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[edit] Messedrocker's Welcome to Wikipedia

Welcome!

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Be honest Aranel, is that a form/automated letter? --MessedRocker

[Edit: Oh, it is.]

[edit] Elftor episodes

Hello. I've had to delete the article Elftor episodes as it doesn't meet the criteria for Wikipedia articles. Articles that are nothing more than external links are not allowed. Basically, what we want to do is provide information to our readers, not direct them elsewhere for the information. If you would like to write an article about the episodes, that would be great. Instead of linking directly to each episode, one link to elftor.com should be sufficient. Thank you. SWAdair | Talk 07:54, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

No problem, my goal was to help people with it, but since it didn't, it's cool. --MessedRocker

[edit] Weebl and Bob episode guides

Actually it might not be such a great idea to write guides for each episode of Weebl and Bob, they might not go down too well at Votes for Deletion. It's hard to tell though. Also I think the transcipt is probably copyrighted, so you should try to paraphrase it and use only minimal direct quotes. Kappa 17:31, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Let me contact Mr. Picking and ask what he thinks on the matter. --MessedRocker

[edit] Category:Stub

Hi Messedrocker - not sure why you decided to recreate category:stub as a redirect, but it's been speedy-deleted since cfd had already voted to remane and remove it. The only way things go into the category are via a template, so there's no chance of anything new being mistakely added to the old name, and it's easy enough for editors to update their bookmarks and watchlists. New users won't even know of the old name (which was incorrectly formed anyway), as it's not mentioned in any of the wikipages relating to stubs. So, unless there's some reason everyone's overlooked, can we leave it dead please? Grutness...wha? 05:15, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hey, I was just saying... after all, you might have a good reason for wanting it back, and if so, it'd be worth hearing it. But you didn't go through the usual undeletion procedures (which was why it was speedied). Grutness...wha? 14:18, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

There aren't any articles in the category - which is one of the reasons why it was deleted. The two you see there are "ghost" articles - they have bad names and can't be removed from the list, even though they're not in the category (don't ask me - I don't know why they're like that). As I said, though, every wiki page that used to talk about category:stub now points people to category:stubs, so I really don't see why you'd want it back. Grutness...wha? 14:38, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] How to transwiki an article

Our copyright (the GFDL), requires that a full record of authorship be maintained for each work. This means we must retain a log of the revisions for everything, including content sent to Wikibooks (re: How to solve the Rubik's Cube).

Please read over meta:Transwiki to get more familiar with the process. Also, a transwiki'd page is not a speedy deletion candidate, especially one like How to solve the Rubik's Cube, which has been here since 2002. -- Netoholic @ 7 July 2005 23:27 (UTC)

I copied the revision history to wikibooks:Talk:How to solve the Rubik's Cube, and logged the tranfer to Wikipedia:Transwiki log. It's up to you if you want to put it up for WP:VfD now. -- Netoholic @ 8 July 2005 02:35 (UTC)

[edit] Accusations

Some pretty serious accusations you made about me. Vandalism. Heh. Y'know, some bad things can happen to the page of someone who isn't careful. Some pretty baaaad things. --Someoneinmyheadbutit'snotme 18:48, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

It'd be a reeeeal shame if something...unfortunate were to happen to your page.

[edit] Interested

Yep, I'm interested in joining the collaboration. ShadowMan1od 05:17, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Thanks for reverting

You're welcome. JeremyA (talk) 02:41, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Username case sensitivity

Hi, thought you should be aware that Wikipedia is case-sensitive, which makes your user signature potentially confusing, since you sign with "MessedRocker" while your username is actually "Messedrocker". —Lowellian (reply) 08:44, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Well I tried registering "MessedRocker" but it changed to "Messedrocker". Should I go to User:MessedRocker and User talk:MessedRocker and have them redirect to the real ones? —MESSEDROCKER (talk) 16:35, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

You probably mistyped it, because registration preserves case-sensitivity. The best solution would be to change to a signature of "Messedrocker", but I guess since if anyone else registered "MessedRocker", they'd be accused of being a doppelganger account of you anyway, so if you want to, go ahead and redirect "MessedRocker" here. You might even register the MessedRocker account as well so that no one else ever gets it. —Lowellian (reply) 18:25, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User:Acetic Acid

Hello Messedrocker:

I'm a little confused by your reorganization of Ryan's userpage. You did good work, but I'm confused as to why you did it. Since it's on my watchlist and I saw the changes, I asked Ryan about it, and he is equally confused. I don't want to discourage you from making helpful contributions, but could you perhaps clue us in on why you picked him for reorganization?

