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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Trivia 3 Reply to comment at User talk:Moeron 4 Horní Jiřetín 5 Change to Common.css 6 Re: interwiki links 7 Benny Hill 8 commons:Image:RVZ6 nn.jpg 9 Frankfurt (Oder) 10 Wartburg 11 Explain yourself 12 Speedy deletion 13 Reply to comment at User_talk:Lashiec 14 F60 15 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Lausitzer füchse-logo.jpg) 16 Fair use rationale for Image:Body Count (Sega Mega Drive).jpg

[edit] Welcome

User:Sputnikcccp/Welcome - СПУТНИК^{ССС Р} 03:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

• Besides Sputnik nobody is talking to me.
• User:Shanes/Why tags are evil
• User:Elian/comparison

[edit] Reply to comment at User talk:Moeron

I am fixing so that they don't go to Sega Mega Drive/Sega Genesis ... I am trying to keep everything else that same, so if something gets messed up with the post linkage, please feel free to fix it (ie. If it was changed to [[Sega Mega Drive]] and should be [[Sega Mega Drive|Genesis]]). -- moe.RON ^{Let's talk | done} 02:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Horní Jiřetín

Good timing on the Horní Jiřetín article; we managed to both translate the same German article at the same time! And when I went to the German side to put the interwiki link there, I ended up with another conflicting edit note *grin*. Good job on the translation, thanks! -Yupik 10:25, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm quite happy to see a native speaker fixing my mistakes that fast. :) --32X 10:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Change to Common.css

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[edit] Re: interwiki links

discussion start

If you prefer alphabetisation by local language instead of by language code, feel free to change it. The preference for the alphabetisation style is divided right now with 57 for alphabetisation by language code and 49 for alphabetisation by the languages' local names. The interlanguage links are not metadata. The links are displayed in the left toolbar when using the MonoBook style sheet. If minor edits to pages bother you, you can turn off the display of minor edits in your watchlist. To do this click "my preferences." Then in the preferences page click "Watchlist," then check the "Hide minor edits from the watchlist" box. If you still dislike my edit, you may consider [this edit]. Does a direct link really improve the quality of an article? It only made access to another page faster. That is what my edit did. By alphabetising the interlanguage links, the ease of finding the link to the desired language is increased because the users can find their links faster. Also, could you please elaborate more on, "you shouldn't other edits of that kind?" I don't understand what you mean by this. Jecowa 03:27, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

My edit had a serious background and was meant as a preemptive deescalation. --32X 07:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Benny Hill

Sorry, I do not understand the question. Could you perhaps rephrase it? Jerry lavoie 15:57, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] commons:Image:RVZ6 nn.jpg

Hi. Images made by Filatov(С. Филатов) go under Creative Commons Share Alike licence. See [1].--Vayaka 16:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

It was a direct commons transfer from ru.WP with the commons helper. I'll change it. --32X 16:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok.--Vayaka 16:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Frankfurt (Oder)

Hi there, could you please keep an eyee on this article. The same problematic user has started reinserting his tags and theories into the article again. Thanks, ProhibitOnions ^(T) 22:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I've noticed that already and at the moment I'm thinking about my next steps. The last thing I want to do is to start a stupid edit war. --32X 22:39, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, but "Frankfurt (Brandenburg)" contradicts WP:NAME. Only one user is causing a problem with the correct name, and there's no reason to invent a new term because of him. We are not the only ones to encounter his stubborn ways ([2], [3]). Fact is, Frankfurt (Oder) is the legal and preferred name of the city, and there are tons of other articles that follow exactly this pattern of naming - it's Fürstenwalde (Spree) not Fuerstenwalde-on-Spree. ProhibitOnions ^(T) 20:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wartburg

Not to spend too much time searching, it is mentioned both by Polish and Portuguese wikis. Of course the Wartburg 353 was significantly modified, but there are lots of similarities. //Halibutt 10:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Explain yourself

You have removed a link in the 32X page:

(cur) (last) 18:05, 18 May 2007 32X (Talk | contribs) m (14,260 bytes) (Undid revision 131808321 by Duhman0009 (talk): same reason as before - unencyclopedic)

Explain your reason or I shall put it back.

