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Contents 1 Lee Choon Seng 2 Singapore Meetup 4 date changed 3 Santikhiri 4 July 10th, 2007 DYK 5 RE:Stub entries 6 Middle Road, Singapore 7 Request for reassessment 8 DYK Medal 9 DYK 10 Did you know... 11 RE:Kent Ridge Park 12 DYK August 22 13 DYK August 28 14 DYK 15 Public Domain Astronaut 16 Did you know... 17 DYK 18 Did you know 19 Did you know 20 DYK October 1 21 Did you know you write good stuff and .... 22 An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Venerable Ho Yuen Hoe, was selected for DYK! 23 DYK October 20 24 25 DYKs! 25 Battle of Kranji on hold 26 Battle of Kranji GA pass 27 Fort Tanjong Katong 28 Jin Long Si Temple 29 DYK 30 Thanks! 31 DYK 32 Wikipedia:Meetup/Singapore 4 33 You have been awarded the Barnstar of National Merit! 34 COI in assessing GA? 35 Happy New Year 36 Email please 37 Gan Eng Seng School 38 Kent Ridge Park 39 Selarang Barracks Incident passed GA 40 Bot 41 You're a real Wiki Wizard! 42 External Links 43 Cyril Wong Publisher 44 Talk:Ho Yeow Sun 45 Gan Eng Seng 46 Sembawang Hot Spring 47 Page protection 48 DYK 49 Notice on talk page of a vandalizing IP 50 AIV 51 May 1st Incident 52 re: A recourse 53 Re:GAN review: 2nd chance 54 Multiple copyvio/COI edits 55 There's a problem again 56 Permission to reproduce photo of Gan Eng Seng School in educational book 57 Sembawang Hot Spring- GA On Hold 58 I wanted to make another admin aware 59 GA Review Second Time 60 RE:Sembawang Hot Spring 61 I need help in Chee Soon Juan's article!

[edit] Lee Choon Seng

Hi Aldwinteo, I noticed your article Lee Choon Seng and it's coming along well. There is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Also, don't forget to keep checking back at Did you know suggestions for comments regarding your nomination. Again, great job on the article. -- JayHenry 04:16, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Singapore Meetup 4 date changed

Singapore Meetup
Meetup 5
Status: Currently being planned Date: 2008 Please indicate your interest at the meetup page.
v • d •  e

Hi Aldwinteo, you were originally invited to Singapore meetup 4. However, due to the lack of response, the date of the meetup has been changed to November. Please refer to this page for more information. -- ZhongHan (Email) 05:38, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Santikhiri

On 9 July 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Santikhiri, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 15:43, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] July 10th, 2007 DYK

On 11 July 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lee Choon Seng, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Andrew c ^[talk] 00:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Stub entries

Hello! I hope you are feeling great. I totally agree with you that some of the content which I have created should be expanded further. In fact, I intent to do this in the near future if I have the time. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 04:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Middle Road, Singapore

On 22 July 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Middle Road, Singapore, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 09:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for reassessment

Hey, please feel free to reassess anything yourself! Anyway, I've upped it to B-class, but taking it to GA might require further improvements. I see you've created many good quality articles in the last few months, and I'd like to thank you for your contributions. Keep up the good work! Thanks and regards, - SpLoT // 11:36, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, no pressure to take it to GA. Of course, I personally think that the GA process does help to set a standard of quality across topics in Wikipedia. But there's no need to if you don't want to. - SpLoT // 13:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK Medal

		The DYK Medal
		Awarded to Aldwinteo for consistently high quality Singapore contributions to DYK. -- Blnguyen 01:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

On July 25, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Burmese Buddhist Temple, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Well done again and you have the pictured slot this time. Happy photographing also.Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 11 August 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Buddhist Library, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--DarkFalls ^talk 07:16, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know...

On 17 August 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Amitabha Buddhist Centre, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 21:06, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Kent Ridge Park

I suppose the suggested renaming of the article will be a fair compromise than, since I too wonder just how much content can be writern for the park alone. Perhaps this can be accomplish later with more research and contributions from more users. I will evoke the changes after the date as per your request, but please do assist also as and when you can. I do recognise and appreciate the work you have put in for that article, and I do not wish to degrade its quality as a result of the amendments.--Huaiwei 15:32, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK August 22

On 22 August 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kent Ridge Park , which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Andrew c ^[talk] 20:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK August 28

On 28 August 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kempeitai East District Branch, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Peta 06:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 31 August 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ee Hoe Hean Club, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Daniel 12:33, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Public Domain Astronaut

Since The Fullerton Singapore had multiple copyright violation in its history I deleted the article and created a ministub. I hope it can be a good article again soon. Thank you for checking. Garion96 (talk) 18:04, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know...

On 11 September 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Early Founders Memorial Stone, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 15:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 17 September 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article SGH War Memorial, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 21:09, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know

On 20 September 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tan Chay Wa's tombstone trial, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 10:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know

On 24 September 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Battle of Kranji, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 00:18, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK October 1

On 1 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article New World Amusement Park, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Andrew c ^[talk] 17:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know you write good stuff and ....

• ...that when the Venerable Ho Yuen Hoe , who had worked nineteen hour days hairdressing for thirty years, eventually made some money she used it to open an old-peoples home? by user:Aldwinteo <-- another! nom by Victuallers 20:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your compliments & DYK suggestion. -- Aldwinteo 01:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Venerable Ho Yuen Hoe, was selected for DYK!

On October 9, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Venerable Ho Yuen Hoe, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 02:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK October 20

On 20 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Madame Tussauds Hong Kong, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Andrew c ^[talk] 22:20, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 25 DYKs!

		The 25 DYK Medal
		Awarded to Aldwinteo for his 25 excellent contributions to Did You Know?. Thanks so much for all your hard work and welcome to the club! --JayHenry 23:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Kranji on hold

I have reviewed the above article and found a few issues that need to be addressed, so I have placed it on hold until around 29th October. Detailed comments are on the article talk page. Regards, EyeSerene^TALK 11:46, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Kranji GA pass

Thank you for your hard work on this article. Following an excellent copyedit on the suggestions provided, I have now passed Battle of Kranji as a Good article, and updated the various talk page templates to reflect this.

That also means you deserve one of these:

which you may like to place on your user page (or somewhere suitable) by copy/pasting {{User Good Article|Battle of Kranji}} into the page code.