Just for future reference (and as I said, you did good work, and Ryan appreciates it) it's usually considered bad form to edit another user's userpage without their permission. (This excludes vandalism, of course, and is usually overlooked for changes by users who are known to be good friends with the userpage's owner.) If you like, feel free to leave a note on Ryan's talk page. -- Essjay · Talk 06:37, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I do appreciate it. The only problem was that it was too organized. :P Everything in my life is usually messy. Acetic Acid 07:19, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] #wikipedia block

I unblocked you on #wikipedia, it got a bit hectic in there thus I didn't unblock earlier. Jtkiefer ^{T | @ | C} ----- 23:36, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Cheers man, I didn't really deserve it, but thanks all the same!! --Irishpunktom\^talk 10:17, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please contribute to the collaboration!

Girl is the collaboration of the week! Please come grow this article... Mamawrites 03:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Cheers man, I didn't really deserve it, but thanks all the same!! And thanks a second time from helping very narrowly save the entire battle article from deletion, that would've cheesed me off... --Kizor 12:52, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikijunior name vote

Please go to m:Wikijunior project name and vote for a name in the Wikimedia children's project. -- user:zanimum

[edit] Your user page needs less Image:Cowbell2.gif

You have the image Image:Cowbell2.gif on the page User:Messedrocker/Unofficial Wikipedia Humourous Picture Gallery; this image is copyrighted and used in the Will Ferrell article under Wikipedia:Fair use. The use on your user page of that image is unlikely to be covered by use however, and as such is probably a Copyright violation. Could you remove the image from that page? Thanks. --fvw* 23:36, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Sure, I can remove it from my gallery. However, keep in mind I found this image, and did not upload it for the sake of my gallery. Just thought I'd let you know. —MESSEDROCKER (talk) 01:38, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Yup, the history vindicates you entirely. It's still a copyvio despite its primary use being elsewhere I'm afraid. Thanks for the quick response. --fvw* 01:40, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'm just curious as to why you don't want the picture in the gallery. I'm aware of the fact it is a copyvio, however, wouldn't it be more appropriate to want it deleted from Wikipedia, as opposed to my gallery. I'm just curious and all. —MESSEDROCKER (talk) 01:55, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Its use on Will Ferrell isn't a copyright violation, and as long as people want it in that article there's no reason to delete it. --fvw* 01:58, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Palindromes

The film's themes of abortion, pedophilia, and child sexuality had a number of conservatives up in arms about it.

[edit] RuneScape cheats

Hi man! Hey, we are currently under discussion as to whether to move the article to a different name (Cheating in RuneScape)... if you feel it should be moved please add your comments on the talk page. Thanks. Jonathan888 15:36, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] re: Categorization on Wikipedia:A nice cup of tea and a sit down

it reads like an essay. its not a guideline or a howto. are there such articles like it that are not essays? anyway, no skin off my nose. -- Zondor 21:32, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

go ahead, but already done. -- Zondor 22:21, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:A nice cup of tea and a sit down

How charming and un-bureaucratic! Have you seen this related site ? FreplySpang (talk) 22:40, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Japanese tea of thanks

• This is such a lovely thing. Please accept some tea from me, here, as thanks. (I trained for hours to be able to serve this to you!) Jacqui ^{★ 06:01, 11 November 2005 (UTC)}

[edit] Che

If you are going to cut out this section, shouldn't we have at least a summary to replace it? Tfine80 18:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Che Guevara

Hey MessedRocker, I'm just letting you know that I've delisted Che Guevara from Peer review, as it has received no response in the last two weeks. Thanks. «LordViD» 16:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Internet Culture Wiki Contribution

Hey, im kinda new to wikipedia, but im very interested in internet culture and meme spreading ect. I would love to contribute to your internet culture wiki. --Paradox CT 13:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello, just added myself to the Internet pop culture list, did a little work on grouping the various signature codes. Review would be much appreciated! Thx, --Xian 22:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Participant alert regarding Wikiproject on Advertising

The Wikiproject No Ads, created as a backlash against the Answers.com deal, has served an important function in providing a space for users to express their disagreement with the Foundation proposal. While the current controversies about userboxes raise questions about political and social advocacy on Wikipedia, there should be greater flexibility regarding advocacy about Wikipedia in the Wikipedia namespace. Reported and linked by Slashdot and other press sources as a unique and spontaneous occurence in Wikipedia history, it has apparently had some impact as, despite being scheduled to begin in January, not a peep has been heard about the trial and proposed sponsored link since the deal's controversial announcement months ago. Currently, however, there is an attempt to delete the project or move it off Wikipedia altogether. Since the Foundation has provided no additional information and has not attempted to answer the specific questions that participants in the project raised, it is unclear if the Answers.com deal has been abandoned or simply delayed. Until the situation becomes more clear, I believe the group should still have a place in the Wikipedia namespace. Sincerely, Tfine80 00:10, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Just thought you might be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Hogwarts (2nd nomination) because you participated in the first vote. Savidan 21:09, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Birthday!

