Talk:Baroque pop

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Contents 1 Baroque Pop or influenced by Baroque Pop 2 Didn't the name baroque pop... 3 Rename Baroque Pop 4 Baroque pop artist list

[edit] Baroque Pop or influenced by Baroque Pop

I'm just not sure that some of the bands listed in the "Modern Baroque Pop" list are actually baroque pop, or if their just strongly influenced by baroque pop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.62.240.2 (talk) 02:18, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Didn't the name baroque pop...

start with the similarities between the music and the music in the baroque era? Mainly the harpsichord.. (also hurdy gurdy, bass viol, lute, violin, and baroque guitar.) how do the bands in this INCREDIBLY long list fit in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Verstandlich (talk • contribs) 00:33, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

...I agree, alas we're still looking for a definitive early media usage of the term. My opinion is that the use of classical instruments with a classical sensibility and ambitions would constitute a modern baroque pop. i.e Joanna Newsom and Andrew Bird are classically trained, Rufus Wainwright and Sufjan Stevens already branching into classical composition. 212.139.87.10 (talk) 01:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC) Markw1504 (talk) 02:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be named chamber pop? The definition and bands fit perfectly, and the term itself appears a lot more popular than "baroque pop" (on the net, at least).

...to be fair - Allmusic seems to differentiate between those two - apparently "baroque" is the 60's, while "chamber" belongs to 90's. Hmm... Squeal 23:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Neither are very attractive terms, but baroque is at least descriptive (i.e. ornate, elaborate) and has been common journalistic usage for several decades. I hope to add to this thread when I can organise my articles and record collection. Markw1504 16:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, one could also argue that baroque is misleading because it incorrectly suggests a specific timeframe (mainly, baroque period in western art), while chamber suggests similarities to classical chamber music (which is, for the most part, true). But, yeah, I guess you're right. From what I've seen in the meantime, it's exactly as the article puts it now - chamber pop is a newer term strongly associated with the indie movement. I'm sure baroque pop was in use long before I was around; but as it is now, chamber pop seems more popular (even if it's a bit counter-intuitive when used to describe bands like Belle & Sebastian, and completely fails with regards to The Polyphonic Spree). Both are important, though, and I just hope some day this article will have enough content to justify a split. :) Squeal 15:20, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rename Baroque Pop

I think this is better capitilisation. Think about it and do it. --AresAndEnyo 04:14, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Screw it I'll do it. --AresAndEnyo 04:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it's not a proper noun--see all other genres on wp--indie pop, post-rock, geek rock, lo-fi -- definitely do not rename. Moonty 05:14, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Fine Noted but it still seems wierd to me everywhere else has a capital p in pop. --AresAndEnyo 08:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Baroque pop artist list

I really like Iron and Wine AND I really like baroque pop, but I can't see that Iron and Wine fulfils any qualities of the latter, i.e the songs and instrumentation are conventional folk/blues. I've removed him.

Added Harry Nilsson to the 'old guys' list. Markw1504 20:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Added Joanna Newsom to the 'new guys' list. Markw1504 23:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Added Judee Sill (and her bach-influenced compositions) to the old list. Don't know how this one was missed. Markw1504 23:30, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

There are slightly different descriptions of baroque pop in this article and at Indie rock#Current trends. Many of these artists have a folky aspect, but do the majority of them have quiet vocals? Pomte 19:43, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't Bela fleck fit into this category? Nina simone is folk/jazz/blues, but frequently had a pianist that would go off on long bachesque solos...169.233.53.82 09:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Removed "Kurt Angle". Until he starts a musical career, I'm fairly certain he shouldn't be on a list of artists in any genre, nevermind this one. If there's proof of a career, feel free to correct me. 12 July 2007

Why is Paolo Nutini on the list? I think he's alright but I don't see how his style could conceivably be considered Baroque Pop, even given how wide the scope of the genre is.80.195.246.3 (talk) 00:12, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

A Google search confirms that Nutini has virtually no media references to baroque pop. Hence, removed. Markw1504 (talk) 02:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

This list is ridiculous. Every band that ever used a string instrument doesn't need to be on it. The term becomes so broad as to be meaningless. Jamrifis (talk) 19:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. I suggest contributors could Google the artist name and "baroque pop" and look for several reputable media references. Markw1504 (talk) 02:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Could not agree more. My god does this list get me angry. These bands share like nothing meaningful in common. ILikeThings (talk) 06:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC)