Talk:Aftermath Entertainment
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[edit] Needs Cleaning
This article needs some cleaning. There seems to be a chunk missing here: "Veteran rapper Rakim signed with the label Legal troubles forced Truth Hurts to leave the label, and Rakim's highly anticipated comeback album, shelved due to production conflict, also forced his departure."
I didn't change it because I'm not sure whats supposed to go there. Also, Rakim is mentioned twice as formerly being in Aftermath
[edit] Who took away Former Artists?
I think it is a useful piece of information and ties in well with the biographies of many other artists' articles on wikipedia. It's also an interesting read, please bring it back. Shabad -6 Nov. 2006
[edit] Affiliate Labels?
It should be noted that while Aftermath "shares" *some* of its artists with Shady and G-Unit Records -- neither of those imprints operate exclusively through it. They are divisions of Interscope Records, proper, and some of their relases do not not go through Aftermath (ex: D12).
Listen, Raekwon is officially signed to Aftermath Entertainment. This has been confirmed by aftermathmusic.com, sohh.com, and hiphopgame.com, and xxlmag.com. These are all reliable sources. Don't delete his name from the Aftermath roster. He is signed, just as much as G.A.G.E and Ortiz!
- If this is true why is Shady Records artists on this page and not G-Unit because Shady is part of the Aftermath family. Throwd Off Click out of Houston should be looked at by one of these great record labels. These young men can be a great investment to some one.
[edit] Grammar
This article is overloaded with horrible grammar. Can someone please correct it?
[edit] G-Unit Records Roster
(moved from the main page by FuriousFreddy)
"If someone would please take the time to investigate this:- http://www.interscope.com/artists/. All artists of g-unit are solely signed to g-unit and interscope the only member of aftermath from g-unit is 50 cent.and fred out of cameron texas
PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE EDITING G-UNIT ARE SIGNED TO INTERSCOPE!
source:- http://www.interscope.com/artists/."
[edit] This is the last time to said
Keep all opinions and all other uncomfirmed statements toward 50 Cent, The Game, The Black Wall Street, G-Unit, Shady Records and as well as Aftermath Entertainment to the talk page. These opinions and bad grammar mistakes make the article look bad and not resourcable. As far as I concerned, I still see Shyne is still on Def Jam, Charlie Baltimore is still a part of Murder Inc, G-Unit is under Aftermath Entertainment, and your facts are not to be added unless you find the right source such as Aftermath Music, AllHipHop, SOHH, Aftermath Entertainment, MTV, BET, etc.... You keep changing it to this and you could be blocked! Thanks for your cooperation. LILVOKA 14 December 2005.
[edit] What's with all these other rosters?
Black Wall Street is not distributed through either Interscope or Aftermath. They dont even have a distribution deal. Furthurmore, Shady Records and G-Unit Records are not distributed through Aftermath. Not to mention that all of these labels have their own pages with the same roster information. Linking to thse labels would be appropriate but to list all of these artists as if they were part of Aftermath Entertainment is ridiculous. A list of former artists is also a nessecisity to provide a history of the label. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DanShoryu (talk • contribs)
- I got another question about the Aftermath/Interscope setup. The way it is, is Aftermath just for show and Eminem and Dre are essentially signed to Interscope, or is there a difference between "owned by Interscope" and "distributed through Interscope"? I'm curious because there was a similar setup with Roc-a-Fella/Def Jam but Def Jam eventually bought Roc, leading me to believe there might be some difference. Stoned Trey 07:33, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] corrections
Mike Elizondo doesn't have anything to do with G. Malone, besides some degrees of seperation through The Game. You must be thinking of someone else. Mike Elizondo recently confirmed that he and Dre were in the process of recording Detox. I'm readding him to the producers list. But changing the brief bio, because it was poorly written.
Also, I strongly disagree with these people saying Aftermath Entertainment is a "vanity label." People claiming that it's "just for show" for Eminem and Dr. Dre are mistaking. Aftermath is to Interscope what Death Row was to Interscope. Dr. Dre started the label with a handful of artists, before he even heard of Eminem. Jimmy Iovine has a lot of say in the company, because he runs the parent label. But Aftermath is a seperate entity. There is also a group in Houston Texas called T.O.C a.k.a Throwd Off Click that needs to be picked up by one of these great labels www.ghetorancho.com. They are free agents they have no manger. DanShoryu 04:18, 19 February 2006
[edit] WTF?!