Happy Belated Birthday from the Wikipedia Happy Birthday Association! JaredW 12:16, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

Thanks for nominating my PC diagram for featured picture! I wasn't aware of that, so I nominated it here (on the english wikipedia), but I guess it's OK for a picture too be nominated in two places(?). People raised some valid concerns about it over there, so I changed it a bit. Maybe I should put a new version (which I think is better) next to the current one at commons:COM:FPC… –Gustavb 00:05, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Solar panel peer review

Most of the issues I noticed are the same as those raised by Nichalp. Oldelpaso 20:51, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Olympic rings image

I am not sure why you are changing the Images of the Olympic flag to the one you are; the colors on Image:Flag of the Olympic Movement.svg aren't remotely close to the real flag. Further, you should really have consensus before doing that. If you could please reply to this message with your reasoning, that'd be great.

P.S. Your AWB is doing something wrong because it's not adding "Image:" before the name of the image. THis causes the picture not to show up. I appreciate your trying to help, but it doesn't seem to be working. Remember to check your AWB edits closely before actually saving them! → J@red ^talk+ _ubx  02:26, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I see. Well, it appears that the image has already been deleted. Do you know why? It doesn't make sense to have an image that's not even close to the Olympic colors. Do you agree with me? It would make more sense to have the olympic flag. Why would it have been deleted?! → J@red ^talk+ _ubx  20:30, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Or I (or you) could make one using the exact same colors and size, so in effect it would be our own creation. I really don't see what the big deal is. → J@red ^talk+ _ubx  20:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image speedy deletion

Hi there, I noticed you've tagged quite a number of images for speedy deletion under CSD:I1 that the image is redundant. However, unfortunately these taggings were not in order, as the other image you refer to is in each case on Wikimedia Commons. On WP:CSD, the criterion specifically states that this is not used for images now on Commons - {{nowCommons}} is used instead. Please check that both images are on Wikipedia, not Commons, before tagging further images in future. Thanks for your help! Stifle 22:13, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Australian flag in your signature

No, I don't use the flag in my signature. I used it briefly in the first half of last year, but grew quickly tired of it. However, as I edit prolifically, you've probably come across it quite a lot. Happy editing, --cj | talk 23:20, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalisation at beginning of paragraphs and MessedRobot

Hello - I noticed that at least in the case of Book the Thirteenth, MessedRobot removed the capitalisation of a misspelled word at the beginning of a paragraph. A cursory glance at the edits by MessedRobot show that this has happened in a few other recent cases of althought->although, but not in every case. You might want to look into this problem. --Constantine Evans 03:42, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Multiple personality" userbox?

I see you have worked on the userbox template for multiple personality disorder. If you check my user page, you will see that I cobbled together a "healthy multiple" userbox (actually a couple of them). This is for people that experience healthy multiplicity and don't find it's a problem to have several minds or personalities. How would I get this made official, or is it too small of a category? I know of only two other wikipedians that fit this description, but perhaps more would come out of the closet so to speak and employ the userbox if it were available. Thanks, --Bluejay Young 22:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I got your message on how to propose the template, now I have another question. How does one... You see what I've done on my talk page, with the one I say I like better, where the letters in "plural" are all different colours? That's an important part of the concept, and I can't figure out how to create a standard userbox in which the colours can be changed that way. Perhaps a graphic should be used. Can you direct me to another how-to? Thanks, --Bluejay Young 20:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Separate

Your bot changed 'seprate' to 'seperate'. The correct spelling is 'separate'. Nohat 20:29, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Your bot also "corrected" List of common misspellings in English. However, 'seperate' is actually correct. The potential for error with automated spelling changes is high. I recommend that you do not automatically substitute spelling changes, but instead do it using AWB interactively. In fact, that's policy per Wikipedia:Bots. -- JLaTondre 21:45, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm JoeSmack, operator of User:JoeBot, a bot account that corrects misspellings. I've corrected several thousand misspellings, and I do them all user-supervised-bot-assisted and for good reason. There are many false positives that AWB will put in front of you; the human element keeps these errors from happening, or at least are reverted after seeing it go through by the operator. Trust me - automated spell checking bots aren't the way to go. JoeSmack ^Talk 22:13, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Award

Thanks! Unfortunately I'm not actually gay, but I appreciate the spirit of the award ;) – Gurch 21:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MessedRobot

Bot flag should be all set. Cheers, +sj + 23:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Reference Investigation

You seem to be highly involved in the project, which is great! Have you considered adding your name to the list of members? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MessedRocker (talk • contribs) .

