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Talk:Baker Bowl

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[edit] Recent Edits

I made a number of changes to this page. First, there were a number of unencyclopedic comments including:

  • "Perhaps a few unprintable names bestowed by frustrated pitchers." (Comment about nicknames for the ballpark)
  • "Perhaps the writers would have been kinder if the Phillies themselves were not such a joke, as per the Lifebuoy sign."
  • "The Philadelphia ballparks in general, and Baker Bowl in particular, seem to be a good metaphor for the life cycle of structures, of the influence of the fortunes and misfortunes of their occupants, and of changes in public tastes and demographics:
  • "And when Veterans Stadium opened, it was a gleaming new structure. Indeed, all was well while the teams were winning. But 30-plus years later, its occupants were quoted in the media as being all too happy to be rid of it. At least it went down in one big blast of TNT instead of lingering for years as its predecessors had."
  • "Baker Bowl and its successors may serve as a cautionary note to sociologists and sports fans alike. The consistent trend, as reported in the media, is that all of these places were highly praised when they opened, and had become laughingstocks by the time they closed. It remains to be seen whether, in another generation or so, the writers, fans and players will similarly turn on Citizens Bank Park, the new home of the Phillies, and also on the other currently highly-praised 1990s-early-2000s ballparks." (These really have little to do with the ballpark and are some sort of non-sequitor on the other parks.)
  • "Imagine the Green Monster being 30 feet closer, and almost half again higher." (encylopedias don't ask readers to imagine)

I also moved a number of items upder a heading called Hosting the Phillies. Anyone can change the heading if they like. but it does seem odd that an article about a ballpark has little about its time in service and focuses on disasters and amateurish commentary. Montco 03:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


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