I don't get it. How can 50 and Game be still signed to the same label, still be produced by the same producers, and still be beefing? Either the entire G-Unot movement and the whole 50-against-the-world shtick is a massive wool over our eyes, or hell, I don't know. Someone clarify this, please! MOD 04:59, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
- They are beefing and they are the same label. It's not that complicated a situation to understand. Dre is not the kind of guy to step in and control everything so there beef is just going on uninterupted.--Ted87 21:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Aftermath Rumors
We can't assume that these albums will come out on the day. Busta Rhymes, The Game, Stat Quo and others are slated to be released in 2006. But if there are any changes to the album date, the internet will provide that. The Big Bang is slated to come out in May. So therefore, The Game's album The Doctor's Advocate is slated to come out on June 6, 2006. That depends on the situation with Busta Rhymes album. I highly doubt the album will be released on that day. People can't assume that these albums come out on the day. The (Game's) debut album was pushed back four times before it's release in 2005. It prevented any oversight between Eminem and 50 Cent's releases.
There are a lot of rumors going around that Bone Thugs N Harmony has signed with Aftermath & Interscope Records. THIS IS NOT TRUE, and that's straight from manager of the group, Steve Lobel.
The BG has signed to Atlantic Records. This is also squashes the so-called G-Unit South issue. G-Unit West, G-Unit Soul, and other so-called G-Unit vanity labels. Just petty rumors.
Mobb Deep are semi-affliated with Aftermath. But they are not signed to the label. Only G-Unit.
Bone Thugs N Harmony is not signed to Aftermath. LILVOKA
[edit] BWS Not An Affiliate Label
The Black Wall Street is not an affiliate label. It, at this time, is not affiliated or distrubted through any other label or other company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Puffykilled2pac (talk • contribs)
[edit] Please do not remove links to usefull resources
Seems like certain members are too quick to assume external links added by Wiki users are commercial advertising. Here is my message in response to Dan:
Hey Dan, please do not remove links to my Game resource sites. The pictures contained within the gallery and the content on the site such as lyrics are beneficial to users interested in the Game and this is not advertising but serving the purpose of leading users to other resources where they can find more information along with other content that would not be presented in Wikipedia.
It's frustrating having to undo changes when I check to see the links once again removed. Cheers, Tony.
Hope others can understand and refrain from repeatedly removing the links I add.
EDIT: apologies Dan, it's the Aftermath links I'm referring too, not 'The Game' links I mentioned. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.139.48.88 (talk • contribs) 22:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- External links should be discussed first on the article's talk page before adding them. A consensus among regular editors of the article should be reached prior to adding it/them to the article. If you wish to add the links, list them here and allow a consensus to be reached. Thanks --AbsolutDan (talk) 02:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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- The two sites I add but keep having removed by other Wiki users are:
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- http://www.ShadyGallery.com - A growing Aftermath Entertainment rooster picture gallery
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- http://www.forum.trshady.com - An active Shady Records and Aftermath Entertainment forum
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- Both are helpful resources to those interested in Aftermath and Shady Records with many emailing me personally to give thanks and few have mentioned they first found the site from this Wikipedia page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.138.208.212 (talk • contribs) 08:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Wikipedia is not here to promote other sites. Your links, although they may contain information on the subject matter, are not so useful that they merit inclusion here. External links should be added sparingly, and only when they contain extensive and valuable information. Lyrics and photos simply do not meet this criteria. Please stop adding the links, especially since they are links to your own website. See point #1 under "How not to be a spammer" in WP:SPAM (Wikipedia spam guidelines). You may wish to also review WP:EL, WP's external links guidelines. --AbsolutDan (talk) 13:10, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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- If many visitors to the wikipedia pages find the external links I add as helpful then that certainly warrents inclusion. Part of why wikipedia is so great is the involvement of many users and the information and links it provide (I personally have found many great sites through wiki external links.
