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Contents 1 Image copyright problem with Image:Gorge.jpg 2 Wikipedia:WikiProject Badminton 3 Template 4 Hi Aleenf1 5 Aleen 6 Badminton terms 7 Badminton map 8 Thomas/Uber cups 9 National badminton teams 10 Chinese Malaysian vs Malaysian Chinese 11 2006 Women's Hockey World Cup Qualifier 12 Badminton 13 "Vandalism on The Amazing Race 10" 14 Mongolia and The Amazing Race 10 15 Chinese field hockey squad 16 Field hockey at the Summer Olympics 17 Blacksticks 18 Image tagging for Image:2006 Valencia Motogp.JPG 19 South Korea and Taiwan 20 Asian Games 2006 in better English 21 BWF 22 Don't delete information 23 round of 8 template 24 User:Budse 25 Image edit request 26 Badminton: fixing English and feature nomination 27 Badminton, new championships articles 28 2006 Asian Games torch relay 29 2007 in badminton 30 map 31 BWF Super Series 32 Your message 33 E-mail 34 Block 35 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Michael Schumacher - Brazil 2006.jpg) 36 2006_FIFA_World_Cup 37 French G.P. hat trick 38 Amazing Race 10 Page 39 AFC competitions 40 Recent edit to BWF Super Series 41 Re:Badminton 42 Fair use rationale for Image:2006 Valencia Motogp.JPG 43 Reducing Amazing Race article size 44 Badminton 45 All England Open Badminton Championships 46 My RfA 47 BWF member nations 48 Badminton at the 1992 Summer Olympics 49 IRC cloak request 50 Image:Wmessenger.PNG 51 2007 BWF Grand Prix Gold and Grand Prix 52 PNG software 53 Identifying territories or countries

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Badminton

SVTCobra, you can help to expand the badminton player list in the WikiProject Badminton, i saw you do nothing, indeed your contributions is very important. Thank you. Aleenf1 05:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SVTCobra"

Aleenf1, sorry, I am sometimes a sporadic wikipedian. I did add Pan American Badminton Confederation today. --SVTCobra 23:41, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Because only 5 members in our WikiProject, i considered to quarantine the Badminton Player project. However, i need your comments about it whether it should be or not, and give some idea. And whether we should run portal? If does, you know how to run it? Your comment is include in the future and provide some idea if you have. Thank you --Aleenf1 16:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Do you mean halt updating players until tournaments and organizations are finished? That might make some sense. I realize that I have not done as much work as I would like, but it has been a busy summer (and with the World Cup!) I haven't had so much time. I do not have any experience in doing a Portal. In fact, I don't really use those that exists for other subjects. But, yes, a Badminton Portal would be nice.--SVTCobra 21:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC) Talk

Sorry, i'm not make clear. I should say are we should terminate to updating badminton player or can be say left out from WikiProject (not a part of)? In fact, I don't really use those that exists for other subjects what you mean, i not so understand. Aleenf1 04:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, it took so long to get back to you, very busy summer. It is OK by me if you eliminate players from the project. About "Portals": I have looked at some that already exist for other sports. It would be great if there is one for Badminton, but it also looks like a lot of work to maintain and keep up-to-date. Therefore, I cannot commit to working on a portal. Sorry.--SVTCobra 00:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Template

I spend most of my time on french wikipedia. So this is for you: Template:Round16-with play-offs

	Play-offs				Quarter finals				Semi finals				Final
					May 3, 2006
	May 1, 2006
					China	3 (6)
	South Africa	0 (0)							May 5, 2006
					England	0 (0)
	England	3 (6)							China	3 (6)
									Indonesia	0 (0)
					Indonesia	3 (8)
	Japan	3 (6)											May 7, 2006
					Japan	2 (6)
	United States	0 (0)											China	3 (6)
													Denmark	0 (2)
					Denmark	3 (6)
	India	3 (6)
					India	0 (0)
	New Zealand	0 (1)							Denmark	3 (2)
									Malaysia	8 (5)
					Malaysia	3 (6)
	Template:SKO	3 (6)
					Template:SKO	2 (3)
	Germany	0 (1)

Khardan 20:44, 29 May 2006 (UTC).

I realized I mixed Uber and Thomas Cup. Khardan 20:48, 29 May 2006 (UTC).

