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[edit] Bill Simmons

Didn't mean to revert you so quickly. Probably should have brought it to the talk page first. I summed up in my edit summary, but we can't take what Simmons said in a chat and interpret it, then put it in his article. If you want to further discuss, I'm of course willing. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 15:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Eh, to be honest, I could go either way. But, the preceding information about the controversy (in the wikipedia article) is an excerpt from a Bill Simmons e-mail that was printed on Deadspin.com. I'm not sure how a quote from Simmons during an ESPN.com chat is much different? Bjewiki (Talk) 17:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I thought the controversy came from an interview with Deadspin (even if through email). Even the chat item takes a leap of faith to interpret it. He obviously can't say anything outright negative against ESPN right on the site, and that message didn't really indicate things were patched up. Most importantly... we really don't interpret this stuff on wikipedia, that's left to the sources. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 18:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Here's the original story [1]. I would classify it more as an e-mail exchange. In any case, i'm not going to put it back in (I didn't put it there originally), but I would think it would fair to say something like, "In a recent ESPN chat, Simmons referneced the situation by saying "<quote here>"...without making any judgements or interpretations (like the original editor did). Bjewiki (Talk) 19:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, that would probably be OK. I'm not crazy about using his chat logs for anything, but clearly his quote was in response to the so-called controversy, so I guess it could be noted what was said, without interpretation. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 19:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)