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Contents 1 Hitler and Mannerheim 2 Krasnoye Selo 3 Lokot Autonomy 4 Template:Db-attack 5 Your Finnish language articles 6 Esa Pakarinen 7 English Wikipedia 8 Fair use rationale for Image:Olavi virta.jpg 9 Fair use rationale for Image:Георг Отс.jpg 10 Fair use rationale for Image:Tapsa.jpg 11 Fair use rationale for Image:1135218817415.jpg 12 January 2008 12.1 Editing others userpages 13 Image source problem with Image:Pekka ja Pätkä mestarimaalareina.jpg 14 Image source problem with Image:Masa Niemi.jpg 15 Fair use rationale for Image:Masa Niemi.jpg 16 Fair use rationale for Image:Masa Niemi.jpg 17 Please use English while editing en.wikipedia.org 18 Help with Eastern Front? 19 Slipknot infobox 20 Risto Ryti 21 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Георг Отс.jpg) 22 Elias Lönnrot 23 Lokot Autonomy/Republic 24 Warning 25 Blocked

[edit] Hitler and Mannerheim

Mannerheim was ethnic German, born in Finland, he spoke German in his conversations with Hitler. Mannerheim had meetings with Hitler many times before the war, in the 1930s, and during the war in the 1940s.

Adolf Hitler had decided to visit Finland on June 4, 1942, ostensibly to congratulate Mannerheim on his 75th birthday. The meeting took place at a railway siding near the airfield at Immola, in south-eastern Finland, and was arranged in secrecy.

From the airfield, Hitler, accompanied by President Ryti, was driven to where Mannerheim was waiting at a railway siding. Hitler, who was much shorter than Mannerheim, wore special high-heeled boots, and had asked his photographers to photograph him only from an angle that showed his height favourably alongside Mannerheim. After a congratulatory speech from Hitler, and following a birthday meal and conference between him, Mannerheim and other high ranking German and Finnish personnel, Hitler returned to Germany, after 5 hours in Finland. Hitler had invited Mannerheim to visit the Nazi Germany, and Mannerheim made his visit in Berlin later the same year.

During the visit an engineer of the Finnish broadcasting company YLE, Thor Damen, recorded Hitler and Mannerheim in a private conversation, something which had to be done secretly as Hitler never allowed recordings of himself off-guard. Today this is the only known recording of Hitler not speaking in an official tone. The recording captures 11 and a half minute of the two leaders in private conversation. Hitler speaks in a slightly excited, but still intellectually detached manner during this talk. His manner of speech has been compared to that which was typical of the members of the working class at that time. Its turns of phrases reflect the speaker's educational level.^[1] The majority of the recording is a monologue by Hitler. In the recording, Hitler admits to having underestimated the Soviet Union's ability to conduct war. (Recording available YLE's web-archive [1]. Some English transcripts exist [2], [3])

Hitler was accompanied by Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel and several Generals of Wermacht. Finnish command received 30 German ferries for attacks on food that was delivered to Siege of Leningrad on Lake Ladoga. Finnish and German Navy made attacks against Leningrad supply route on southern Ladoga with the assistance of German and Italian naval forces.^{[2][3] [4]} Finnish Naval Detachment K had 2,400 Navy personnel and was fighting in the Siege of Leningrad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.11.239.181 (talk) 02:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Пишу по-русски, т.к. писать по-английски не умею.

Во-первых, Маннергейм по национальности был не немцем, а шведом (к вопросу об "Mannerheim was ethnic German").

Во-вторых, Маннергейм был вынужден сотрудничать с Гитлером, т.к. СССР напал на Финляндию, а Великобритания и Швеция не оказали помощи.

Теперь о том что касается Блокады Ленинграда: во время войны финская армия в Западной Карелии дошла до карельского перешейка, по которому проходила граница между СССР и Финляндией в 1939 г. (по р. Сестре). После этого финны, несмотря на многочисленные требования немцев, отказались пересекать её. Так, в частности, 24 августа 1941 на заседании генштаба под командовании Маннергейма в присутствии премьер-министра Рюти и министра обороны Вальдена было решено отказать немцам в их требовании о наступлении. Это не изменила и поездка Йодля в Финляндию 4 сентября с попыткой заставить финнов изменить решение. 11 сентября посол США Шенфилд был проинформирован, что Финляндия ни при каких условиях не будет участвовать в наступлении на Ленинград. Позже финны также заявили о недопустимости регулярного использования финской территории в качестве базы для авиа- и артиллерийских ударов.--Reino Helismaa (talk) 09:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Krasnoye Selo

Hi, Igor! I reverted your edits correcting the status of Krasnoye Selo within St. Petersburg as I was unable to find any supporting references. The copy of the 2005 Charter of Krasnoye Selo which I have describes this entity as "муниципальное образование — город", not an okrug. If there was a change in status, you are welcome to revert me back providing you supply the appropriate citations for the status change. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Могу привести несколько ссылок [4] [5] [6] [7] [8], где говорится, чсто в состав Санкт-Петербурга как субъекта РФ входят, помимо собственно города, также 8 городов (Колпино, Кронштадт, Ломоносов, Павловск,