Great job - well done! EyeSerene^TALK 18:43, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank u very much for your time & support. Best regards -- Aldwinteo 01:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fort Tanjong Katong

On 27 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fort Tanjong Katong, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 10:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jin Long Si Temple

On 28 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jin Long Si Temple, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 18:56, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On November 5, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Khoo Kheng-Hor, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Good to see you contributing at DYK !Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:59, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

On November 6, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sungei Road, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Hi, Aldwinteo, thanks for tirelessly creating Singapore-related articles and promoting them through "Did you know?" and nominating them for Good Article status! I hope you find time to contribute towards Wikipedia. — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 16:20, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank u very much for the Barnstar. I may return to contribute towards SGpedia & Wikipedia in the near future. Take care, mate! -- Aldwinteo 16:41, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 9 November 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Teresa Hsu Chih , which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 18:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Meetup/Singapore 4

Singapore Meetup
Meetup 5
Status: Currently being planned Date: 2008 Please indicate your interest at the meetup page.
v • d •  e

Hi Aldwinteo, you have been invited to attend the SGpedians' meetup on 29 December 2007. We are planning to make this a full day event, but you may join/leave at anytime you wish. If you can or cannot make it, please leave your name here. It will be good to have you at the meetup. Terence (talk) 08:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You have been awarded the Barnstar of National Merit!

		The Barnstar of National Merit
		This is for the five GAs you have written about Singaporean historical sites: Fort Pasir Panjang, Battle of Kranji, Fort Tanjong Katong, Long Ya Men and Changi Murals. Your contributions are most appreciated and you are encouraged to keep up the excellent work! J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 04:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

A rather pleasant surprise as this's my first barnstar recvd from a SG-based SGpedian as compared to my previous awards. Nevertheless, thank u for your support & recognition shown wrt my contributions to SGpedia all these while. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 06:33, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

You deserve it! The barnstar was long overdue. As I said, keep up the excellent work! Seeing Kent Ridge Park and Selarang Barracks Incident on GAN convinces me that you will. Perhaps you could teach me how to prolifically write GAs. --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 11:21, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again for the compliments. Right from the start, it's been my plan all along to help SGpedia in raising the profile & quality of SG-related articles esp those historical/heritage articles which were lacking previously. From young, I possess a strong passion for History & Geography (I aced both subjects in school) & writing for Wikipedia allows me the opportunity to pursue this passion during my limited free time. As for my opinion in writing DYK or GA-quality articles, listed below are some of my personal suggestions:

1. Planning: I plan & set a time frame for my writings
2. Identify your scope of writing: I came up with a list of articles to write on based on personal interest on the subject matter & suggestions recvd earlier.
3. Know your subject well: Content, comprehensive research, interviews (to get more insight) & site-visits.
4. Understand Wikipedia rules & guidelines well such as notability, citations, MOS, NPOV...
5. Observe & follow good examples (I'm more of a doer than a talker type)
6. PASSION & COMMITMENT: Without which, all the above will come to naught now or later.

Do check out my past writings to get a clearer picture of what I mean here. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 14:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips, Aldwinteo! How do you ensure your GAs are well-written? Although I consistently top my class (and even topped the level on one occasion) in English, I still struggle in that aspect. --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 15:03, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Read more good GA/FA articles or books on your subject (I'm a bibliophile), learn & adopt best practices thru' such reviews & practise more! (u cld put up a request for suggestions/peer reviews at SGpedia Notice Board b4 u put up your article for GA nomination next time) No quick & easy shortcuts I cld give here, just practical advice based on my personal experience. Once u got the 'nose' & 'flow' for writing potential DYK/GAs, it'll be easier down the road. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 22:08, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Who copy-edits the GAs you write? --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 14:10, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Most of the time, I improved them along the way (as I'm a free-lance feature writer myself) or at times by a bunch of senior Wikipedia editors (mostly from UK/Oz) who are following my works all these while. On rare occasions, some touching-up by the reviewers themselves or I do the nec copyedits after receiving their suggestions/comments during the GA reviews. In short, It's basically a 'one-man show' from research, site-visits, pix-taking, article creation, DYK/GA nominations & copyedits. Since I've completed all my 41 writeups during this self-assigned 7-month project for Wikipedia, I decided to stop & go into semi-retirement since Nov 5. In the meantime, I'll promote & nominate a few more for GA status before I retire from Wikipedia for good. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 15:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Why do you wish to "retire from Wikipedia for good"? Are you busy in real life or frustrated by various problems with Wikipedia? Could you help me copy-edit articles I write before I nominate them for GA and/or introduce several "senior Wikipedia editors" to me? Lastly, am I asking too many questions? --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 13:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm rather surprised by your interest & concern about me & my works in Wikipedia as I've always maintain a low profile; I rarely post comments or intervene unless when necessary. Being a free-lance feature writer myself during my limited free time in real life, I no longer want to spend too much time & energy in writing or copyediting for Wikipedia on a on-going basis. Besides personal commitments, I've accomplished what I've set out to do for SGpedia/Wikipedia earlier. Besides SG, most of my past articles I wrote provide a deeper insight on little known or near forgotten history/heritage of various countries. As such, it caught the attention of many 'ang-moh' native speakers coming mainly from the DYK groups, WikiProject groups such as Military History, History, Australia (the friendly Aussies do like to support their own folks as I am a Aussie grad from NSW. See the greetings below), UK, Buddhism etc. u can check out the article's GA reviews or its history logs to find out specifically who they are. Anyway, being a 'one-man show' all these while, I wld not be badly missed now or later. Yes, u do ask a lot of questions since Dec 21 -- Aldwinteo (talk) 14:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Please do not feel that because you are a "one-man show", you will not be missed. Having written five GAs, you are already an SGpedian legend. We need more GA writers like you. Although I hope you will continue editing Wikipedia when you have the time, I understand that real life comes first. If you decide to retire for good, may I take this opportunity to wish you all the best in your endeavours and remind you that your contributions will always be appreciated, not just by SGpedians, but also by the millions who read Wikipedia. --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 16:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

u posted flattering accolades abt my contributions at SGpedia earlier (which I wasn't aware of until recently) & now u or someone is calling me a "SGpedian legend"? Shucks! Dun worry young fella, I'll still be around as I'm currently involved in the GA exercise & afterwards, may hang around long enuf if possible except that I'll not be actively writing any more DYK/GA-quality articles cos it has been a rather taxing experience for me; my social life & health (namely eyesight & prolonged fatigue) suffers due to the amount of time & hassle I spend on research, correspondence, site-visits, interviews, permission sought, proof-reading etc (No thanks to the type of articles I'm focusing on earlier). u can refer to the 'Acknowlegements' section to get an idea of wat I meant here. While I'm back in S'pore, I planned this solo Wiki project to last between 6-7 mths for me. Besides myself, I believe there're some good SGpedian writers left & still many more yet to be discovered. Nevertheless, if u do appreciate what I've done so far for SGpedia/Wikipedia, honour me by protecting my works & promote some to FA status (e.g. Battle of Kranji) in the near future in order to carry on my 'legacy' once I officially retired for good. Once again, I thank u for yr compliments, support & recognition shown for my contributions to SGpedia & Wikipedia. With this reply, I wld like to end our discussion here. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 18:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I will honour your request to end this conversation. --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 13:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] COI in assessing GA?

