User talk:Gwernol/Archive 5

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Contents 1 *POSSIBLE COPYRIGHT VIOLATION* 2 Uncertain Elephant 3 Thanks 4 88196 vandal 5 Thanks 6 RfA 7 Changing a page's name? 8 Vandalism continues 9 Re:Thinking about an RfA 10 Your comment 11 RfA thanks 12 Thanks for the reverts on my talk page. 13 Neil Garrett 14 user pages and gender 15 Thanks :) 16 For reverting vandalism on my user page and talk page 17 Just a mistake 18 Funnybunny ‘s rfa-- 19 Artitechture..... 20 Bacon 21 User:68.59.61.191 aka User:DirtyDyke 22 ilunch 23 iLunch 24 Barnstar for me! 25 Thank-you 26 What to do? 27 re: Talk:Gah 28 Chaim Simons 29 Vandalism on my user page 30 Thanks for the barn*! 31 EWS23's RfA 32 Stephanie Adams 33 RE: User:65.184.17.216 34 User:Lawsonrob 35 Well done 36 Sorry! 37 Re: User:Rappy30V2 38 Re: Electromagnetic suspension 39 Thanks! 40 Thank you, G! 41 My RFA 42 Contribution/RFA review for Gwernol 43 Elephants again 44 Thank you for your comments in Lar's RfA! 45 India Basher 46 Blnguyen's RfA

[edit] *POSSIBLE COPYRIGHT VIOLATION*

RE: [Depth Cues] Hi Gwernol, The information needed for you to make a decision, in relation to my first post is located HERE. If I have misinterpreted the copyrights contained on this page it was purely unintentional. I might add this information (Depth Cues) is not new. I’m not taking credit for composing the original document, all I wanted to do was put it all together in one place. Here… Keep up the good work.

Cheers OptusBot 03:20, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Gwernol, Having re-read the information it seems we have both made an error, in regards to my referencing. It appears, at first glance all that has happened to this information is that it has been published on a site that just happens to have a copyright on it. However the information contained with in it is freely available from [Coon, Dennis. Introduction to Psychology, Exploration and Application. St. Paul: West Publishing Company, 1989, the chapter 5 on Perceiving. Pages 128-129]

In imho the "VIOLATION" is invalid considering I quoted a book published three years before the copyright on the page in question...

OptusBot 05:52, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uncertain Elephant

Dear Gwernol,

• I am not Slicky, neither in WP, nor in the real life.
• I have already read a little about the formal WP policy and do not want to change it.
• As a great formalist, you cannot see anything bad in the Elephant. You should accept him.
• Do not call the Elephant "vandalism": This is personal attack.
• Could you tell me, where I can find the discussion of the "Certainty_Principle"? Does it exist yet?

With best wishes, Rcq 17:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for the link. I visited it. Possibly, I was not right: you have not deserved Uncertain Elephant. Sorry. But you have not deserved Certain Elephant either...
• I will award other participants of the discussion in the near future.
• "...but the unanimous opinion of the community..." - seems, I heard something like that elsewhere... Ah, remember... Pilate said that when crucifying Christ.

With best wishes, Rcq 16:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

[edit] 88196 vandal

Hi, Gwernol, and thanks for reverting my userpage twice. I'm curious about the nature of this vandal. It always has an ip beginning 88.196. It always leaves the same message , DIF'S It sometimes picks out something from mu userpage to add to someone else's, DIFS in a manner I take to be mocking. Does it conform to any BOT or vandalyou know of? Should I mention it on the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard? Thanks! :) Dlohcierekim 14:32, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I would not want a range band. It doesn't bother me. I've gotten used to it. I was just wondering about it. Kinda makes me feel like I either did a good job vandal fighting or got just sucked into an ongoing conflict w/ someone who has a grudge against one of its other visitees. I'll probably noticeboard it to give someone w/ a broader picture the info. Thanks again. :) Dlohcierekim 15:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hi, Gwernol, One does ones best. I was a volunteer in the 1960's & 70's and member of the North Staffs Group. One of our Noerh Staffs group members and a good friend until he died young was Bill Brown, founder chairman of the WHR 64 Company (always know to us as Bill Brown's other railway since the FR was always his first love) I lived and worked in Newcastle-under-Lyme for nearly 40 years, I now live in retirement in Llandudno. Like to keep an eye on things. I also run several websites in Llandudno just for interests sake e.g. [1] NoelWalley 15:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA

Thanks for the advice. I've withdrawn my RfA (at least, I think I have). See you 'round, M1ss1ontomars2k4 | T | C | @ 22:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changing a page's name?