Sure, will do. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 03:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Medicine reward

Regarding your reward offer for promoting a medicine-related article, how do you decide who gets the money in such a situation? Many people are bound to have contributed to its being featured. BigBlueFish 15:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Updating image versions in Feature picture listings

Hi Messedrocker. I noticed your image updates at WP:FPT and WP:FPV, where you swapped the old png of the mad scientist FP for the new .svg version that was created during its recent delisting debate. Unfortunately, there's more to updating a Featured picture version than that: the {{Featured picture}} tag will need moving to the .svg version too, and if you are going to update WP:FPT and WP:FPV you should also update the main listing at WP:FP. You will have missed WP:FP because it only uses text links and so doesn't show up on the list of using pages at the image page. Finally, a link needs to be inserted in the new version to the previous version, or to its promotion debate in the WP:FPC archives. This is because editors sometimes insert pictures into the FP pages without going through the promotion process, and any picture with no link to its FPC debate is likely to be delisted on sight. It won't happen to this one because you changed the picture version in the FPC archives too, so the new verson is linked from them, but (sorry for piling on so many points) could you please leave the FPC archives alone when updating image versions? The debates there are about the original version of the image, not about the new one, and we do consult them fairly regularly, especially when an image is proposed for delisting (as this one was a month ago).

I am currently working on a couple of bots & a master plan to standardize all the Featured pictures (it's a big job). Before we can start changing versions in articles though, we have to get the listings across the three FP pages the same (I've already run scripts to find discrepancies between them and I have a list of about 60 examples of image versions being out of step), which is why I appeared here so fast when I saw you'd updated 2 FP pages but not the third.

I really wish we were far enough ahead in the process of correcting the FP listings to give you a list of versions that do want updating in all the main articles but that'll be a few weeks down the line yet! ~ Veledan • Talk 12:17, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm very confused. Are you saying I should update WP:FP with the new SVG version, add the featured pic template to the SVG version, revert fixing the image on WP:FPC, and on the SVG version, link to the debate for the PNG image? —THIS IS MESSEDOCKER (TALK) 12:28, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Erm, yes that would fix it! I wasn't actually asking you to do all of that, I just wanted to make you aware of the issues. Basically, when mass fixing images, it would be best to either leave out the wikipedia-namespace FP pages, or to do all of the above so that it doesn't cause problem/confusion later. I (and other FPC regulars) have spent hours and hours during the last two months trying to find historic debates on various FP images prior to opening delisting debates, and occasionally it has been impossible to work out whether an image was promoted or not if the original has been orphaned and deleted, and a new picture has been uploaded with the same title. Thanks for the reply ~ Veledan • Talk 12:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey Thanks :)

Haha. Thanks for the kind words. When you put it that way, I guess I ought to be given an award or something :P (j/k). I'm really kind of a lazy bureaucrat [seems like Essjay and Nichalp do 99% of the work lately]. And as far as knowing the two hardest languages, it doesn't really seem to be that big a deal when you've known them since childhood. And being tall isn't really my choice :P but I wouldn't have it any other way. Anyways, thanks for that message and you're pretty incredible yourself. Have a nice day/evening/night/morning/whenever you read this — Ilyanep (Talk) 03:43, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Seriously, all I do is just stay out of very touchy situations, and when I'm in one I keep a cool head. — Ilyanep (Talk) 15:10, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh...and I do sort of see the resemblance between Isaac Asimov and Alan Greenspan. — Ilyanep (Talk) 16:46, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reward board currency?

Heya - could you add the country-currency of your reward offer? Things are often assumed to be in USD, but the dollar symbol is pretty common and there are non-U.S. dollars in the other reward offers. Cheers, Kickstart70-T-C 01:08, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Endless Online

Hi; I went back and looked at Steve block's argument for deletion. I wish more people had seen my link to the part of WP:V that specifically deals with self-reference in citations about a subject. There are restrictions on what self-reference can be used to verify, but nothing in the article is hampered by any of those restrictions. Captainktainer * Talk 20:05, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for voting in my RfA!

You twerp! <grin> Thanks for the vote in my RfA. It didn't get consensus, but I'm glad I accepted the nomination. Great learning experience! (and lots of thank you notes to write... and yes, each one is being written unique.) Best. Oppose. Vote. Ever. <laughing still> - Amgine 15:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Answeing RFA questions

Good job answering those questions ASAP. It's not that I love getting questions answered, but your not answering them for over eight hours can be seen as lack of committment on your part. Admiship may be no big deal, but if you are putting yourself up to be analysed by others, better not to give them any chance to fault you for trivial mistakes. Anyway I have changed my vote.