Hi, you mentioned there is a 'cleanup' group focusing on possible COI in assessing GA articles. Would this 'cleanup' group also focus on Americans reviewing American war articles? Where can I look for details on this? Are you talking about the GA sweeps group? Personally I believe Selarang Barracks Incident would be a GA-class when the issues are addressed. Thank you. Jappalang (talk) 23:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

No, I'm not referring to any COI-based sweep groups but what I was referring to earlier is the GA/FA sweep groups (or its overzealous adherents/whistleblowers) currently doing the rounds in re-evaluating past GA/FAs "in order to raise and uphold the quality of Good articles" now. Though the re-evaluation process (or heated debates at times) is transparent to all parties concerned, I noticed that the 'standards' seem to shift & not applied uniformly across the board. A few recent 'casualties' that I've seen are Singapore, Lithuania, Argentina, Morocco, Papua New Guinea & et cetera... In some of the cases, the COI issue was inplicitly implied or as seen from its follow-up actions. For more details, kindly refer to this page & its archives. As such, my earlier concern was expressed as a cautionary note & I do appreciate your kind understanding shown in supporting fellow SGpedians & their works.

PS: Fyi, the version I adopted for the article is the version that was mentioned at the Changi Museum during my previous site-visits & research. I'll add the nec endnotes soon as based on your earlier feedback. Rgds -- Aldwinteo (talk) 00:58, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy New Year

Hello Aldwinteo, I hope you had a pleasant New Year's Day, and that 2008 brings further success, health and happiness! ...Keep on rocking and enjoy youself on the sunny island!.... ~ Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks mate! May u be well & happy always. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 09:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Email please

Hello,

Could I have your email as it is to invite you to read a private blog related to Wikipedia. Thanks. Terence (talk) 11:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh didn't see that. I asked you 'cos I couldn't email you through the Email this user function. If you want to write on it, do let me know. Terence (talk) 11:26, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

It's good to initiate & create a private blogspace for fellow SGpedians to mingle & talk freely. I got nothing much to write about there, as I'm more of a doer than a talker type. Moreover, I'm semi-retired now. Thks for the invitation earlier -- Aldwinteo (talk) 12:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gan Eng Seng School

Thanks for responding to my suggestion that someone write a GA pertaining to education in Singapore by considerably improving Gan Eng Seng School for GA. Unfortunately, I doubt the article is ready for GA as it is not broad in its coverage. My attempt to restructure the article revealed major gaps in information (check the history and read my edit summaries). Consider withdrawing the nomination, expanding the article, nominating it for the GA drive and posting a peer review. --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 14:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint u, the above article & the 5 mentioned ones were not nominated as per your suggested postings all along, but were based on what I've plan to write on & nominate 9 mths ago! (I hardly follow the discussions on the talkpage earlier & now) Fyi, my current nomination list covers categories such as history, geography, biography, arts, social science etc. As mentioned on GESS page, some of the mentioned sections were removed in Aug 2007 during a cleaup to remove "laundry list" or so-called "advertisement" such as CCAs, Values, & other what-nots... Like the previous GA nominations & follow-ups which I undertook on my own initiative, let's me handle this on my own here too. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 15:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Since you are the primary contributor to Gan Eng Seng School and an experienced GA writer, I will leave it to you to make the necessary expansions. Several months ago, I was considering writing a GA on a Singaporean school. To understand how articles about schools should be structured, I read several GAs about schools and the structural guidelines developed by WikiProject Schools. My suggestions are based on the precedent set by existing GAs about schools, as well as the structural guidelines.

For example, most of them either list all the CCAs or have subsections for each type of CCA (such as sports, performing arts and uniformed groups). Similarly, the "Academics" section needs a little information about teacher and student demographics. A short paragraph will do; the GA reviewer will hopefully understand that referenced information on Singaporean schools is difficult to find.

By the way, I notice that you are also the primary contributor to Gan Eng Seng, a well-written and well-referenced article. Do you intend to nominate it for GA soon? --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 15:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

FYI, it was not part of my original plan to nominate the GESS article, but a WikiProject School reviewer prodded me to do so in July 2007 but I choose to put it on the backburner instead, as it was not my priority to do so then. Yes, I'm fully aware of the issues & its GA criteria mentioned earlier. I'm currently nominating 2 articles at a time. Once the shortlisted WWII & heritage-related articles are all successfully cleared. I'll move on to religion, biographies & others. As initially planned, I want the scope of my writings to be diverse as it was one of the 3 challenges I placed upon myself and also for the benefit of SGpedia in the long run: Diversity, DYKs & GAs. If u chk out the classification of my previous GAs, u will be able to understand my game-plan soon. Pse note that I'll not be answering any more questions now. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 17:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kent Ridge Park

I have reviewed the Kent Ridge Park article. I found that it was a very good start, well researched and full of information. However, I have removed a lot of the POV terms that were used. Adjectives such as brave, important, or beautiful are not encyclopedic unless they are direct quotes from a referenced source. Also a good third of the article had very little to do with the park and more to do with the Battle of Bukit Chandu, which is now briefly covered in the Battle of Pasir Panjang. You have enough info about that battle to create a separate article, you seem very interested in that battle so I'd suggest you do that. I have moved this info to the talk page of the Kent Ridge Park article. Finally, I found the section on the wild life and plant life in the park very interesting. This is the kind of info people will definitely be looking for when they are doing research on this park. However, it is not necessary to list the genus and species of every organism in the park. That kind of detailed information is already present in each species' article. I also did some spell check and grammatical corrections on the article, however I might have changed some of the words to US spellings, and since this is not a US article, they can and should be changed back. Finally, one that that you can convert all your measurement figures into standard and give those as well. This is a requirement for featured articles and will increase the accessibility of your article to a wider audience. Let me know when you've done more work on the article and I will support it for GA. --The_stuart (talk) 16:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for informing me here. Pse refer to my reply at the article talkpage. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 01:26, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Forgive me for being more cautious than usual in closing this GAC, but I want to make sure that The stuart has ample time to make any aditional comments that (s)he feels might be relevant. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 03:20, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem mate, I've always trusted & value your comments, copyedits(as per native-speaking) & judgement ever since the l-e-n-g-t-h-y 'Santikhiri' episode. Kindly post your final review when the on-hold period expires so that the SGpedia community & myself can have a closure on this case soon. Thanks! -- Aldwinteo (talk) 03:38, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