Duhman0009 18:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

It's pretty much unencyclopedic. Excessive use of swear words in combination with a very biased point of view. Mounting the system in an uncomplete way just to blame it again and not mentioning the better games is not that kind of an review I'd expect in a Wikipedia article. And I don't know how the burning of a console is a good source for further information. --32X 19:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Unacceptable. A review, from the most popular to the most unknown website remains a personal opinion. No one's personal opinion is of greater importance than another. What the Nerd does and say at the same time that he reviews the system does not matter. If GameSpot were to use puppets to make reviews, it would still count. Also, Wikipedia is not censored, so bad language is not a reason to remove a link. Finally, the review was about the system itself and not the games, so it does not matter which games he used for examples. But if it makes you feel any better, he did mention that Chaotix is a great game, but he doesn't have it in his collection.

I'll will require a better reason in your next reply or I will be forced to add the link back. Remember, Wikipedia pages do not belong to anyone, they belong to everyone, even if you have the same user name as one of the pages. Duhman0009 20:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Finally, the review was about the system itself and not the games, so it does not matter which games he used for examples. - Says something about the quality of this review. Wikipedia is not censored but that doesn't mean it's open for the lower end of the quality scale. If this was a review on a politician it'd be removed from the article immediately.

WP:EL: Wikipedia articles can include links to Web pages outside Wikipedia. Such pages could contain further research that is accurate and on-topic; information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail ([...]); or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article for reasons unrelated to their reliability (such as reviews and interviews).

Were is this review accurate and on-topic or meaningful, relevant content? Compare the part of the Doom review with this Doom review and you might get my point.

Remember, Wikipedia pages do not belong to anyone, they belong to everyone, even if you have the same user name as one of the pages. - What's next? A user called Thomas will not be allowed to revert changes in Thomas Jefferson? --32X 14:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Says something about the quality of this review. Wikipedia is not censored but that doesn't mean it's open for the lower end of the quality scale. If this was a review on a politician it'd be removed from the article immediately.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitch

Need I put more links for you or do you get the idea?

Were is this review accurate and on-topic or meaningful, relevant content? Compare the part of the Doom review with this Doom review and you might get my point.

I know that you're ignoring the fact that I already stated that the review was about the system itself because you're looking for more ammo to defend your point, but I don't need to repeat myself again because he clearly states that he wanted to focus on the review of the system itself. Obviously, when you review a system or accessory, you need to demonstrate what it does. As for your second comment, I'll resume the FACTS that he mentioned about the console:

-Ecstatically Ugly (that's a well known fact)

-Power connection and Video connection, he states that it's hard to plug all 3 SEGA devices at the same time and he shows what happens when you don't connect the video cable between the Genesis and 32X

-Describes what the 32X does, it runs Genesis, 32X and 32X CDs games

-Describes the carts and shows a fact that they stopped using End Labels

-He states that the 32X was a failure, which it was

-He states that the Saturn was launch months after the 32X and that gamers weren't suckered in and waiting for one of the real next Gen platforms

-Talks about the Neptune

-Talks about the price, amount of games and Mechanical Failures

What's next? A user called Thomas will not be allowed to revert changes in Thomas Jefferson?

WFT are you talking about, I'm saying that you're acting like this page belongs to you because you bare the same name. You're clearly preventing something negative to be placed on this page, you're breaking two rules:

1- You're acting like you own the page

2- You're censoring a page

I will place the link back. Remove it and I shall alert the mods. The link of the Nerd's review is no better or worst than the ones already on there. Duhman0009 21:59, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I know that you're ignoring the fact that I already stated that the review was about the system itself because you're looking for more ammo to defend your point, - Nope, I don't ignore it. I just don't think this video meets the quality standards I usually expect from an external link at Wikipedia. The 70 seconds of commenting the system at the end were harsh but quite fair and (in my opinion) with true statements. But 70 seconds of 9 minutes is a bit too few, when it comes to useful content.