Cheers

Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 11:34, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Your vote on my RFA

Hope to see you back there before too long. Happy editing! RadioKirk talk to me 20:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes I feel you are a good user and a good potential admin. The reason for my oppose vote that in addition to your lack of diversified contributions and experience (on WP), you seemed to limit your own role as an admin. I think you should be willing to work on any adminship-type task, and helping out your brother admins and young/other users on any issue. Also, an admin must behave responsibly and maintain the law in conflicts, or else who can ordinary users turn to for guidance and help? Please consider this. I shall be happy to support you in the future. Rama's Arrow 21:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

After getting more experience here, you will eventually have my support, but do not feel discouraged now.--Jusjih 12:45, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bad bot substs

Re: this [1] and similar edits. According to WP:SUBST these templates are on the NOT list, and the #if statement mess is avoidable in any case. Please turn this substing off. Can the bot revert itself? Femto 11:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree, you have produced a mess and should revert your changes as soon as possible! Cacycle 17:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

The bot has also completely messed up infoboxes, e.g. [2], [3], [4]. I have now reverted all your edits. Please never do something like that again and check the results of your bot runs immediately. Cacycle 17:21, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Repair emediatly!! --Stone 20:56, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for Changing Voice Feminization

I joined Wikipedia yesterday and I started the article less than 24 hours ago. Since then a small fire has erupted (flame war), and instead of trying to put it out I am leaving.

The article is truly a stub at this point and I will never look at it again - so IMHO delete the article.

After reading AlexR's opionions of my abilities, it is obvious that I have no need to be creating content for wikipedia. I may be knowledgeable in the area of voice feminization, but knowledge is nothing compared to being Politically Correct and abusive. AlexR flamed - I leave.

Thank you again for changing the entry.

[edit] I don't want to leave

I do not want to leave, and I do not want to fight.

I do not want guarantees that what I put out on Wikepedia will not be trashed by a vandal, but someone that has been adding content since at least 2004 and has had mediations but says "...goes for cis(wo)man. I don't give a bloody damn whether you are familiar with the term or not, or whehter you expect others to know it -- the explanation is just one click away... " is not something that I want to fight.

I am TransGendered ! And I didn't know what ciswoman meant, but I left it and added (Genetic Woman) after I looked it up. The additional comment was deleted and right now I do not even know weather it says ciswoman or what.

If you look at the history, you will see that I tried to focus on the article, and gave up because I was spending so much time mediating with AlexR. - I ended up deleting all of the discussion due to it being more of a flame than anything that was useful. Yes, I realize that it is still in the history.

I never posted on any message boards because I did not like the flames and abuse.

Since you were the one person that looked like and administrator, I sent you the message and I will leave the article alone for the time being.

I may pick it up in the future, but right now it is a stub at best.

Voice feminization is something that is starting to mainstream, and when I added that to the article, it was deleted without comment. Having to justify every utterance is not worth it. Especially when the person requiring me to justify them " ... [doesn't] give a bloody damn ..."

I appriciate your time you have taken with the article and with me. If I do come back, I will let you know.

Thank you

VoiceOfOne 04:36, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for updating the U.S. Presidents barnstar. General Eisenhower • (at war or at peace) (History of War) 02:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:US Presidential barnstar.png listed for deletion

Joe Beaudoin Jr. ^{Think out loud} 02:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Topics by country

Oh, absolutely do whatever you want with it. I had completely forgotten about its existence, but I probably won't actually do anything with it anywhere. Feel free to move it, change it however you like -- I do think it could be useful, though there are some issues. Not all of those titles are necessarily standard, for example, and countries whose names have a "the" are broken -- "Culture of the Ukraine" vs "Culture of Ukraine" and "Geography of the Central African Republic" vs "Geography of Central African Republic". But anyway, please do do something productive with it. Tuf-Kat 00:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

For participating in my insane project and surviving, here is a present! Enjoy! Linuxbeak (drop me a line) 01:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Have a barnstar!

		The Surreal Barnstar
		For adding a little special... flavor to wikipedia with your vandalism no-revert ON WHEELS!!!!! day, I award you this Surreal Barnstar. digital_me(TalkˑContribs) 21:43, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your signature

Très cool. —Nightstallion (?) 08:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! I like your signature, too. —THIS IS MESSEDOCKER (TALK) 10:53, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! You might want to change the PNG to have a transparent background, though; it looks funny on my talk page. ;) —Nightstallion (?) 10:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I have always wanted to do that, problem is that I really don't know how to. —THIS IS MESSEDOCKER (TALK) 11:21, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I just did it for you. =] Still looks funny when one has been to your user page (purple text with blue R:), but I think it's better in general now. ;) —Nightstallion (?) 11:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other Languages