You'll be relieved to know that I've finally listed Kent Ridge Park as a GA; thanks for all the work you did in dealing with my irritating comments. I bet you won't be asking me to review any more of your articles after Santikhiri and now this. :-)

On the subject of the ghost story you quite properly raised, the issue of the incomplete referencing apart, it never occurred to me that some might consider it disrespectful, so I'll leave it in your hands to do whatever you think is best. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 15:10, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

My pleasure mate, as an English saying goes: "No pain, no gain!". Nevertheless, u r most welcomed to review any of my nominated articles (which I think u enjoyed & discovered much in return) posted at WP:GAN in future. As this case is finally settled, I'll be taking a long wiki break from this GA drive, which I've undertaken on behalf for SGpedia since Sep 2007. See ya! -- Aldwinteo (talk) 17:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I have indeed enjoyed learning about topics that, to be honest, I had very little - if any - previous knowledge of whatsoever. But more than that, your recent comments about respect have given me some pause for thought. Enjoy your break, and I hope to see you back soon. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 18:09, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Selarang Barracks Incident passed GA

Hi Aldwin, I have passed the Selarang Barracks Incident as a Good Article. Well done! Please consider reviewing an article or two at WP:GAN to help with the backlog. --haydn_likes_carpet (talk) 00:24, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks mate for your support & the final touch-ups done in passing the article. Fyi, I've been approached to be a GA/FA reviewer earlier but I find it's not my cup of tea. Due to personal commitments, I'm currently semi-retired, but I do help out in other areas where I'm more comfortable with now. Rgds -- Aldwinteo (talk) 01:26, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bot

Damn bot... anyway I was under the impression, after reading all the responses and so on, that there was consensus to have a topic ban on GAR/FAR (with all the argument surrounding any additions to that proposal), and when I posted it up in explicit terms noone objected. A topic ban can't actually be enacted like a normal ban, it's more a situation where it's agreed by consensus and upheld on that basis. I will ask a couple of people though and see if anything formal needs to be done to record the outcome. Orderinchaos 02:05, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Talked to others, I believe this should be sufficient. I'll place a record of it on the AN/I archive itself. Orderinchaos 07:00, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You're a real Wiki Wizard!

Hi Aldwin! Thanks for the sprucing up! Whoa...i never knew you could do something like that! :-O I'm really impressed by it, and it does inspire me to contribute more towards creating info for Singapore heritage. Let's work towards the better-ment of Singapore historical literature!

Cheers!
Marcuslim (talk) 09:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

Dear Aldwinteo,

Request for Info. I just wonder, what is the policy to add external link on Wikipedia ?

Recently, i just added eGuide Singapore link on article about 'Singapore'.

Regards, Rbiahk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rbiahk (talk • contribs) 10:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cyril Wong Publisher

Hi Just wondering why you deleted the link to Transit Lounge. I tried to create an entry for them (as they feature in several lit profiles) but this page also got pulled. Is it not okay to link to a publishers website? It seems that Pengiuin and several other companies have links here. I'm new here so I'm really just asking as I don't understand the rules about this. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgieFamingo (talk • contribs) 23:35, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm a member of WP:FACT & a RCP in Wikipedia. Pse read Wikipedia's policies & guidelines at WP:SPAM, WP:EL & also WP:COI. Already mentioned the rationale in my edit summary earlier. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 23:48, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Ho Yeow Sun

I removed a link to copyrighted material which, by rights, should be deleted from the edit history. Corvus cornix_talk 20:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

One can always point to the place where the copyrighted material was taken from. One can also believe in good faith and assume that a knowledgeable editor knows that editing other people's Talk pages comments isn't appropriate. Corvus cornix_talk 16:18, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gan Eng Seng

On 14 March 2008, I nominated Gan Eng Seng for the GA drive, commenting that the article "needs a copy-edit and contains several minor NPOV violations". You removed it with the comment "will update/copyedit & follow-up on its nomination once I'm back in Singapore" and nominated it for GA twelve days later. However, a cursory scan of the article suggests that the article still has several prose issues and NPOV violations.

Would you like me to:

1. File a peer review for the article? After posting all the prose issues and NPOV violations I can find, others can comment at the peer review.
2. Post all the prose issues and NPOV violations I can find on the article's talk page? I will leave it to you to address them.
3. Get one of my IRC mates to copy-edit the article? If you are busy, let them take care of the issues.
4. None of the above. Leave you to your own resources and trust you will address all the issues in time.

--J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 03:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Option 4: As usual, I've informed my circle of interested history/heritage buffs to review the article earlier. They'll either copyedit the article directly or give feedback if nec for my follow-up later. Thanks for your concern. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 06:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I will let you and your friends copy-edit it. I know you prefer to be left to your own resources, but was a little concerned when I saw that you had nominated the article without addressing the prose issues and NPOV violations. All the best and may Gan Eng Seng achieve GA status! By the way, do keep me informed of any plans you may have to write DYKs (or GAs) for the National Day celebrations. --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

If commitments permit, I'll contribute as & when I can. As such, I do not follow any suggested agenda & timings (also I rarely participate in SGpedia but do support its community spirit & aspirations) & that's one of the reasons why I've always contributed independently of SGpedia all these while. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 05:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sembawang Hot Spring

Hi Aldwin, I think its best to be prepared for the above article for deletion by Rifleman82. Like you, I researched the article through at least 3 different sources and put it up about a week ago and that guy just promptly put it down out of commission within 24hours, citing that it was a "NEAR VERBATIM COPY" of the original NLB version and I see shadows of it in this one as well. Come my talk page and you shall see what I meant by that. So from now on, I will be contributing more towards military hardwares, formation and information rather than dwelling in such "useless" content whereby admins (such as that guy) would flush my work down the god-damned drain with just the blink of an eye. By the way, it was called the Sembawang Hot Springs because of the three different spring sources in the area which was later merged into one. Regards. --Dave1185 (talk) 11:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I'm fully aware of its etymology & history but I adopted its present name as per official sources & publications to date. Fyi, I've read your talkpage last week before this article was written after sifing thru' my previous research materials done months ago. Unfortunately, I've not seen the earlier versions of the 2 deleted articles & so I'm totally clueless on the specifics of contention between u and him earlier. Besides, my sources are derived mainly from the newspapers archives, not the mentioned NLB source (See references cited). I know of Rifleman82's actions rather well, so does he & fellow senior SGpedians on my SG-related writeups all these while. Fyi, I've contributed a total of 42 new articles without any known incidents or clashes with him, other admins or even official bodies on such issue to date. Being a free-lance writer myself, I've always write my works in my own personal writing style & perspective as compared to the sources I researched on earlier. As such, I'm not so concerned at all even if they come under scrutiny. Thank u for your heads up mate. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 12:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Glad you noticed that, I told him that I actually went down to NLB in search of the related articles from LianHe-WanBao / ZaoBao as well as ST, it would seem that a lot of the NLB version was copied from ST, so I said to him "Talk about plagiarising" in my talk page, he still didn't get it. I also look up past issues of cyber pioneer for some clues and more info before I reopen that page. Anyway, if he chops this one off as well... then forget about me contributing anymore. Reagrds. --Dave1185 (talk) 18:35, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