I don't need to repeat myself again because he clearly states that he wanted to focus on the review of the system itself. - When he actually focused on the games for several minutes (f.e. 4:42-6:52).

Ecstatically Ugly (that's a well known fact) - Excuse me, have I read well known fact? {{cn}} to the rescue.

he shows what happens when you don't connect the video cable between the Genesis and 32X - Completely ignoring the fact that this is described in the booklet. What's next? Mocking up the first Voodoo graphics cards for using such a pass-through cable?

For the rest of the list, yes he does all that - in a way I wouldn't talk to my mother.

I'm saying that you're acting like this page belongs to you because you bare the same name. - WP:OR. Just have a look at some of my other reverts at video game related articles. Unreferenced or not notable information or low quality web links have to go while I keep changes that meet my criteria. For quite some time you're the first one who does not agree. If that article would be about a helicopter engine and if it would be on my watch list, I would act the same as soon as a review with the tenor "this helicopter engine is basically a big pile of shit" would turn up. I don't need 3 matching characters in the article name. I don't think I own the Sega 32X article. I don't think I act like I own it. But in my point of view you act like an AVGN fan boy. Looks like we've reached a blind alley here.

You're censoring a page - Let me quote the video (1:01-1:35):

“

The Sega CD had its place in history. I mean don't get me wrong, its a piece of shit. But it has certain appeal. The 32X is the real deal - it sucks. Oh god it sucks. You plop it on the top of the Genesis like they're mating. God, I mean do you think it that's enough add-ons? It doesn't even look as statically presentable. I mean it's just like an ugly doomer. Did they really need all this bullshit leaching on the Genesis? That poor Genesis is just thinking "Oh please god take the shit of from me." It's like getting gang-raped. Both of its slots are getting fucked at the same time.

”

Removing the link to the video is not that much different to removing "shitballs".

I will place the link back. Remove it and I shall alert the mods. And then? Looks like you want to censor me. Anyway, you really should ask some people with an outside view on this case to give some suggestions.

Nope, I don't ignore it. I just don't think this video meets the quality standards I usually expect from an external link at Wikipedia. The 70 seconds of commenting the system at the end were harsh but quite fair and (in my opinion) with true statements. But 70 seconds of 9 minutes is a bit too few, when it comes to useful content.

A 30 minute program has anywhere from 6 to 8 minutes of ads during it's broadcasting doesn't prevent it to be called a half hour show. Also, there's more than 70 seconds of hardware review of it. Everything I mentioned in my previous reply takes at lease 4 minutes (give or take a few seconds) in the video. Remove the show's 1 minute intro and that's about half the show.

When he actually focused on the games for several minutes

Doesn't matter, the main review is still on the system itself. I wouldn't consider any of the 32X game glimpse he presented to be reviews. Go take a look at some of the Nerd's game reviews and you'll known what I mean, this was nothing and I would never go on DOOM 32X's wiki page and add that link as a review.

Excuse me, have I read well known fact?

We're probably not from the same generation. The 32X was out when I was in high school and most people around the net and in my school called the system: The Genesis Zit, The Genesis Fungus, The Genesis Halloween Costume.

Completely ignoring the fact that this is described in the booklet. What's next? Mocking up the first Voodoo graphics cards for using such a pass-through cable?

Ya, cause we all know that most people read instruction manuals. Every year, I work for 4 month at a tax software company. Forget the Help and Readme files, people don't even read what's the the menus or the pop-up bubbles which tells them the mistake they made, they just call customer service right away. I can easily imagine people not plugging the AC when setting up the 32X, thinking it will run of the Genesis' power. So the video cable issue, I'm sure SEGA got their fair share of phone calls on that.