Hi, I'm a new user who just noticed you corrected the name of my first article by properly capitalizing the last name. I've been searching Wikipedia for ten minutes for information on how to do this. Could you please tell me? Thank you! --Tyrant007 02:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. On the same page I've posted a link that I don't know how to cite. Could you help me out with that, too? Also, how do I set up a "contents" box on a page? --Tyrant007 02:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism continues

Thank you for issuing a warning to User:69.235.45.19. Sadly the vandalism has continued after the warning. Now freedom of religion is the target. You may want to revisit the user. Thesmothete 04:33, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Thinking about an RfA

I'll add it to my to-do list. There is at least one person I need to do the same for first, so might take a little while. Petros471 08:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your comment

Have you got nothing better to do than whine at me on my userpage? I don't know who you are and it goes without saying that consequently your opinion means nothing to me. If you want to discuss the issues, please do, but otherwise, I'm not in the least bit interested in your opinion of whether I'm civil, which is not in any case synonymous with "talk to everyone as though they are a schoolgirl". I'm frankly astonished that you wasted the time sharing it with me when you could have been doing something useful. At least read my userpage and share your thoughts. -- Grace Note.

[edit] RfA thanks

[edit] Thanks for the reverts on my talk page.

Some people just never learn. --cholmes75 16:07, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neil Garrett

Something more is going on here. Something that we're just not seeing. I've left some comments at User talk:Louizem, hopeing to get some more information on what is going on. If Louizem *is* the anon that was doing the deletion, then it's a more complicated issue. There's no problem generally with a page's original author requesting that the page be removed. And I would not be shocked if all the same IP addresses and Louizem are all one person. If so, then it's within his/her right to request the page be deleted. Anyway, we shall see what comes of this. - TexasAndroid 18:01, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] user pages and gender

Another thanks for the revert to my user page. Greatly appreciated. On a side note, I'm a "him" not a "her" :-) All the best, Gwernol 18:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Any time. Sorry about the gender confusion - in retrospect I have no idea why I used the feminine pronouns, for some reason it was just in my head. --Bachrach44 19:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks :)

Thanks for reverting vandalism on my talk. -- Nathan 22:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] For reverting vandalism on my user page and talk page

[edit] Just a mistake

It was just a mistake. Probably because I came from a dif. My fault. Thanks for reverting.Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 04:05, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I think what happened was that I clicked on edit on a dif (not smart) and when the page came up, scrolled down while drinking at the same time (not smart either) missing the older version warning. Just stupid..... :blush Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 04:28, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Funnybunny ‘s rfa--

The nom in his prior RfA is the same as this time with a name change. User:The Republican redirects to User:The Gerg. I wouldn’t care, except he nominated Funnybunny with about then 1,000 edit’s the last time. Is this a valid concern, or am I just experiencing Wiki stress and in need of going to bed or otherwise getting a life? Something here just doesn’t feel right. Thanks and cheers :) Dlohcierekim 04:16, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you and goodnight. :) Dlohcierekim 04:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Artitechture.....

... has been restored per your request. JDoorjam Talk 17:04, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bacon

You shit pot. 68.59.61.191 20:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:68.59.61.191 aka User:DirtyDyke

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FYI. Kevin Baas^talk 21:04, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ilunch

please check up on my talk page, i think this should do for notibility and veritbility

[edit] iLunch

here's notibility for iLUnch, and I think this will also work for vertibility. http://music.podshow.com/music/listeners/podshow_details.php?ShowHash=8794cb27ac8086c5d7181e6865e9540c

[edit] Barnstar for me!

Yay! Thanks! --M1ss1ontomars2k4 | T | C | @ 22:00, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank-you

The count is in, and now I join the crew who wield the mops and pails. Thanks for your support! I pledge to serve both you and Jimbo Wales. If you have anything you need, then please don't think to hesitate. For I am the very model of a grateful admin designate! ♫Bucketsofg✐♪

Wow that's pretty cool! --M1ss1ontomars2k4 | T | C | @ 23:16, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What to do?

What do you think should be done about this article? I'm not even sure what it is. I think it might be a misspelling of omicron, but a lot of the information (like Titans in Greek mythology, etc.) is not in omicron. Omicon has only 724 GHits. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 | T | C | @ 23:16, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Talk:Gah

As a rule of thumb, talk pages of articles marked with {{deletedPage}} should not be deleted because, as the tag says, it enables users to discuss possible changes, or debate on the use of that tag. However, because it is totally unrelated, I probably will deleted it now anyway. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 01:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chaim Simons

You can go round and tag all of special:contributions/Simonschaim as copyvio from the pages listed in http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/7854/index.html ! -- RHaworth 11:35, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism on my user page

Thanks for that. I think that the comment he has on his userpage says it all - Peripitus 11:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the barn*!