Lets make a pig latin wiki. Allay ethay otheray anguageslay avehay eenbay akentay. Roffler 21:33, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

LoL!!11 omg lyke u shud start an AOL wiki cuz lyke if we dotn then who right n if u ASL peepz an they are 12 we cud teech them wut wikipedia is!!!1 (ps ASL??) Roffler 17:59, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Medical dictionary wiki

Saw your proposal MessedRocker,

Wasn't WikiMD alreayd extant? ShakespeareFan00 14:53, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Random user asked me a question about vandalism and I'm not exactly sure what to do with it

Someone just put this on my userpage. I don't really know why, because I'm not an admin or even very active at all here. All that really ussually happens on my talk page is Cowicide complaing about his block on wikinews. I'm really not sure where exactly to put it. It doesn't sound like simple vandalism, but not really a content dspute, (well it kinda is, but its not against an entity who stays for any amount of time). I was hoping you could tell me who the proper notice page would be. (Isn't life easier on wikinews with just n:WN:ALERT?). Thanks.

Of late, there has been a spam of newly registered users and annoyomous users trying to remove certain data from the article. While most article cites general personal data on personalities in wikipedia on a neutral basis, these editors have been removing certain data without cause to suit their taste (see Wikipedia:NPOV). Such acts have been rampant since March 2006 (check the article's history), and such behaviour can be reflected as Wikipedia:Vandalism, and this article needs Semi-protection status against such crisis. I need your help in solving this problem. Thanks. Mr Tan 17:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Happy editing Bawolff 02:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] YTMND wiki

Hey Messedrocker, I'm a sysop here and a b-crat at the YTMND wiki, which you have so helpfully contributed to. I'd like to talk to you about your contributions, and the possibility of creating a bot to do cool stuff there. Would you be able to assist? -Mysekurity ^[m!] 19:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User page vandalism

Thx for reversion -- Samir धर्म 02:41, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of mathematicians

That list is updated by a bot (you should have checked the page history or the talk page). With sincere respect, my bot will overwrite your changes when it updates the page tomorrow. I suggest you first state your reasons for splitting the page at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics. Depending on the discussion, I may program my bot to respect the subpages you created. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:41, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Nonsense

When did i add nonsense? Or is this backlogged from the Kynthegame incident? Roffler 02:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your signature

Hello there, I was wondering if you would please modify your signature to conform to the guidelines laid out at Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. The general guidelines are that signatures shouldn't contain images, they shouldn't contain unnecessary internal links or any external links, and they shouldn't be unnecessarily long in Wiki source. The reasoning for this final bit is that overly long signatures tend to overwhelm the actual comments in edit mode, making it hard to track down and respond to specific comments. You can fix your signature by removing any images and external links, any unnecessary links (like links to Wikipedian organizations, articles, or subpages in userspace), and removing excessive color, font, and formatting code. Thank you. --Cyde↔Weys 02:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Messedr͏̈ocker --SPUI (T - C) 04:04, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Blah, it looks fine in the edit window but not when displayed. Presumably it depends on fonts. --SPUI (T - C) 04:04, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Umlaut (diacritic)#Entering umlauts and tremas via special key sequences - "Unicode also provides the double dot as a combining character U+0308." --SPUI (T - C) 04:12, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

How about using a non-latin character to make the combining character show up better? MESSEDя̈OCKER :Regards, Charlie^{( t | e )} 04:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AAAAAAAAAAA!!!

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[edit] Are these bounties yours?

66.41.66.213 appears to have added templates offering a $20 bounty from you to a large number of articles. Are these indeed authorized by you? If not, you'll probably want to remove them before anyone gets the wrong impression! I'll help (if I'm online again before it's done) if you tell me which are supposed to be there and which aren't. --Icarus 16:35, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

here, here, and here just to name 3. Might want to look at the contributions of 66.41.66.213 to find any more. ---J.S (t|c) 19:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dear James

An asterisk barnstar for reasons known only to you and me...

...and another one for being so kind, friendly and thoughtful! You rock, my dear James!

Thank you for everything, my dear James! :) I hope you like my gifts... it's the least I can do as a token of my gratitude for all the lovely gestures you've offered me. I hope you're doing great, and to see you around real soon! Big hugs, Phædriel ♥ tell me - 00:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Standards

On your edit to the above page, it appears that you inadvertantly truncated the article, which I reverted. Do you use Mozilla Firefox with the Google Toolbar? There is a known bug that will cause content to be truncated. If you think this is the case with you, please de-install Google Toolbar until this bug is fixed. --rogerd 05:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks from Northenglish!