u r not alone here mate, it's fairly common to encounter admins of such bahaviour in Wikipedia. u can check out the past few cases & their outcomes, whereby I took on some individuals (even all at one go singlehandedly for days) to task previously for their poor judgement or nitpicking: 1. Multiple deletions, 2. Bureaucratic behaviour, 3. Non-action etc. Besides, as one of the remaining experienced SG editors left who actively contribute DYK & GA quality articles for SGpedia to date, one has to think carefully of the fallout unless they want to lose their credibility or have their adminship challenged later like in the mentioned cases. Besides u, there're people who have noted my contributions & are concerned about my welfare too. As a comparison, u may want to reread the article again on its writing style, content & perspective or to monitor the page if u like. Thank u. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 01:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page protection

There is a separate forum for page protection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. In general, that's the better forum when multiple IPs have been vandalizing an article. I have reviewed the history of the Singapore article and decided that yes, protection is warranted for the article text, so I've gone ahead and done that. —C.Fred (talk) 00:07, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 29 April 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sembawang Hot Spring, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Royalbroil 03:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for the Sembawang Hot Spring article. If you're not aware, Sembawang Hot Springs has been deleted twice as a copyvio of the NLB article. Your article is much better! Everything looks good, though I think that a few paras still follow the NLB article a tad closely. From your refs, I don't gather you are aware of the NLB article. Do take a look though. Cheers! --Rifleman 82 (talk) 05:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

P/S Do you have ref 1? I'm not convinced that the temperature of the water is 131 °F. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 05:44, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, they may be similarity in certain parts, but not in its entirety as per writing style, perspective & content, which u have examined the article as a whole earlier. I try to avoid but at times it can't be help, when mentioning certain historical events in chronological order and scientific findings which I can't deviate much for factual reasons. In fact, many of the newspaper references which NLB used earlier, were based on some of the same sources (esp the historical & scientific account by Dominic Nathan) which I used too. Nonetheless, you are free to copyedit the affected paras further if u think it's necessary. As for Ref 1, I have the mentioned reference on hand, and also the newspaper archives I used previously for all my past Wiki writeups to date. Fyi, a dude changed the temperature scale to Fahrenheit (I've corrected this later [1]) when this article was in the DYK limelight earlier. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 10:41, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notice on talk page of a vandalizing IP

Hi, I see that you posted a notice on the talk page of an IP concerning vandalism. I removed it because the IP has not a long history of vandalism, has never been blocked or even issued a warning higher than level 2. This template is to be used on this kind of IP with an outstanding history of vandalism and blocks. Regards, Cenarium (talk) 10:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm aware of its usage but some of these IP vandals are probably the same sockpuppets (according to their edit history, IP range & tone of edits) which I've encountered & dealt with previously. Fyi, the latter example u show was a notice that was added by me previously. [2] Rgds -- Aldwinteo (talk) 10:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I made a google search for this one, I also found this discussion. In case of repeated vandalism, the established template is {{repeat vandal}}, as you can see at CAT:IPV, WP:WARN and other places. This template should not be substituted for a variety of reasons and it's better to have a centralized template. Both IPs are indeed close in location and editing pattern. Cenarium (talk) 11:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AIV

Thank you for making a report on Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, it appears that the editor you reported may not have engaged in vandalism, or the user was not sufficiently or appropriately warned. Please note there is a difference between vandalism and unhelpful or misguided edits made in good faith. If they continue to vandalise after a recent final warning, please re-report it. Thank you!¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 23:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Firstly, I'm no newbie to vandal, troll fighting or acts of sockpuppetry in Wikipedia. I evaluate each cases based on the severity, history & tone of edits as a guiding benchmark. As such, I find it hard to believe or condone that blanking a country-level page or adding wholesale crap into a related article a few days later, despite prior warnings, as "misguided edits made in good faith". -- Aldwinteo (talk) 05:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, we had some talks on overly aggressive vandal patrols, for example here, I suggest that you take this into consideration, and use the established templates, from wp:warn, the chain {{subst:uw-v1}} {{subst:uw-v2}} {{subst:uw-v3}} {{subst:uw-v4}} is the most used, with some variants; sometimes, levels are dropped, but this is done only at rare occasions, in case of repeated or extremely bad vandalism. There are really only a few cases where you should report a vandal before he received enough warnings, for example, when he moves a page to H A A G G E E R R ? ?? ?? (it'll certainly be Grawp or one of his fan). Also, don't forget that IPs may represent a lot of people, and it's better to avoid making connections between IPs except in clear cases. Cenarium (talk) 17:13, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I've done my job to monitor, warn, revert & to report to AIV if necessary, and will continue to do so, as long as recalcitrant vandals or sockpuppets are encountered during my watch. Whether the admin in charge wanted to take further action or not, it's their call to make & their karma to bear later. I've seen my fair share of their 'cat & mouse' tactics & the sense of hopelessness & despair felt by the affected users as a result of non-action, bureaucracy or poor judgement. On certain cases, I would not hesitate to promptly take them or even the admins to task until the case is satisfactory settled. Likewise, I suggest that it wld be more constructive to focus your time & energies in dealing with the vandals/trolls, rather than going after bona fide folks in Wikipedia. I'm a tough vandal fighter but not the full-time hardcore type seen in some to date. I've understood your point, but I hope that I've make my stand very clear to u on this issue too. On this note, I would like to end our discussion here. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 18:55, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] May 1st Incident