My first! Thanks! NawlinWiki 20:43, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] EWS23's RfA

Hello Gwernol! Thank you very much for your support of my request for adminship. I've already seen a couple of your reports to WP:AIV, and I look forward to helping you stop vandalism. Thanks again, and if you ever see something I could be doing better, please leave me a message. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 02:36, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stephanie Adams

Thats fine, I have more open proxies that Wikipedia doesn't ban then you have edited articles.

Why don't you actually read the information before just looking at a half naked chick, getting a hard on and thinking your going to play god.

Did you ride the small bus your whole life? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.184.17.216 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] RE: User:65.184.17.216

No problem. Cheers TigerShark 00:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Lawsonrob

Hehe thanks for the userpage revert. That's the second time he's done that. I don't know what's wrong with him; I left him a message on his talk page 3 minutes before. Ah well. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 | T | C | @ 00:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Well done

I see you've just withdrawn your RfA. Just wanted to drop you a note to say how sorry I am that it failed to reach consensus. Earlier I had thought it was heading towards a successful conclusion and I was very sorry to see it go the other way. I disagreed with many of the oppose comments, some of which seemed to me to have forgotten about WP:AGF and weren't prepared to acknowledge the tremendous work you've done on Wikipedia. Please continue to contribute your wisdom to WP - we need you. You'll have my spport the next time you want to apply. All the best, Gwernol 23:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the uplifting remarks. It's simply so hard to guage community consensus. Perhaps the community as a whole thinks that I was attempting to lawyer my way to adminship. Perhaps they think I'm more concerned about promoting Islam than creating an encyclopedia. Perhaps they think my every action is part of a plot to gain adminship. Ngb stated that Certainly the behaviour you have exhibited during this RFA is beginning to convince me that, without a fundamental change of attitude, you should never become an administrator. I thought I handled the situation as best I could, responding to comments in reasoned defense rather than attacking oppose voters. But perhaps the Wikipedia community agrees with Ngb. I simply don't know. From here, I don't know what I'll do. I'm sure I'll be back to my regular editing, but I'll most certainly take a break for a day to rebound from this and possibly be a bit less active for a couple more weeks so I can focus on ending this school year. I don't want this RfA to bring me down, but I'm afraid the community now has a less than desirable image of me. An image that will never be erased. And I don't say that because that image may dash my chances to become an admin in the future, but rather I say that because that image may dash my chances at being seen as a credible editor. It's simply unfortunate.

Winston Churchill once said, Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm. I hope I still have a bit of that courage remaining. joturner 00:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry!

Sorry, sometimes I get so mad at these disrespectful vandals. Rappy30V2

[edit] Re: User:Rappy30V2

Most kind, thank you :D RadioKirk talk to me 01:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Electromagnetic suspension

I agree with you. Also the complete lack of references raises OR concerns & it definitely seems crystal ballsy. I reverted it as User:194.72.50.162, who is a repeat vandal, blanked out the text in question. I, thinking that this was blanking vandalism, reverted it. Anyway feel free to remove the unsourced info. Thanks. Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 14:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks a lot for reverting the vandalism to my user page. I can't believe that the vandal was actually asking to be banned. Regards, --Alphachimp ^talk 20:07, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you, G!

My dear Gwernol, I'm truly sorry about the embarrasingly belated reply, but I realy wanted to thank you for your kind words regarding my message to M1ss1ontomars. Despite we've never talked before, I've taken note of your thoughtful, serious and polite contributions at many places, and this is a great chance to congratulate you for them. Many times we feel discouraged and sad in real life, and I can hardly think we've chosen to take part in WP just to make ourselves or others feel even more miserable. Yet, it happens everyday. I would have been utterly sad to se Mission leave because of his failed RfA; too many great contributors already choose to depart everyday, and I've seen by your words that you share this concern, and most important, that you fight to bring a bit of light and hope to this place. for this, you've earned my everlasting respect and gratitude.

