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Contents 1 Archived talk page 2 Statistics 3 Happy First Day of Spring! 4 SS Kiche Maru reference 5 (reply to User_talk:Koplimek#Kickermaru) 6 Thank you 7 Mlimo 8 S.S. Valencia 9 Speedy tag removed 10 SS Dakota Prairie Public Radio 11 Revision3 Shows 12 Vandalism warnings 13 Welsh Premier 14 Yvo De Boer pic has CC 2.0 15 History of Africa 16 RE User:Pika62220 17 "Nonconstructive" editing

[edit] Archived talk page

I have set up an archive for you, per the request on my talk page. In the future, just cut-and-paste any old discussions from your talk page here and paste them into the archive page I created for you. Some pages you might want to read include WP:USERPAGE and WP:SUBPAGE which help explain more about how to maintain your userspace... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 15:38, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics

In the 1 day or 24 hours before the Jimmy Wales talk page was protected there were 69 edits. 5 of them were edits where someone removed comments or information that someone else had added, I assume because they thought the comment was disruptive or trolling etc. 1 of those 5 was someone removing their own comment, I think because they had added it to the wrong section

These are the ones where something significant was removed or reverted, i.e. the "diffs" where the new version has a paragraph missing or a whole edit that someone else added missing. I.e. a big block of yellow

• [1] SBPrakash reverted her or him self for putting information in the wrong section
• [2] Doc glasgow removed a question that had a source by an IP address asking why there was "no mention of his alleged expense "rort"
• [3] Doc glasgow removed the same question as above after an administrator had put it back
• [4] GRBerry removed a list of news article headings without links that looks more like a rant than an attempt to add sources
• [5] Doc glasgow removed a ranting question asking why the "expenses rort" information wasn't included

There were 69 to go through so I had to automate the process, so I might have missed some. I don't think I did though. So by one very simplified way of looking at it there were 4 disruptions that someone thought were serious enough to remove. If you're interested, read them and see if you think they should cause the page to be protected. AntHolnes (talk) 17:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Happy First Day of Spring!

[edit] SS Kiche Maru reference

Hi Ha! and thanks for adding references to SS Kiche Maru. I noticed that one reference ((1879) Proceedings of the United States Naval Institute. United States Naval Institute, 1239.) bears an 1879 publication date, whereas the typhoon took place in 1912. Is a date available for the edition that refers to the sinking of Kiche? Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 01:38, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't have the date of that specific issue - I used the ISBN and the Template Builder at Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Tools to build the cite and it's given that date. It's also the date Google Books gives. The reference has an URL to the publication at Google Books within it though, if you want to read it. It lists other dates of 1904, 1912 and 1905 in the snippet. Is it possible the proceedings were first published in 1879 and were then reissued each year? Ha! (talk) 02:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

That's a possibility. I don't have specifics, though. Thanks again. Fg2 (talk) 05:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was wrong about getting the date from the ISBN. I got the reference from the Google Books URL the reference links to and it doesn't have an ISBN listed there so I can't have (and they didn't have ISBN's then anyway) It's likely Google Books just has the wrong date, I'll remove it. Ha! (talk) 08:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] (reply to User_talk:Koplimek#Kickermaru)

Hi Ha, no I can't remember the 'maritime/merchant' website that had Kichemaru info. right off hand. I'll post it when I come across it again. I saw the wiki article you started on the S.S DAKOTA. Thanks for that, she's a ship worth remembering. I don't know if you know it or not but there's a striking photo of DAKOTA sinking by the bow eerily like the Titanic. Maybe it can be cleared and used for Wikipedia. It's at this URL: www.cthistoryonline.org/cdm-cho/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/cho&CISOPTR=9318&CISOBOX I never saw this photo before and found it while searching Altavista for the Kichemaru/merchant website. I always logged onto Altavista years ago for the Kichemaru site and it was always there so I went back searching. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koplimek (talk • contribs) 12:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

That's a striking image. It looks like it's copyrighted so it probably can't be used as an image directly in the article but it's worth adding to the external links. The original is probably not under copyrighted any more though - I wonder where it is Ha! (talk) 14:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Gladly accepted. Thank you. --81.159.211.87 (talk) 20:10, 6 April 2008 (UTC) Formerly Alchemy12

[edit] Mlimo

Hey Ha! Thanks for the tagging work. I must confess I was mighty confused when I saw the above article tagged by you with {{db-imgcopyvio}}. If this wasn't just a mixup, please note that that tag is for an image file that has been uploaded in violation of someone's copyright. For text that violates copyrighted material, use {{db-copyvio}}. Cheers!--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, that'll be why I got confused when trying to add an URL to the tag. Ha! (talk) 12:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] S.S. Valencia

Hi again Ha, have you ever heard of a steamship called the S.S. Valencia? She was wrecked January 22 1906 off Canada. The famous phrase "Nearer My God to Thee" was allegedly sung by the passengers on this ship as they awaited rescue before dying and re-counted by passengers of Titanic remembering Valencia from newspaper articles. Here's a URL with some stats on this horrible disaster: www.historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=7382 Some Canadian filmmakers were supposed to be making a documentary on this tragedy. Maybe this is another ship/disaster that deserves a Wiki article. Koplimek (talk) 12:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