May I make a suggestion? I'm apparently well-known for being outspoken, and sometimes calling a spade a fucking shovel, but even I would be inclined to tone down the nomination statement for this article. I understand that you're upset, and I would be too in the same situation, but insisting on a GA reviewer of the month or whatever is more likely to put potential reviewers off than attract them. Hell, just think about it anyway. How do GA reviewers of the month get through so many articles? By spending time on them, or by quick-failing them? ;-) --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 22:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I know what u meant, & like u, I can be as frank as my outback mates back Down Under & even when I'm back on this sunny island of S'pore too. As u have reviewed some of my past GANs before, u shld have know me fairly well by now wrt my passion & commitment in researching & producing good quality articles for Wikipedia & SGpedia. When u failed Santikhiri previously, I accepted your decision in my stride without much ado, 'cos I fully understood & agreed as per the highlighted GA criteria & issues raised. I moved on to redo the article even better - sacrificing much sleep & weekends on end, digging for hard to find materials on a near forgotten subject, which was highly challenging esp for someone who is a non-native of Thailand... u know the rest of the story too. Whether the stated request will put off any potential reviewers or not, or even a subsequent fail, a bona fide reviewer like u, would get my msg loud & clear & should be able to stand under a spotlight to fully account on their judgement or actions later, just like the cows when they know it's time to head back home at sunset each day! (I lived in a kampong in my younger days & farm-stays in the outback of Australia previously). Likewise, I'm not afraid to put my comments on record or even under scrutiny later. Most importantly, one has to know to do the right thing, when the time is given to u. Well, someone did get the msg loud & clear earlier (Also note newer complaints from another respected GA reviewer here). If it ended in a state of limbo, so be it, even if it was foretold by the Buddha or Guan Yin! At least I know or disappointed to know, what are the state of affairs or the dearth of reviewers who lack iron-clad bollocks there. Think I should write a short commentary & named this fiasco as the "May 1st Incident" (Yup, I took the liberty to change this discussion header earlier) in my user space & submit it to some cabals for review for the 'Lamest Review Award' next. 8-) Aldwinteo (talk) 05:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, all I'll say is "Softly, softly, catchee monkey". You must decide which monkey it is that you're after. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 22:44, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Look at the whole picture mate, this goes beyond whether the article get GA status or not now - it's a WAKE UP CALL to any monkeys or would-be monkeys!!! As for more monkey sayings, there's one in our Hokkien dialect that goes: "When the big tree falls, all the monkeys scattered" Go figure mate. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 01:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I know what you're saying, and I don't disagree. Anyway, it's "game on" again for the Double Tenth Incident. Let's hope it won't be as traumatic as the Santikhiri marathon. ;-) --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 02:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

To give u a Super High Definition picture of what I meant earlier, see my latest comments to H2O here mate. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 02:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

As we say here in the north of England, you're like a dog with a bone. I'm much the same myself. :-) --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 03:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

As u finally realised by now, that was the outcome I wanted to pursue mate. I'm known for being a relentless fighter from young, at times even pitting against 'Goliaths' alone, even in vandal and troll fighting here too (See the above 2 comments). Fyi, I was previously nicknamed the "Pit Bull" (some say, including my teachers, that I was a Staffordshire Bull Terrier in my past lives!) in school debates & public presentations, even right up to my uni days too. Another up to date moniker as "The Terminator", which was given by my peers & competitors in my profession 'cos of the so-called "fear & distress" when they saw my name in official correspondence or my presence is known nearby. Am I that frightening? I'll be back, hasta la vista baby! -- Aldwinteo (talk) 04:46, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] re: A recourse

Hi, thank you for the note, but I wasn't on the receiving end of anything. I saw that the user you are referring to was making a mess of the templates on the GAN page as well as on an individual article's talk page, so I gave them some (unacknowledged) advice and ended up somewhat helping with the review. The article was ultimately passed. That's it. :) María (habla conmigo) 13:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind, just treat it as an additional info but kindly pass this info to those in need in future. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 14:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:GAN review: 2nd chance

Aldwinteo, thank you for the advice that you posted on my talk page. I appreciate the help that you are offering. Whilst I agree that the reviewer did a poor job, I will not attempt to appeal his decision. This is because, during the course of the discussion regarding the failed GA review, I was informed that one of the sources I had used is a blog. I had not realised that the source in question was a blog, and I realise that my article will not pass a GA review until I remove all information associated with that source. I will remove the information, replace it with information from a reliable source, and then re-submit my article for GA consideration.

Thanks again for your words.EasyPeasy21 (talk) 22:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

The same reply like what I gave to María above under "re: A recourse". Do take note & renominate when your article is ready in the near future mate. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 01:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Multiple copyvio/COI edits

Hi there, just a note that I've responded at my talk. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 07:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

See my reply on your talkpage there. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 12:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

• I made my reply, go read. Oh and btw, do you seriously expect a 13/14-year old boy to know the difference between right and wrong when they themshelves don't even want to admit their own mistakes and apologise for it? Let alone grappling with a little thing such as moral courage to not lie by their teeth and expect that we won't even know a thing about all his BS claims? I don't think so! --Dave1185 (talk) 18:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Regardless of one's age, education or religion, one will ultimately realised whether one's actions done now or in the past, is right or wrong, as this is a universal human quality known & inherent in all humankind since time immemorial. It's usually the case of one's ego or courage (sorely lacked of) that prevented a person to accept his mistakes or even to offer a sincere apology. How I came to get myself embroiled in this case too, was 'cos of an automated alert I received from a special program I used earlier (mentioned previously here) to monitor on certain predefined behaviour on SG-related articles (u may want to check out the history of the previously mentioned user & his final outcome too). The automated program I used so far has help me to 'see' & report any hard to detect troll-like behaviour, sneaky vandalism or COI edits, which most patrollers or admins would had difficulty to monitor or detect earlier. After closer examination of the generated logs, I fully understood your earlier frustrations & aggressive actions (which u claimed to others as 'dirty job' previously) in which Rifleman & his cohorts [3] were unable to see or empathised with earlier. As an uninvolved editor, I follow-up by dropping a note on the user's talkpage, under the section which u created a day earlier, as an additional reminder for him to clean up his acts & also to prevent the situation from escalating further. Despite my well-intended actions & neutrality in tone, they were interpreted as 'bullying', 'unfriendly' & worse suspected to be a likely meatpuppet by one of them later! Based on their responses, I wonder who is dumber in this case or has the world turned upside down! The Buddha mentioned in one of his early discourses that the world is 'sick' & that with developed awareness (like regular Vipassana practice) which not only help one to understand His profound teachings better, but most importantly help one to see things as they really are, esp the law of karma, so as not to perpetuate the negative ones in this samsaric existence. As you've rightfully given a full account of your actions to all concerned now, it's not constructive to dwell too much on this case nor get yourself pissed off again over the previous SHS episode too. One can watch passively by the sidelines & let time or karma do the job instead, which no man or forces is able to stop. Let's moved on, as I strongly believed everyone has learnt much on this episode, & would definitely think twice (or thrice) of one's words (even if it was 2 or 5 cents worth), actions & its likely consequences carefully in future. Namo Amituofo -- Aldwinteo (talk) 04:38, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

• I fully agreed with what you said. Let me just say this for the last time, I always go all out for things and it won't be just the recent edits when I dig into someone's edit for evidence or truth, hence I tend to observe more than I will comment, but it is when I do comment then they will know who has the edge all this while. As for ball carriers, they are just ball carriers... they won't last long and they will eventually outlived their own sense of usefulness for the ball holder. In short, read WP:DGAF. Peace. --Dave1185 (talk) 01:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