I truly hope that you consider myself your friend from now on. My talk page will always be open to you in case you need my help, or simply someone to share your thoughts with. Kisses, Phaedriel ♥ tell me - 00:01, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Thank you for your recent vote on my RFA, regardless of how you voted. I appreciate all votes. I am going to wait until I have more edits in all namespaces. (And also improve answering impossible questions ;). Hopefully one day I will be more sucessful than it was looking, once I meet most user's voting standards. Again, thanks for your time! ~Linuxerist E/L/T 02:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contribution/RFA review for Gwernol

Let's see if I can tick off a few things that are important for an admin and/or come up at RFA:

• Edit count - can't imagine anyone complaining it's too low...
• Time around - First contribution 13 May 2005, plenty early enough. Three months of heavily active should also be ok.
• Civil? No person attacks? - Yes, no problems in this area :)
• Edit summaries - used, and accurate. No problems.
• Mistakes - only very minor ones found, all corrected.
• Email enabled? - yes.
• Controversial userpage? - no.
• Any edits warring/blocks? - no.

Namespace review:

• Article - Lots of vandal reversions, but still plenty of playing around with trains and computers!
• Article talk - you seem to understand what they are for, and use them when needed.
• User - fine.
• User talk interactions - Very friendly and polite- good stuff!
• Wikipedia- Very good use of WP:AIV. I reviewed a lot of your posts there, and they almost always resulted in a block (one that didn't was because of a backlog that you could have helped clear). A good sign that you know when it/is not time for one. Incidentally regarding this: you do realise that IPs can't be indef blocked unless they are open proxies? Good comments to RFA, AFD and AN.
• Wikipedia talk: Wow, I've just come across the first thing that I disagree with (NB: me disagreeing with you is not saying that your opinion is 'bad')- adminship renewal. Personally, I think that proposal will be too much work and/or a troll fest. However, the thoughts you put forward have the right idea- like me, you hate seeing admins abusing their power. So no real problems there :)
• Image: You've been there, done that. Tick. Btw, by revealing your real name your cell phone number (and impressive resume) is just a few seconds away.
• Others: Your vandal fighting gets everywhere doesn't it?
• Help talk: Wow, a namespace with no edits :O

Random nice edits:

• User talk:Boon75
• User talk:208.20.220.72, in response to User_talk:Gwernol/Archive_2#Vandalism_reprimand
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• Plenty more, I'll dig them out if you want me to nominate you :)

Summary: Great, why aren’t you an admin yet?! So do you want me to nominate you to try and get that fixed? You said in your original message to me that you don't feel ready for that yet, any particular reason why? From what I've seen you have the qualities needed, along with plenty situations when you could have made use of the admin tools. Petros471 20:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, real life is a perfectly suitable reason for not wanting to go for RFA now. As you've said you are willing to accept a nomination I will start work on it in my userspace, User:Petros471/Gwernol RFA (red link until I create it). I encourage you to work on your answers to the standard questions there, but don't accept the nomination until we are both ready and have moved the draft into the proper location. When you are ready to start it just let me know.

Re: The indef vandal- that's fine. I was only checking that's what you meant (which I thought was likely). As you probably saw I did indef block a user account that your reported that asked for the same thing :)

Right, I look forward to hearing from you in June then. Hope the move goes smoothly without too many breakages (and things lost forever in boxes), and enjoy your holiday. Cheers, Petros471 12:55, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elephants again

Dear Gwernol, our friend Bduke disappeared... He thinks about Elephants, "original researches" and things like that. I ask you to join our discussion, because it seems Bduke needs your help. Please, read the beginning of the discussion here and go to my talk page. If you cannot defend your point of view, you should ask reinstatement of the "Certainty_Principle". With best wishes, Rcq 21:04, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for your comments in Lar's RfA!

We are here to build an encyclopedia!	Hi Gwernol (fellow railway enthusiast!), and thank you for your kind and supportive comments in my request for adminship! With a final tally of (109/5/1), I have been entrusted with adminship. It's been several weeks since the conclusion of the process, so hopefully you've had a chance to see me in action. Please let me know what you think! Thanks again! ++Lar: t/c 03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
	Adverts: Like The Beatles?... Like LEGO?... In a WikiProject that classifies?... Are you an accountable admin?... Got DYK?...

[edit] India Basher

I request you to reconsider your views on India Basher. The article has been developed further and has more information.

In any case, may I request you to share your views on the revised article.--Cardreader 00:49, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blnguyen's RfA

Hello Gwernol. Thank you for your strong support and defence at request for adminship which ended at the overwhelming and flattering result of (160/1/0), and leaves me in a position of having to live up to a high standard of community expectation. If you need help with admin powers, feel free to ask me. Of course, if I make any procedural mistakes, feel free to point them out and I look forward to working with you in the future, as well as your RfA ...Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 03:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)