Петродворец, Пушкин, Сестрорецк и Зеленогорск) и 21 посёлок. Красного Села среди этих восьми городов, как видите, нет. Вроде бы ссылки эти достаточно новые. Кроме того, у меня есть несколько атласов разных изданий, 5005-2006 годов выпуска, где Красное Село также обозначено именно как район СПб, тогда как Колпино, Кронштадт, Ломоносов, Павловск, Петродворец, Пушкин, Сестрорецк и Зеленогорск - как города. Так что я верну статью к своей версии.--Reino Helismaa (talk) 22:56, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Если Вас не затруднит, пожалуйста, пишите по-русски, а то я английский довольно плохо знаю.--Reino Helismaa (talk) 22:56, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Нет, такие ссылки не пойдут. Когда в пользу города имеются ОКАТО и собственно устав города, а также офсайт, а в противовес — только ссылки на рефераты и пара случайных сайтов, то, очевидно, официальные документы имеют преимущество (русская википедия, кстати, тоже соглашается, что Красное Село — это город). Кроме того, ни на одном из приведённых вами сайтов прямо не написано, что Красное Село — это именно муниципальный округ. Источники посолиднее у вас не найдутся? Если нет, буду признателен если вернёте исходный вариант; я пока откатывать не стану as a courtesy. Спасибо.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 02:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Ладно, уговорили. Пока верну, но всё же постараюсь найти источники. А также, повторюсь, на подавляющем большинстве географических карт Красное Село изображено не как город, а как район СПб.--Reino Helismaa (talk) 04:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Спасибо. Хочу заметить, однако, что ситуация, в которой один источник ошибается, и ошибка потом перекопируется многочисленными другими источниками встречается, к сожалению, не так редко. Почитайте, например, что случилось тут — имелась куча многочисленных источников и все были неверными. Официальные документы обеспечивают хоть какие-то гарантии...—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:09, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lokot Autonomy

Please stop vandalizing the LA article.Galassi (talk) 21:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Официально она называлась именно "Локотская Республика" и была независимым (формально) государством. Кстати, немецкая Википедия соглашается с этим названием.--Reino Helismaa (talk) 21:37, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

This is English Wiki. Besides the Russian one clearly states "Lokot Autonomy" with extensive discussion thereof in the talk page.Galassi (talk) 21:45, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

You have been reported to the administration. Galassi (talk) 11:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Db-attack

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Template:Db-attack, you will be blocked from editing. Corvus cornix_talk 22:45, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Вообще-то я добавил туда русскую интервики. Прежде чем обвинять кого-то в вандализме, над хотябы просматриать правки.--Reino Helismaa (talk) 07:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your Finnish language articles

This is the English language Wikipedia. Please don't create articles in other languages. There is a Finnish language Wikipedia at fi.wikipedia.org. Corvus cornix_talk 22:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Esa Pakarinen

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If you want to translate these articles, make a draft first, for example at User:Reino Helismaa/Esa Pakarinen.  Andreas  ^(T) 23:27, 15 January 2008 (UTC)  Andreas  ^(T) 23:27, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] English Wikipedia

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[edit] January 2008

[warning removed as mistake]

I have trouble seeing this edit as vandalism. Taemyr (talk) 17:50, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

And you're right. Thanks for pointing it out. Reino, please accept my apologies. It was a mistake of mine. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 18:20, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Editing others userpages

Please stop editing the user pages of others, as you have done here: [9], [10], [11], [12], [13]. Such edits do not appear to be being done in good faith. If you continue to do so, it will be seen as an act of overt disruption, and may result in a block. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 17:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Reino Helismaa. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Corvus cornix_talk 00:06, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image source problem with Image:Pekka ja Pätkä mestarimaalareina.jpg

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[edit] Image source problem with Image:Masa Niemi.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Masa Niemi.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Masa Niemi.jpg

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This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
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This my edition [14] is not vandalism. I have already added information abought the licensing of this image [15] (Non-free film screenshot). --Reino Helismaa (talk) 20:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

That isn't good enough. You must include a fair use rationale which specifically identities the name of the article that it's being used in. Corvus cornix_talk 21:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Please read WP:RAT, every new non-free image upload on English wiki should have such an image rationale, otherwise the image will be deleted Alex Bakharev (talk) 22:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please use English while editing en.wikipedia.org

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[edit] Help with Eastern Front?

I was wondering if you are active in the Eastern Front (WW2) editing? I need some help with identifying and matching Finnish and Soviet geographic names in Karelia.--mrg3105mrg3105 22:50, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

ОК--Reino Helismaa (talk) 19:14, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slipknot infobox

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[edit] Risto Ryti

Stop making unexplained page moves that violate Wikipedia's naming conventions. See especially Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names). The English Wikipedia uses "firstname lastname" format and the name that is most generally recognisable. "Risto Ryti" gets 482 hits on Google News and "Risto Heikki Ryti" gets five. Prolog (talk) 09:08, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Георг Отс.jpg)

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[edit] Elias Lönnrot

I made some format edits and commented on the impact on Lord of the Rings. Please advise me if this is incorrect in any way. Bearian (talk) 02:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion, all quite decently--Reino Helismaa (talk) 16:21, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lokot Autonomy/Republic

Due to undiscussed page moves I've locked the page. Please use the article talk page to find a consensus with other editors on the best name for the article. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 22:40, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I see you've moved the page again, and again I see no effort by you to discuss the issue with other editors. There is a specific process for handling contentious page moves. See Wikipedia:Requested moves. It's disruptive to take actions like this without consulting fellow editors or seeking consensus. Please don't do so again. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 19:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Warning

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. Jayson 07:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This was not issued by Jayson, but by an IP who decided to issue spurious vandalism warnings in his name - Special:Contributions/90.151.83.105 - earning himself a holiday from editing as a result. Let me know if you see this happening again, and I'll extend the holiday. Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 08:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

In reviewing your recent edits I came across this intentional vandalism of a user page: [16] You have been warned several times to stop. Because you do not pay attention to warnings and you continue acting disruotive this account will be blocked temporarily. When your block expires you may return to editing if you follow WP policies and guidelines. Further blocks will be longer or even indefinite. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 20:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)