As I mentioned before, a leopard doesn't change its spot. I went digging again and found more images uploaded by him in direct copyrights violation, thus I tagged them again. Let us see what that high-and-mighty-one has to say this time. --Dave1185 (talk) 07:23, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I spotted those too, but did not mention them further after I decided to wash my hands off this dumb case. Besides, I knew somehow they would be spotted & cleaned up someday, as mentioned on your talkpage previously. As per this episode, I find it's more constructive to channel my attention & energies on hardcore vandals & trolls instead, like what I did all these while, rather than on those playing on the fringes like this dude mate. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 09:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] There's a problem again

Please read User_talk:Jbmurray#Your mission (should you choose to accept) here. Tell me what you think of it as I sensed someone has crossed his line this time behind my back (he did mentioned trying to avoid COI issue there). It is also clear that the image (my image resolution is 624x420 pixels) uploaded by me was downloaded by them which was then cropped and cleaned up using Adobe Photoshop (their image resolution is 609x381 pixels) prior to it being upload for use on the website of www.israeliweapons.com . Also, I find this double-headed snake of an admin extremely disgusting and I am utterly disgusted by his Childish behaviour. --Dave1185 (talk) 04:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• Please read this page Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images/2008 May 19#Image:MATADOR_cutaway_diagram.JPG and tell me what you think of it. Thanks. --Dave1185 (talk) 07:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

From Wikimedia Commons:Derivative works: "Photographs of copyrighted, non-free two- or three-dimensional works of art must not be uploaded to Commons. Pictures of copyrighted three-dimensional works of art are called derivative works, while pictures of two-dimensional works of art are called reproductions. Examples of derivative works include pictures of sculptures, action figures and other copyrighted works." So the image isn't free unless the model/cutaway isn't copyrighted. Exception is given if it can be justified under 'Panoramafreiheit' (freedom of panorama), but such provision varies from country to country such as the American, English, or Singapore law etc. They may be right on a technical note, but it's still arguable on a case by case basis. Read this discussion & Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#User-created_images for details. If the situation get complicated or slow-moving at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images/2008 May 19, u shld consult the experienced folks at Wikipedia_talk:Copyrights for them to review & advise u further on your case.

On moral grounds, I find his 'backdoor act' rather questionable as he shouldn't get himself involved again, seem like wikistalking & likely COI (he admitted it too), in view of the existing bad blood known between u & him. When he approached a third party to do the earlier 'dirty job' for him, with explicit instructions on its follow-up, it sounded dangerously close like someone engaging in acts of 'meatpuppetry'. Seek Wikipedia:Mediation or WP:Arbcom as a last resort, if u have strong reason to believe that his recurring acts constitute an inherent bias or abuse against u all these while. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 16:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for the advice, I have posted my queries for the good folks there and am awaiting any sound workable fairuse rationale that can be utilised for the image page and have adjust it accordingly pending the outcome. As for him, we shall see who gets the last laugh. Cheers! --Dave1185 (talk) 23:55, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Permission to reproduce photo of Gan Eng Seng School in educational book

Dear Aldwin

We are in the course of producing an educational book, tentatively entitled Character Building Resource, and would like to seek your permission to reproduce your photo of Gan Eng Seng school from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GESS_Henderson_Road.jpg in our book. Due acknowledgements will be provided.

Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you soon.

Louisa Mew Learners Publishing Pte Ltd —Preceding unsigned comment added by Louisa Mew (talk • contribs) 08:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest & the abovementioned notice. No problem, I grant you the permission to use the photo, as long as the necessary acknowledgement is mentioned explicitly. May I know when the book will be released? -- Aldwinteo (talk) 14:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for granting us permission to reproduce your photo. We will dedicate a page in the prelims for all our photo credits. Our book will be published by end June 2008. If you wish us to send you a complimentary copy of our book, please advise me your mailing address. You could email me at shanghui@learners.com.sg. Best regards, Louisa —Preceding unsigned comment added by Louisa Mew (talk • contribs) 02:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sembawang Hot Spring- GA On Hold

I just wanted to let you know that the article you nominated at Good Article Nominations is currently on hold. Please visit its talk page to improve. You have approximately two days. Good luck! Please feel free to ask me any comments regarding this decision. Thanks, ~Meldshal42_{Hit me}^{What I've Done} 19:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm pleased to see that this is moving forwards now, and I think it's over the hump. I do have one question for you though, not to do with the review. I recall that during the Kent Ridge Park review you expressed an opinion that referring to ghosts was disrespectful. How is it different in this case? --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 19:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

As expected, I knew u would posed me this question soon. If u read my previous comments again, even as a free-lance feature writer myself, I would usually refrain from including such stories at all, not just a mark of respect to the deceased, but also with due consideration on the impact to any of their surviving families or victims. I do include them ONLY when it was widely reported earlier (like this recent case) or I had received prior official 'blessings' or 'permission' given either by the relevant authorities or caretaker on-site. The ghostly story (even the Buddha mentioned about their existence in His teachings, along with the Devas (heavenly beings) & Asuras (demons)), including a written Chinese curse (I went on-site to verify - It was written menacingly in red, in Traditional Chinese style, within the walls of the red-brick enclosure) were mentioned in this case now, 'cos their stories were previously reported in the local Chinese newspapers due to a spate of unfortunate accidents & a fatality back then. Why all the fuss & troubles I took u may ask next? 'cos my dear fren, I've personally witnessed or read reported account of individuals who had experienced 'nervous/mental breakdowns', 'peculiar accidents' (some fatal like this well known case), or were 'frighteningly lost' (at the mystical Gunung Ledang in M'sia) while visiting such haunting spots, esp historic WWII sites, sites of murder or mass burials. Looking at the places I've visited for my Wiki writeups to date, mostly unaccompanied or left totally alone at certain 'hot spots', with only the Buddha in mind & my offering of prayers & Metta chants for 'self protection'. You'll appreciate my expressed reservation on this particular issue earlier. Fyi, none of my frens or even my colleagues were keen or gutsy enough (maybe no iron-clad or titanium-plated bollocks) to accompany me during the on-site investigation except for this crazy old Staffy here! To add further insult to injury, some even avoided me for weeks like a plague afterwards! With the time & efforts I spent, the likely 'dangers' I may be exposed to earlier (Touch wood or metal!), coupled with my heavy responsibility towards SGpedia (at a personal contribution of 11 out of 23 Singapore GAs to date), u could understand why I took the reviewers to task for the two crappy reviews I received recently. If u are keen to find out more on the paranormal activities in the region, do check out the real life accounts and investigations done by a group of well-known professionals, the Singapore Paranormal Investigators (SPI) -- Aldwinteo (talk) 02:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your detailed and interesting reply. I tend to have more of a Ripping Yarns attitude to including ghost stories but I hope that I can also be sensitive to the beliefs of others. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 19:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