Hi there! Thank you for voting on my recent request for adminship, which did not succeed by a vote of 3/14/3. Not to worry, though; I am far from disappointed. The vast majority of the votes, even those in opposition, were quite positive. To be honest, I was not expecting it to succeed, and nominated myself on a bold spur-of-the-moment decision. Apparently, I'm not quite as experienced as I thought I was--I was sure I registered in February rather than April--but never fear! Emc² said it best: "Besides, you don't need to be a sysop to write good articles." I'll just continue doing what I'm doing, and perhaps I'll see you again in three months' time. -- Northenglish (talk) -- 03:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, it was simply too soon for me, a problem I foresaw when writing my nomination statement. In the meantime, I'm sure I'll see you around! -- Northenglish (talk) -- 04:50, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Welcome back!

Yup, I'm back. Thanks for the well-wishes! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 21:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For being bold and diligent in removing questioned text from Dave Kilminster, I award you The Editor's Barnstar. Keep it up! Yanksox 03:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Thank goodness

Say, do you have any plans of bringing back the username from your old account?

Actually, that was exactly the same thing I was going to ask you. Any ideas? --HRE 08:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] too much trivia!

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[edit] A request for help from your bot

I wish you a happy vacation, and would like to ask some help from you and your bot. Some frequenly used images have been uploaded to Commons, and I want links to them redirected to their new names. The images in question are:

• Image:2 out of 5.png -> Image:2of5.png
• Image:2hv out of 5.png -> Image:2hvof5.png
• Image:3 out of 5.png -> Image:3of5.png
• Image:3hv out of 5.png -> Image:3hvof5.png
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• Image:5 out of 5.png -> Image:5of5.png

Could you assist with this? Thanks in advance. Conscious 12:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not really talking about redirection, but rather about replacing all links to, say, Image:2 out of 5.png in Wikipedia articles with links to Image:2of5.png. Conscious 07:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You've got a Thank you card!

Open your card!

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Dear Jamie, I've been dying to talk to you for the last couple of days, but trust me this is one helluva busy week for me! And although I was following the RfA order, I'll gladly jump over to you, I just need to! :) Your awesome support made me roll on the floor with a full hearted laugh, and even now that I remember it, I smile again. But most specially, you wonderful co-nom moved me all inside, and made my stomach tingle with emotion. We've been through much together, and I'm sure we still have much more to go through; but as long as a great friend like you is by my side, I know I'll enjoy the trip. You rule, J! :)
With a big hug, your friend,

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[edit] Oh! and...

... don't worry about the size of my Talk page, baby - let me enjoy all those beautiful words for a while before we bury them into a dusty archive. Everytime I see it now, I feel like screaming "They love me! They reaaaaally love me!" ;) Hope you return from your vacation soon, and that you're enjoying it, dear J! ;) *Hugz* Phaedriel ♥ The Wiki Soundtrack!♪ - 20:47, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Hah, ok, dear James, sounds like a plan :) wanna do the honors? you have my full trust to stick your hands in my talk page and archives ;) Btw, are you back from your vacation yet? I really missed you lately... hugz! Phaedriel ♥ The Wiki Soundtrack!♪ - 03:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Jennifer?

Nope. Jkelly 16:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

I gone crazy then. But i am all right now. Thanks. --Philip1992 16:15, 8 August 2006 (UTC)Philip1992

[edit] Thank you

Why thank you for your good faith vandalism to my user page - it made me feel loved. :P Cowman109^Talk 22:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale

Hello, I see you are adding some (very needed) fair use rationales! Great job! I just wanted to let you know that I have improved (I hope) one of those, found on Image:175 sami omar alhussayen.jpg. I hope it will help you in the future. Don't be shy to ask any questions. Renata 13:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I stumbled upon your question: I think that 'sure, we can'. After all, it is those mirrors sites who should worry about respecting copyright and that would be affect by any legal trouble, not us. Our goal is to write the best encyclopedia, and we should not worry what some profit-greedy mirror does.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  19:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

My point is exactly that: that's their problem. Of course, I might be wrong, but there are too many other things to worry about than "poor" mirrors not getting in trouble. Renata 19:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WebBrancusi

Thank you for providing the fair-use rationale. Very helpful. Antidote 00:11, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slight Messedrockerbot error

Howdy. Obviously this is really no big deal at all, but I saw Messedrockerbot making this edit to a closed RFA. Ideally, it would be nice if Messedrockerbot did not make edits to RFA's. But again, as it doesn't really alter the page much at all, no biggie. Happy editing! -- Where 16:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

True, but I would still disagree with modifying archives that are not supposed to be modified based on principle. But, your call. -- Where 19:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA -- YTMND

Sorry, I've fixed it. Maurreen 01:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Slight Messedrockerbot error

