Talk:David Davis Mansion

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[edit] Clover Lawn v. David Davis Mansion

The NRIS Database of Registered Historical Places still lists the site as Clover Lawn, are we sure it is called the David Davis Mansion? Someone want to call them and make sure? A mcmurray 06:03, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

The official museum website calls it the David Davis Mansion. So does the supporting foundation. Clover Lawn was just what the Davis family called it.--Dhartung | Talk 08:14, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Also evident e.g. on the Bloomington-Normal tourism page. --Dhartung | Talk 08:18, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I lived in Normal for year and worked in Bloomington for several years. I don't recall ever seeing it referred to as "Clover Lawn" -- but there were frequent references to the "David Davis Mansion" in the local media. older ≠ wiser 12:55, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I hear ya, I lived in Bloomington for over 20 years. I just wonder if the NPS is calling it Clover Lawn is that it's "official name." I mean I always heard David Davis Mansion mostly, that's what I knew it as but I do remember hearing Clover Lawn, and there is the NPS thing.A mcmurray 19:51, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

From what I can gather, "Clover Lawn" seems to be the name Davis and family may have used for the place. [1] David%20Davis I think it is worth noting that name, but it seems that it is by far more commonly known as the David Davis Mansion. older ≠ wiser 20:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

• Sounds good to me. I agree, but if it is NPS designation that should be noted. The National Park Service are really the only ones using it. A mcmurray 01:00, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I also think we should lose the word formally in the first sentence. I am going to remove it, if you are that attached to it, then revert or engage in an edit war. ; ), jk.A mcmurray 01:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Agree about dropping "formally". But I discovered that the museum and foundation do use the name "Clover Lawn" in some of their promotional materials (e.g., a quarterly newletter and the museum gift shop), so it is not only the NPS that uses that name, but it is less common than David Davis Mansion. older ≠ wiser 01:21, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I thought I had heard it used in that capacity by the folks running the place. Either way, if Clover Lawn redirects here and it's noted in the article I don't think it's a big deal if we just leave the title the way it is.A mcmurray 20:03, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Original" heirloom roses

The expression "the Victorian cut flower garden, with original heirloom roses" gives the reader the distinct impression that the heirloom roses now in the garden are original to the site. This makes them useful documents, if that is in fact true. If "heirloom" roses have been planted in a "recreation" of the garden, as is the usual case with historic US houses open to the public, then this should be clearly stated. --Wetman 10:12, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I am almost certain the garden is a recreation, but I will have to get back to you on that. IvoShandor 10:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Since the Davis family was in possession until 1960, they could well be original to that garden, and very worth noting. --Wetman 10:17, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, if that is the case, however I am originally from the area, and swear I remember hearing about this garden being created, not sure though, I will have to look further into it. It may be that the roses are from some original strain or something of that nature. This is just specualtion, I will have to see if I can find some sources. IvoShandor 10:50, 25 October 2007 (UTC)