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- If you look at the history of the articles you have added these links to, I am not the only one removing the links. So far you seem to be the only editor in favor of them, and you shouldn't be adding them anyway since they are your site. Please stop adding them until/unless other regular editors agree that they are useful --AbsolutDan (talk) 14:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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There seems to be only you and Lil Vodka who seem to have a problem. The sites are mine and are the only sites I add to the two sections as they are the only two that provide the information (and its why I chose to make the sites, as the contect could not be found elsewhere). They do fit within the rules of Wikipedia and please do not continue removing my links which are far from spam and useful to wiki visitors.
PS: I've added the links to two articles, both of which are directly related. Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.137.170.55 (talk • contribs) 15:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
- They are spam, because you run the site. Adding links to sites that you run is bad form here, and is considered by most to be spamming. Please review the 2 guidelines I provided above --AbsolutDan (talk) 15:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I understand that they can be seen as spam but that is your perception and I am adding the links as it is proven that these are of great help to wiki users and I've come to realize that the majority of Wiki editors will not accept that sites other then those that are official can be helpful. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.137.170.55 (talk • contribs) 15:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has become circular. Unless new points are raised or comments are added by other parties, I will not add anything further, and will treat further link insertions as simple vandalism (spamming). --AbsolutDan (talk) 16:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
What happened to innocent till proven guilty? The links are helpful to many visitors (who have personally told me) so that is clear evidence that you are wrongly removing the links which are far from spam (I do not sell any products, the only text advert links present do not cover hosting costs so I do not make money from it). I'm here to help people, you seem to be doing the opposite. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.139.51.186 (talk • contribs) 17:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lil Kim on Aftermath?
Please show proof and a source that Lil Kim actually signed to Aftermath Records. Thanks. Darkneonflame 02:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Who keeps deleting the producer list?
This list is just as pertinent as the artist roster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.156.39.228 (talk • contribs)
[edit] G.A.G.E. left Aftermath
G.A.G.E. offcially left i think today (March 15) it in the interview on aftermath website. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.117.189.77 (talk) 19:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Eve
Eve's still signed to Aftermath. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hurricaneshady (talk • contribs)
[edit] M. White
Is M. White really assoated with Aftermath Entertainment? The ip address that added it seems to enjoy droping M. Whites name every where with out any other referance except the myspace link. This could be a self promtion thing. I am not knolageable able about Aftermath Entertainment. If any one knows M white is not a part of Aftermath Entertainment please remove his name from the table. I left it thier in good faith, since I don't know either way. R00m c 20:07, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- It's just bullshit. I removed it. --- Realest4Life 20:11, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] King Tee
Wasn't his Thy Kingdom Come album originally a failed Aftermath Entertainment release? => Harish - 11:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
- It was never released, it was shelved, then Dr. Dre let King Tee release the material he recorded in 2002, but NOT on Aftermath Entertainment, because King Tee left after his project was shelved. It's not an AFTERMATH release, because it was never released ON Aftermath. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 14:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Artists questions.
Are there any sources for Slim the Mobster, Nicky Grier, and Hittman? As far as I know, Hittman is a former artist. Should there be tables for the producers and former artists? And lastly, if we have a "joint artists" section, should the also be listed in the "current artists" section? --JpGrB 19:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
- I personally feel that the Artists section isn't suitable, there's no reason why joint artists shouldn't simply be with Artists, separating them does not make the article any more improved. Furthermore, a brief description of each artist is helpful as it sums up their artists in one neat box, as oppose to looking around different articles to learn more. I actually preferred the section when it was like this, though it was understandably removed due to weasel words and lack of sources. It should be brought back if even kept small and referenced, for the encyclopaedic sake of it. Just my opinion. -- Harish - 16:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Joel Ortiz
it says joel ortiz is a former artist. im sure he's only just recently signed to aftermath and im sure he is still on the label. can someone check it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Siwhat (talk • contribs) 07:49, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Focus
Focus has released an album now, so should he be considered an artist too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.164.85.197 (talk) 23:11, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