It looks like there already is an article on it at SS Valencia. You seem to know a lot about steamships, I wonder if there are any more out there that are notable - perhaps we could collaborate on creating an article or two related to them? Ha! (talk) 14:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

wow! thanks for that Ha. I didn't know an article existed here about the Valencia. I should've known though. It's been a while since I even checked Wiki about Valencia. Seems the article has been around since late 2006, a little over a year. I've always typed in "S.S. Valencia" or plain "Valencia" looking for a disambugation. But these two terms will yield nothing. Yes, shipwrecks are interesting, most people are familiar with the Titanic, Lusitania, Morro Castle, Andrea Doria. Those famous wrecks impels one to look at and search lesser known wrecks like Kiche Maru, Niagara, Corsican, Vestris. I wish someone would find the S.S. Waratah(1909) lost on maiden voyage I believe, without a trace. All of us(meaning us posters) are going to have to do some good searching to find info on Kichemaru ie photo. Everyone has to be patient. I believe info will start surfacing soon when we all look. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koplimek (talk • contribs) 14:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy tag removed

Hey there. That Airnav article probably will be worth expanding, as it's on almost every airport article as a reference link. I cleaned up and tagged, let me know what you think - I could be wrong on this, but seems notable. Tan | 39 00:04, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

OK. I'll see if I can help expanding it. Ha! (talk) 00:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SS Dakota Prairie Public Radio

hey Ha, I tried, am still trying to download the Prairie Public Radio broadcast about the SS Dakota you included in the references. It's not playing in Windows or Mozilla. If it's playing on your end please let me know how I can download the program. I love the Prairie Public Radio broadcasts even though they provide the transcript of what's actually being aired. To hear another one of their broadcasts that I uploaded a year or two ago, go to pioneer aviator Arch Hoxsey in the links section of his page. This particular pilot made the first airplane flight in the state in 1910. I'd love to hear some more of these, they are very educational. Thanks Ha. Koplimek (talk) 15:24, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• Ha I found that the Prairie Public radio program for February 6 2006(linked on my talk page) plays just fine. It the linked Prairie Public radio program for March 3 2006 in the SS Dakota reference section that doesn't play. Thanks once again. Koplimek (talk) 16:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Yea, you're right, it doesn't play. I couldn't find the link you mentioned though. Ha! (talk) 00:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Revision3 Shows

Hey, I have made a concept page for the Revision3 Shows article in my sandbox: User:Cyzor/Sandbox#Revision3_Shows. I think it's ready to go live, what do you think? Cyzor (talk) 15:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I put the page up, if you want you can help me with expanding it and adding references.Cyzor (talk) 18:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism warnings

Hi. Thanks for your work in vandal patrol. Please be sure to sign your warnings by typing four tildes (~~~~) so admins looking at your warnings can easily tell when they were left relative to the user's edits. Thanks. Toddst1 (talk) 23:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

• Fixed. Thanks for the heads up. Ha! (talk) 23:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welsh Premier

The short answer is no - only two clubs claim to be professional out of 18 and no club manages an average attendance of over 800.[6] пﮟოьεԻ 57 07:13, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yvo De Boer pic has CC 2.0

I think there has been a misunderstanding. Image:Yvo de Boer.jpg is from flickr. See here[7]

It has a CC Attribution 2.0 Generic license.

I don't understand why you are trying to delete it. Custodiet ipsos custodes talk 18:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not trying to delete it, hence the misunderstanding.

• Someone else (not me) placed a speedy deletion tag on it [8] because you didn't specify the precise source.
• I noticed the speedy deletion tag, found the original page the image was on at flickr, added the source to the Wikipedia image page and removed the speedy deletion tag, so your image wouldn't be deleted [9]
• I then copied the image from Wikipedia to Wikimedia Commons [10] as it's a good idea (see bottom of Wikipedia upload page) to upload images onto Wikimedia Commons instead of Wikipedia, as Mangojuice suggested on your talk page in May last year [11].
• Then I added a tag to the Wikipedia image page to indicate that it's been copied to Wikimedia Commons.

Usually a bot would check that it's been copied and then delete the Wikpedia image so that the Commons one is used instead. In this case, while I uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons I also uploaded a higher resolution version from the Flickr page. As a result the bot couldn't verify that it's the same image. I've changed the one on Commons to the same bit for bit (identical) version that was on Wikipedia so the bot can recheck it. The net result will be that the image is on Wikimedia Commons instead of Wikipedia (and then I'll upload the higher resolution version) so that all Wikipedia projects can use it. Ha! (talk) 20:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] History of Africa

My contributions to the african history subject is valid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.199.211.187 (talk) 01:17, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

No, they're not, they're racist vandalism [12] [13] [14] [15]. Ha! (talk) 01:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE User:Pika62220

[16] Ha! (talk) 01:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Yup, I don't want to totally remove Pika62220's info, until I can decide just how much I want to reveal about myself on this thing! LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pika62221 (talk • contribs) 01:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Nonconstructive" editing

Okay, so you don't like the way I edit. Maybe I don't like your hair color? Who knows? I'm sure that unreferenced claims about someone who thought something might be true need a bit of editing. This is called "eventualism," and it's what Wikipedia does. I'm just trying to attract attention to things that are <edit: Ha! (talk) 03:19, 5 May 2008 (UTC). This word really sucked, so I removed it>. 98.215.82.114 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 02:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't refer to your IP's vandalism of Anal-oral_sex (diff [17]} as "nonconstructive", I called it "disruptive editing". Gary King referred to your IP's editing as "nonconstructive", when he gave it the 2nd warned for vandalism [18], after Elkman had given it the first. I don't like or dislike the way you edit (which isn't eventualism from what I can see) and my hair colour is really beautiful, you'd love it. Ha! (talk) 03:19, 5 May 2008 (UTC)