When the shit happens mate, it'll not be a laughing matter to u or your family anymore. Who u gonna call? The police? The priest or mental institute then? Are u aware or even ask yourself why a month-long religious event called the 'Hungry Ghost Festival' (See also 'A study of the Taoist Ghost Festival in Singapore' done by SPI previously) is being celebrated annually here & widely in the region for centuries? For a 'month break', the Petas (or 'ghosts' in Pali), return to our human realm to visit their loved ones, old haunts etc. As such, there's an increased spate of reported sightings (Yes, it was reported in our Chinese & English newspapers previously. Even sightings of British & Allied soldiers at historic battle sites, who were killed or executed during WWII, were reported or compiled into a book u mentioned in our previous discussion) esp by those who possessed the 'Third Eye' ability or individuals who are spiritual advanced in their training now, or courtesy of their past lives i.e. former serious lay practitioners, religious teachers such as monks or nun. Man, it's really disturbing seeing these 'extra folks' in our midst, with their frightening visage & behaviour, hanging around at places when u least expected, & worse, u got to shrugged it off as though everything is normal! When their 'holiday' is up, some refused to leave & ended up as wandering spirits living (or haunting) among our midst! Some may even 'lumber' with u for quite a while due to past karmic link - maybe former buddies, close relatives, or your worst nightmares, enemies! - even in your own bedroom or washroom! (horrors!!) If u are aware of their 'presence' somehow, how'll u feel & act then? Namo Amituofo -- Aldwinteo (talk) 04:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I wanted to make another admin aware

I wanted to make someone aware of my co-workers experience earlier today. One of our clients Doug Wead as some highly contested and very controversial information on his Wikipedia page. We develop his website and told him we would be willing to work on getting it removed.

I am somewhat familiar with how wikipedia works, but I was sure my co-worker could figure it out without a lot of trouble as it is somewhat easy to use. His screen name is Aarondm. He made some edits to his page and removed some controversial content when one of Doug's critics who watches his page like a hawk kept reverting the changes. Dave1185 began giving him warnings and over the period of an hour threatened to ban him from wikipedia.

My co-worker was yelling and throwing his lunch, so I decided to look into it. I came onto wikipedia and signed up, looked over the information on Doug's page and noticed the information was removed for being controversial. Then I started looking over Aarondm's talk page and saw how harsh Dave1185 was with Aarondm.

He was not a good representative of Wikipedia, and was far to harsh far to quickly. Especially considering Doug Wead is a national figure who is currently in litigation with several national publications for things they have printed.

In the end I would far rather tell Doug that we can remove the negative things about him from his page, or at the very least present the Neutral stance wikipedia stands for.

I noticed that you helped a user who was mistreated by Dave1185 on his talk page. I wanted to ask you for any assistance you could offer. I really do like wikipedia, but as I am no expert or admin I am not sure what to do. I do know that it is completely unfair for a group of Doug's critics to control his page and hold it hostage.

Thanks

Nonpr3 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 05:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Firstly, welcome to Wikipedia! For newbies like u & Aarondm, do read & understand the WP:5P well before u edit or comment, in order to avoid any unnecessary misunderstanding or clashes with fellow Wikipedians in future. Your case constitutes a likely Conflict of Interest (COI) and/or acts of meatpuppetry, which is widely frown upon by the community here, and greatly despised & acted upon by the RCPs, whom Dave1185 is an active member of this group. To give u a quick understanding of such cases in Wikipedia, do read the following links so that u can make your own informed decision on a course of action to take later:

• Wikipedia: Ownership of articles
• A classic case of COI edits & follow-up action by the community
• The final outcome of a COI sockpuppet/meatpuppet engaging in edit warring
• Check out the lengthy & messy saga at Singapore Airlines (including its archives too)
• Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars
• Wikipedia:Mediation - As a final resort when all attempts failed

As for Dave1185, his intention to uphold the principles & integrity of Wikipedia, though well intentional, has caused some editors, esp the newbies, to find his acts rather harsh or offensive to date. As I've commented on his 'heavy-handed' approach before, it's counter productive & 'ungentlemently' for me to comment or intervene on a similar case again. With patience or hindsight, the Law of Karma will show for all to see whether one's intention or certain acts are right or wrong in due time. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 09:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review Second Time

Alright. This is a quality article. I apologize for my nasty messages, I was kind of grouchy. I think the article is rather good, but could you please add some references? That would be all I would need for approval as a GA. Thank you. ~Meldshal42 19:32, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Sembawang Hot Spring

Well, it appears that my apology was pointless. Apparently you just like to make smart comments and really get on my nerves. I hope that you don't treat other users the way that you treated me in the future. Good day. ~Meldshal42 00:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Pse refer to my consolidated reply at the article talk page instead, as it's messy to reply all over the place. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 02:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I need help in Chee Soon Juan's article!

Hi Aldwin! I see that the article on Chee Soon Juan needs a better structure in order for it to become a better article. Can you please help me to find the necessary resources to make it a better article? I see that it has the pictures and references for a GA, now I am quite unsure what will I need for a GA in Chee Soon Juan's article. Please enlighten me. Thank you!

Ruennsheng (Talk) 04:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

To join in the 'GA bandwagon', do read & understand the following guidelines first:

• GA guidelines
• Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography#Tips_for_writing_biographies

Next, do read & observe the style & structure of similar biographical articles, including past discussions, listed on the GA page too. For additional pointers, check out a silimar discussion which I had with a fellow SGpedian here. As for my views on the current structure of the article, it's rather incoherent with heavy emphasis on his political struggles, court cases etc, which seem to promote certain agenda based on the sources used. To improve the content, NPOV & quality of this articles, listed below are some of my suggestions for your consideration:

Early years:

• Personal info
• His family
• Academia
• Career

Entry into politics:

• Political cause
• Notable personal quotes
• Party association or affiliation
• General elections

Legal suits:

• Major court cases
• Resulting impact

At Present:

• His latest happenings
• His next new goals or mission?

Do include more or replaced with reliable third parties references instead of relying on a few selected sources. u could use Factiva, LexisNexis, the Straits Times News Archives or tap on the resources of the National Library at Bras Basah Rd during your archival search later. That's all I could think of now. Regards -- Aldwinteo (talk) 06:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Though I did find non-CNA and SDP sources, this is a good start for referencing. I am now more sure of what to write about Chee's life. Cheers! Ruennsheng (Talk) 06:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)