Howdy. Obviously this is really no big deal at all, but I saw Messedrockerbot making this edit to a closed RFA. Ideally, it would be nice if Messedrockerbot did not make edits to RFA's. But again, as it doesn't really alter the page much at all, no biggie. Happy editing! -- Where 16:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

True, but I would still disagree with modifying archives that are not supposed to be modified based on principle. But, your call. -- Where 19:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA -- YTMND

Sorry, I've fixed it. Maurreen 01:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Fair use disputed

Hi Messedrocker. I just wanted to let you know that I've placed {{fairusedisputed}} on two images that you recently wrote fair use rationales for, Image:Curtis stone.jpg and Image:Cory-spinx.jpg. You can read my reasoning on the description pages.

I'd also like to encourage you to put more detail into your rationales. For example, the source on Image:ForemanGold.jpg is very likely not the original copyright holder, so the cookie-cutter claims about affecting its market value are not backed-up. For all we know, the image could be owned by a stock photo company. Best regards ×Meegs 16:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

The worst case, though, is that the subject dies or becomes otherwise inacessible during the period that we're using the unfree image; in that case we've lost the opportunity forever. I have seen many articles cycle through unfree image after unfree image before someone finally contributes a free one, but it does happen.

The free culture movement is growing quickly, as evidident in the explosion of CC-licensed images on fickr.com, so hopefully the situation will be getting better. On top of Wikipedians taking photographs, some people, including Jimbo, have had success asking people to freely license images of themselves. It's also possible to ask professional photographers (even paparazzi-types) to license their unpublished images of some less accessible people and locations. I think this process will start to take-off one of these days. After all, it's a great deal for them: they get an image that would otherwise be collecting dust published, and get attribution on one of the 20 biggest sites in the world. ×Meegs 04:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

That's a noble goal. It is slow work, whether you are contacting the subjects themselves, asking independent photographers, or stalking them with a camera. There's been a lot discussion at Wikipedia:Publicity photos during the last few weeks (quick summary: "publicity photos" are just as undesireable as other unfree photos). If you're looking for advice on this project, I'm sure the people there will have some. Wikipedia:Example requests for permission's watchers might also be interested in this kind of proactive campaign. If the project doesn't take off, at least make sure that you praise the hell out of anyone you come across that's uploading hard-to-get freely-licensed photos. Best regards ×Meegs 10:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Audio Engineering Page

Hi Messedrocker, I am new to wiki media, but I have signed up as an advisor on your audio engineering wikiversity page. I have some expertese on the subject as an electrical engineer working in amplifier design, and would enjoy to share whatever I know that might help people. Robhingle 00:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Resolving a dispute

Hey, this is the dispute I would like help with: One Kansas City Place

and Talk:One Kansas City Place

This unknown IP address came on and changed some information on the building, claiming that Bank of America doesn't really have a large presence in the building, I didn't ever say he was wrong, I just told him he needs a verifiable source on this information. He kept re-editing it and finally said that he's been here longer than me, and accuracy is more important than having verifiable sources. here is a quote of his last reply on the article discussion:

Excuse me, KCMODevin, I know Wikipedia's rules very well, I've been here a lot longer than you... one of its fundamental principles is the search for truth. I'm not going to allow you to supplant my correct information with your incorrect information. The Emporis page has very, very little about the building. Nothing else on this article is cited, so what does it matter? If we went by your rationale, the entire article would have to be deleted. Just go there and look for yourself. Would you like me to take a picture of the 1KCPl video directory? I live and work downtown, and know plenty about all this. The building's largest tenants are Bryan Cave (one of the 50 largest law firms in the US, based out of St. Louis) and Ernst & Young (an accounting firm). Both occupy multiple floors in the tower. Bank of America has a large branch in the building's lower lobby, and that's it. I have changed the article back accordingly. Some people... 65.28.2.218 12:32, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I forgot to mention he also tried to reorder the images because his were "prettier" than mine... (at first, he removed mine from the page) I had to explain to him that the images were ordered like that because if they weren't, the text itself would have un-needed spaces/blanks and wouldn't be properly aligned.

I'm not saying his information is incorrect, but when he edits information on the building without sources, I have to edit it back. I am actually somewhat offended by some of his comments that seem to belittle me because I apparently haven't been here as long as he has... I need help getting this dispute resolved.

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[edit] Disputed

Hi Messedrocker. I'm sorry to say that I've disputed another of your fair use rationales, Image:MileyCyrus.JPG. It may have problems with FUC#1 as the previous two, but I've written only about problems stemming from its uncertain source. If we do not know who owns an image or what they use it for, we can not evaluate the factors of its fair use. Regards. ×Meegs 22:40, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

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