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[edit] Repeated edits to Alcoholics Anonymous

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[edit] May 2007

This is your last warning. The next time you delete or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia, as you did to Twelve-step program, you will be blocked from editing. GoodnightmushTalk 01:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Alcoholics Anonymous. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. GoodnightmushTalk 01:26, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Your edit to Alcoholics Anonymous

[edit] Message posted on Sunday, June 24, 2007

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[edit] Your edit to Talk:Alcoholics Anonymous

[edit] Message posted on Monday, June 25, 2007

Please do not post copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder, as you did to Talk:Alcoholics Anonymous. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites {{#http://www.peele.net/lib/allornothing.html|(http://www.peele.net/lib/allornothing.html in this case)}} or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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— Craigtalbert 09:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] September 2007

Can you please respond on the talk pages for either Alcoholics Anonymous or Twelve-step program before re-adding the court-mandated twelve-step attendance to either page? -- Craigtalbert 23:36, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, one or more of the external links you added to the page Alcoholics Anonymous do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Tiptoety 22:58, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

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Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, which wasn't included with your recent edit to Alcoholics Anonymous. Thank you. Tiptoety 02:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

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Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Help:Reverting. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Into The Fray T/C 03:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Regarding Alcoholics Anonymous

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. ~ Riana ⁂ 04:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] October 2007

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[edit] Disruptive editing

  • At 18:45 on 12 October 2007, User:207.232.97.13 added copyright material from http://aa-history.com/dickb16.html
    • When references were requested for this material, at 04:08, 16 October 2007 the user added a false reference to another book.
    • The actual copyright source (Dick B.) has been previously discussed and disallowed [1] due to unreliability. [2][3][4].
  • 04:18, 16 October 2007 Added unsourced material.
  • 21:05, 16 October 2007 Added unsourced material.
  • 21:11, 16 October 2007 Removal, without discussion, of material that had been amended as per talk page discussion.

User removed reliable, relevant, reliably-sourced information. — DavidMack 23:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

23:53, 15 November 2007: User added copyright material copied and pasted without reference from Resisting 12-Step Coercion by Peele (see text p 47 in Google books). User even included a line break from the book: "tradi- tional".

  • personal opinions added with a false reference: "As we saw in Chapter 1, this assertion is not true, except to the extent that drinkers believe it to be true.<ref>Jeffrey M. Brandsma, ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidmack (talk • contribs) 00:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I have reported you for disruptive editing. — -- DavidMack (talk) 21:56, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Alcoholics Anonymous, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Brainyiscool 19:41, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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I looked over your edits and have seen that most to that article have been real edits. When looking at the edit summary, I saw the "Only god can judge a sexual situation", which appeared to have no relation to the topic and thus is vandalism. If I reverted any real edits of yours, I apologize. Brainyiscool 19:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Ongoing vandalism to Alcoholics Anonymous

Please stop adding uncited, inappropriate material to Alcoholics Anonymous. You have been warned many times, find something better to do with your time.

80.194.237.22 23:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

This is your last warning.
The next time you blank a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. -- KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 03:35, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] November 2007

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Oxford Group, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. UserDoe 03:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

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Please do not add copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder, as you did to Alcoholics Anonymous. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Jackaranga 03:42, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Please do not add copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder, as you did to History of Alcoholics Anonymous. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Jackaranga 03:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I've blocked you for repeated copyright violations. You cannot simply cut and paste other text into Wikipedia. You are welcome to contribute constructively when the block expires. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JoshuaZ (talk • contribs) 05:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stop Trolling

Stop Trolling the A.A entry. It's pretty obvious you have no clue what you're talking about. It's also pretty obvious you've never attended any A.A. meetings to double check you supposed "facts". You'd find they're all false. (*DISCLOSURE*) I'm a member of A.A and have been for 18 years. See ya around! KoshVorlon ".. We are ALL Kosh..." 17:33, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.

[edit] January 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Alcoholics Anonymous. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Tiptoety talk 21:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] AA Cult-like Behavior

I removed the comment you added about Vaillant because I thought it said little about cults, and because the talk page just got through negotiating about shortening that section. It's interesting material, though, and you might try to work it into the "Vaillant" section. Cheers, PhGustaf (talk) 23:23, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Alcoholics Anonymous

Your last edit did not change the point of view and the last portion did not make any sense. Also you did not cite anythingMedos2 23:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


The point is religious based was the actual court wording, substantial relgious components was the footnote in the case. I advise you to read the reference.--207.232.97.13 (talk) 00:13, 1 February 2008 (UTC)Fred

Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page Oxford Group worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 01:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] March 2008

Wrong button, sorry. J.delanoygabsadds 00:04, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, the recent edit you made to Alcoholics Anonymous has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks. ScarianCall me Pat 00:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

The recent edit you made to Alcoholics Anonymous constitutes vandalism, and has been reverted. Please do not continue to vandalize pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thanks. --Cheers, LAX 00:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC))

Please do not vandalize pages, as you did with this edit to Alcoholics Anonymous. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing. --Cheers, LAX 00:55, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


Warning

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. Mr Miles 01:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Mr. Miles you are engaged in yet another edit war, the last one you attacked well referenced historical facts, this time you are attacking non biased research with little rhyme or reason for your edits. My editing is under attack. For your information a many of the studies you have deleted were reached by consensus by posting them on the talk page. Your editing is outright vandalism of other editiors research and work. You as a self admitted member of 12 step program and what you have undone in the study section appears to push your own POV all the while projecting this defect of your character onto other editors. It has been undone because you are in violation of wiki neurtral tone.This time you are pushing the POV that AA works by deleting studies that have another results. Control studies are control studies. You attacked Brandsma et al the first time and you are attacking it again. You have no reason to delete this study other than to satifsy your own prejudices. --207.232.97.13 (talk) 04:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)Fred

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for repeated abuse of editing privileges. Please stop. You're welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. ScarianCall me Pat 09:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Alcoholics Anonymous

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors.

[edit] June 2008

Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did to History of Alcoholics Anonymous, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Ld100 (talk) 05:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

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Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did to History of Alcoholics Anonymous, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Ld100 (talk) 05:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

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