Talk:Alfa Romeo 156

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Contents 1 Cleanup 2 Safety claims 3 156 in motorsport 4 Rear suspension 5 GT Coupe 6 Hidden door handles -- novelty?

[edit] Cleanup

I have cleaned up the article into a more friendly to the eye manner, and have also used the template for automobiles. Have added a picture, a small section entitled 156s in Motorsport, and have made the article a stub. --Sb2k4 08:01, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Safety claims

I have removed a link and/or claim which makes serious safety accusations about this vehicle. The reason is that the only source given is a blog. Wikipedia does not accept blogs as external links and does not consider them a reliable source. If you think about it, this is essential since anyone can create a blog which says anything at all; the blog therefore isn't proof, no matter how sincere or true it is. And Wikipedia, being an encyclopedia, is not to be used to bring new things to the attention of the public, only to report what is already known. The appropriate thing to do instead is to seek a verifiable source. For this, that would pretty much mean a mainstream news report (in a newspaper or printed motoring magazine) and cite that as a source. Notinasnaid 12:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 156 in motorsport

In what way was the 156 less invested in motorsport than the 155? It won the highest series that it was eligible for, the ETCC, outright 4 consecutive seasons. The 156 was a hugely successful car in motorsport, and in fact still is, despite being out of production for 2 years already. Unless anyone objects I'd like to remove the subjective comment that the 156 was less well vested in motorsport than its predecessor. Dino246 10:43, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

yep I think it can be removed--— Typ932^{T | C}  10:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've altered the motorsport section appropriately. There was something odd about saying that it wasn't well vested in motorsport and then listing about a dozen championships it had won. Dino246 12:29, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rear suspension

The rear suspension of 156 isnt real McPherson, it looks a bit same and its maybe wrong to call it as McPherson type here, beacuse it can give wrong impression that it have real McPherson.--— Typ932^{T | C}  08:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GT Coupe

I deleted the comment that the GT Coupe is essentially a 156 coupe. It is primarily 147-based. The 147 itself is obviously 156 based but the GT shares significantly more components with the 147 than the 156. It is more correct to describe the GT as based on a 147 platform, stretched to the wheelbase of the 156. The "156 Coupe" tag was mostly a marketing ploy to allow them to charge a premium for what is really a "147 Sprint". Dino246 06:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hidden door handles -- novelty?

Usually this feature is attributed to Walter de Silva, and Alfa 156 article even claims that these were first introduced in 1994 in Fiat Coupe, but that's plainly WRONG!

Look at Nissan Terrano, which 1st generation dates back to 1986, and you'll see exactly the same hidden door handles at rear doors! They are still used in Terrano's offspring Infiniti QX56.

Unfortunately, I'm unaware of WHO was the inventor of hidden door handles, and I haven't ever heard of any relations between de Silva and Nissan, but stating that Fiat/Alfa pioneered hidden door handles is just WRONG. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bolkhov (talk • contribs) 03:14, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I changed that part--— Typ932^{T | C}  06:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

The Terrano's rear handles are not hidden. Yes they are in the pillar and not on the door but they are exactly the same contrasting colour as the front handles and were not designed to be invisible. On the 156 by contrast the rear handle is designed to disappear into the C-pillar while the front ones are aluminium and made to stand out. This is a deliberate attempt to give the 4-door car a coupe profile and the 156 was the first car to do this. For the record, front handles hidden in the B-pillar featured on the Ferrari Dino in 1967, as well as on the Daytona, Boxer and 308; all long before the Coupe Fiat. Dino246 06:54, 26 September 2007 (UTC)