For the rest of the list, yes he does all that - in a way I wouldn't talk to my mother.

I'm sure he doesn't talk to his mother this way either, but go read his FAQ on his website, all of this is part of the show and he says that people shouldn't take it seriously: http://www.cinemassacre.com/Movies/Nes_Nerd/faq.html

Just have a look at some of my other reverts at video game related articles. Unreferenced or not notable information or low quality web links have to go while I keep changes that meet my criteria. For quite some time you're the first one who does not agree. If that article would be about a helicopter engine and if it would be on my watch list, I would act the same as soon as a review with the tenor "this helicopter engine is basically a big pile of shit" would turn up. I don't need 3 matching characters in the article name.

Well if you want to talk unreferenced, not notable information or low quality web links, how about starting with the ones that were already there. I've never heard of any of these websites, how can you prove that they are popular or accurate? Defunct Games, http://www.andysarcade.net, http://www.eidolons-inn.net/, I've never been on those websites, they are not at the level of GameSpot or IGN, so why are they listed?

I don't think I own the Sega 32X article. I don't think I act like I own it. But in my point of view you act like an AVGN fan boy. Looks like we've reached a blind alley here.

Well, I didn't want to use the FB words, but since you brought it up, you're acting like a SEGA fanboy and yes, like most people who constantly hang on the same wiki pages, you do act like you own them.

And then? Looks like you want to censor me.

Tisk, tisk, tisk, you can't use that backwards. A cop shooting and killing an armed cirminal is not a murdurer, he was just doing the right thing.

Anyway, you really should ask some people with an outside view on this case to give some suggestions.

Who, your wiki buddies or the people on screwattack.com? See my point here, who has the right to say that their opinion is better? I just follow the rules and if my links aren't good, then neither are the ones that are there. Hell, none of the statements in that article have reliable sources, it even says on top:

This article or section does not cite any references or sources.

Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. (help, get involved!)

Duhman0009 04:11, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

A cop shooting and killing an armed cirminal is not a murdurer, he was just doing the right thing. - I'm out of this discussion, our points of view are just too much different. I don't think there's any chance to find a consensus. --32X 11:30, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

As you wish, it's your talk page. Duhman0009 12:11, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion

If you contest Sonic 3D:Flickies' Island, use Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion

See: Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Redirects

1. Redirects to nonexistent pages.
2. Redirects to the Talk:, User: or User talk: namespace from the article space (this does not include the Wikipedia shortcut pseudo-namespaces). If this was the result of a page move, consider waiting a day or two before deleting the redirect.
3. Redirects as a result of an implausible typo that were recently created. However, redirects from common misspellings or misnomers are generally useful, as are redirects in other languages.

The redirect in question satisfies NONE of the points here. WhisperToMe 15:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

People make typographical errors all the time is IMHO a pretty bad reason. What's next? `, ´, ‘, ’ instead of the apostorphe? That in combination with or without spaces at random positions and different versions of mixed cases make up pretty much redirects. (Not to forget the infamous "flickie's" ...)

Redirects should help the user finding an article, they shouldn't help him in making the same typographical errors over and over again. --32X 15:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I will recreate the redirect. You should never have tagged it. It does not matter if you feel that typographical errors are not an okay reason; that rationale is NOT okay for a speedy delete (the typo is plausible). Instead use "Redirects for Discussion" WhisperToMe 06:14, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply to comment at User_talk:Lashiec

OK, so I'll revert the changes. I thought it made more sense, as the videogame market in some countries is small or non existant, but I see it's not a great deal. Thanks for the clarification. --Lashiec 01:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] F60

Hallo 32X -

Vielen, vielen Dank! Es sieht jetzt ganz, ganz toll aus!

I'm surprised I got so many of the terms (apparently mostly) correct. :-)

Guter Rutsch! Scbarry (talk) 03:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

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