bose tomorrow after my weekly meeting with professor and such...but yeah I will remember to check Bose. Also Bill Lawry is my 100th DYK (joint with Gia Long, since they were posted on the same update), so it would be an honour if you cleaned out the errors...Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Congrats ! Will do Lawry tonight. Tintin 05:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of material

You fail to discuss anything before deleting the material. Are you white-washing the page because of some personal POV for Buddhism? That's what it seems like to me. I am contacting an admin about your non-compliance. (Ghostexorcist 05:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC))

Greetings. After being contacted by Ghostexorcist and reading through the history, I'm sending the same message to both Blnguyen and Ghostexorcist about the Thích Quảng Đức article. In my experience (at least) you are both quite reasonable to work with. So, if I were to guess, I'm fairly sure the disagreement is a misunderstanding based on WP:TRIVIA rather than any POV issue and can be worked out to your mutual satisfaction with some diplomatic discussion. Regards, --Fire Star 火星 15:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
I have left a comment for you on Talk:Thích Quảng Đức. (Ghostexorcist 20:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC))
Sure thanks, I will be there. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The 100 DYK Medal

The 100 DYK Medal
I, Smee, hereby present Blnguyen with The 100 DYK Medal. Thank you for all of your hard work on Wikipedia:Did you know, as well as your contributions to the project in many other areas. Yours, Smee 07:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Thankyou, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neil Harvey

I assumed that the 1500 characters limit was firm. You did an awesome job on the article, and I agree is essentially a new article. And I love the hook! Good Job! Royalbroil 22:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Was that understandable for people from non-Commonwealth countries?Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD closed

Thank you for your kind comments about my efforts at expansion with sourced citations, in the "Keep." closure, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eugene Martin Ingram. Do you have any further comments about the AfD comments brought up by User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld ? Smee 00:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC).

  • Thanks, I have commented there. I guess I would have had some more to say except Justanother withdrew his/her complaint so there was no need to stir things up again. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
    • I think this close was a big mistake. Not only is WP:BLP at issue here, but you restored a borderline attack article to the main page. Plus, closing the debate was unnecessary if you felt the removal from T:DYK was inappropriate; you could have just reverted that. I'm not reopening, but I'm going to be seeking some other opinions. Mangojuicetalk 02:24, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
      • Well if there is further rumblings at the talk page, then I am fine to unclose the deletion debate and get things going again. As it is I think the article passes WP:N. It is well sourced and perhaps somethings may be not ideal, if seems as though the basics are definitely in order and it isn't an attack page, otherwise many pages about convicted criminals may be considered attack pages. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Do you not think that some of the verbiage chosen by certain editors on this issue at WP:ANI, is, shall we say, a tad inappropriate, to say the least - and/or that this usage of WP:ANI was disruptive? Smee 03:40, 14 June 2007 (UTC).
    • The jousting and questioning of motives for/against Scientology was not so good. It would have been better to use WT:DYK first since it was more of a philosophical type of thing, rather than rank harassment or anything else. But having said that, ANI is a big audience and if you "lose" the debate it would be more humiliating, the bigger the arena. So I don't think Justanother got their best possible result by going there. Having said that, I don't think you came out of that looking bad at all. Certainly it didn't get up my nose because I am used to much worse badgering. They didn't ask me any wife-beating questions or nonsensical things. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
      • Understandable. Thank you for your response. Smee 06:13, 14 June 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Fitzroy, South Australia

Hi Blnyuyen I see that you appear to have originated the Fitzroy Wiki entry and later have edited it.

This is just a courtesy message so you are aware of my plans to edit the Fitzroy page in a couple of days to include a link to an article on the history etc of Goode Lane in Fitzroy.

regards Goodie1

Ok, all the best, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Thank you

Hi Blnguyen, thanks for the note of support at my RfA. Let me know if I can help or if I am monkeying with the tools. Shyamal 04:06, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion review Kari Schull et al

You participated in the AfD for Kari Schull where the nominator is attempting to overturn the "keep" decision at [deletion review Kari Schull]. This discussion is linked to 3 others the previous day, where the author of the articles is attempting to use the "keep" at Kari Schull to overturn the rejection of his other similar articles. Interesting potential precedents for the applicatrion of BIO, or for the reform of special case notability criteria --Kevin Murray 18:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Noted. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA review and "On hold" status - Bill Johnston

On Hold — Notes left on talk page. Kalyan 18:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, i was wondering what has kept you from addressing the BJ's comments for GA. I would def. like to hear back from you before i take the next steps on the GAN. --Kalyan 15:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Sure. I shall be away next week and hopefully you will close the comments before then. --Kalyan 06:23, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Agreed to your resolution on most of the comments. there are still a few left. can you address them and then i close the GA review. --Kalyan 09:43, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Time to increase GA list to 8 as Bill Johnston (cricketer) has been moved to GA level. I think that the article might have a chance at FA. --Kalyan 08:01, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cricket punditry

Until I clicked through to the details/disclaimer page, I seriously believed that you were in all honesty saying that you were a cricket pundit for the Times of India. Do you think you might be able to make it a little bit clearer that this is a joke? Carcharoth 10:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I think "the world's largest circulated" newspaper part makes it quite obvious. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 13:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
On second thought, it's not a joke. Most of what Bln wrote got featured on the Times News website. So what does that make him? — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 13:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Well, I thought (and did until you corrected me), that that bit was correct. India has a lot of people, so I thought it might well be the largest circulation paper in the world. Do you know which is the largest? Carcharoth 15:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I thought it was.. or maybe someone told me sometime and I couldn't remember where? Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
The TOI is the world's largest circulated daily[citation needed]. Get me some refs FGS. :) — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 10:27, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 11 June 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bob Simpson (cricketer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

howcheng {chat} 16:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Updated DYK query On 15 June 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Minh Mang, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 19:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mark Taylor (cricketer)

Updated DYK query On 16 June 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mark Taylor (cricketer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 02:48, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

This one is wrong. Sangakkara scored first appearance hundreds against India, West Indies, Zimbabwe and Pakistan. If you include the Australia v World XI, Hayden is another batsman to do it (India, SL and Zimbabwe being the others) . Tintin 03:27, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, should have just said "first" since the book was published in 1997, and I thought some flat track bullies and sloggers might have gotten a couple of easy ones against BANG and ZIM....and nowadays with such bad bowling and flat pitches everywhere. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Hi. So did the non-bashing Scientology article not find its way to the front page? User:Slightlyright put a lot of effort into that article. --Justanother 14:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

What happened? I haven't been editing on weekends, but it appears there was a debate about the source being from Scientology itself, which qould disqualify the article. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


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