Hi Aleenf1

The sourcecode can be downloaded from http://www.pjirc.com/. I haven't modified the client on the toolserver in any way, other than to disable all IRC commands except /nick, /quit and /action, as well as only allowing #wikipedia, #wikipedia-en and #wikipedia-bootcamp. Just leave me a message if there is anything else I can do to help :-) Bjelleklang - talk 11:33, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Aleen

Aleen. I do apologise for reverting some updates you have just made to the Badminton article. I am sure that your updates were very worthy, but the English was confusing. You might try drafting future updates in Word and then running them through the spell and grammar check before posting to Wikipedia. Once again, I am sorry and no offence is intended. Bob BScar23625 05:56, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Badminton terms

Hi, I'm a Chinese Wikipedian and now considering to translate your article 2006 Thomas & Uber Cup and some other articles in your badminton series to Chinese Wikipedia. But I'm not very clear about the Chinese meaning of "Pld", "MF", etc. So could you tell me the full forms of these couples of words? So that I can figure out the official terms in Chinese. Or directly Chinese better. Thank you. By the way, your badminton series is amazing. -WaitinZ 06:07, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I'm getting ahead to translate it! -WaitinZ 11:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Badminton map

ok, I have updated it. Is that ok? I wasnt sure about Azerbaijan - its listed in europe & asia on the page so I put it in europe --Astrokey44 14:41, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

it has been updated. is this alright now? (may need to clear your browser's cache to see it) --Astrokey44 10:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thomas/Uber cups

Hi Allenf1. No, I don't think it is necessary to separate Thomas and Uber. They are held at the same time and at the same place, right? Also, they even make a single logo for the event. However, you are the one that is working on tournaments, so if it is easier for you (since there are more Thomas cups) to break the up, I'd say do it. I trust you to do what is right. --SVTCobra 01:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

PS Sorry about not getting back to you on the Portal issue. I just want to say that it looks like a lot of work. Work, that I cannot commit myself to. If you have the energy, go ahead. --SVTCobra 01:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

National badminton teams

i put national team in 2006 Thomas & Uber Cup, but which one is appropriate: "Malaysia national badminton team" or "Malaysia badminton team" ? Thanks --Aleenf1 16:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Going by the standard already used for football, I think it should be Malaysia national badminton team (see Malaysia national football team). Also, this list List of men's national football teams shows that the word "national" is included for all countries. --SVTCobra 09:18, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Chinese Malaysian vs Malaysian Chinese

Which term do you think describe the Chinese in Malaysia the best? __earth ^(Talk) 06:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

2006 Women's Hockey World Cup Qualifier

I'm assuming that you're still in the middle of making changes to the article, since only a few of the listings of each game are converted to your table format? Just curious, thanks. -- ArglebargleIV 16:49, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a bit of a big one. What you're doing looks good. Drop me a note when you get to the playoff sections, thanks! -- ArglebargleIV 04:54, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking that the crosstable belongs on all of the hockey pages, along with the playoff brackets which you removed as well. Both of them are useful summaries of the more detailed information below. -- ArglebargleIV 11:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd be willing to add the crosstables and the playoff brackets to previous articles to make them consistent. -- ArglebargleIV 16:47, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

(Response to your response on my page::) Let me explain better. I think that the various tournaments described in International field hockey tournaments should all be consistent (formatted the same as much as possible), with or without crosstables and with or without playoff brackets. I especially like the way you reformatted the 2006 Women's Hockey World Cup Qualifier article, and I'd like to see the rest of the articles about previous tournaments formatted like that. I'm willing to start reformatting those past tournament articles to match your work -- it will take a (long) while, but I think it will be a positive step forward for coverage of field hockey (I'm North American, we also have ice hockey) in Wikipedia. I'm not really a field hockey fan, but I'm a fan of consistently formatted articles. :-) I first started editing the qualifier article when it was listed on "needs wikification" page, which is why I'm interested.
Now, I think that the articles should include crosstables and playoff brackets because they are good summaries, which can be present in the same article as the more detailed game reports. Admittedly, for some of the older articles the game-by-game info may be hard to find. I'd like to have a public discussion about the crosstables and playoff brackets, but if it goes against my idea, I'm still willing to help do the work of formatting past tournament articles.
By the way, did you like the way I did the team listings on the qualifier article? I thought that was a good way to have the information available without taking up a ton of visual space -- just clicking on the bar for each team will display the team members in the table.
Anyway, let me know what you think, thanks. -- ArglebargleIV 17:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

((Response again)) Okay, I can live without the crosstables. I'd still like to have the playoff brackets along with the game records, though. I'll start working on the previous qualifier articles, formatting the games and such the exact same way that you have the 2006 qualifier article, and doing the teams with the hidden boxes -- but only for the qualifiers. Does that sound okay? -- ArglebargleIV 02:32, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

(Response) I was going to start with the 2001 Women's Hockey World Cup Qualifier article, contingent on whether I can somehow locate the game information. Also, as per your desires, no crosstables. :-)
I'd like to discuss the bracket template to use -- I put examples of both templates on the talk:2006 Women's Hockey World Cup Qualifier page, and we can discuss there which template is better (I put my reasons over there).
What kind of new article did you want to create? I'd be more than glad to help if I can. -- ArglebargleIV 16:44, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Badminton

You edited out change (and didn't even use a revert), but anyway.... max speed record needs citation in text. for help on the 3 allowed styles, see [1] Widefox 11:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

good stuff Aleenf1 Widefox 19:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

"Vandalism on The Amazing Race 10"

I see you put revert vandalism on an anon that put David and Mary's nickname in. First, this is their nickname, so I put it back in. Second, this shouldn't be vandalism. I believe you have the same revert tools as me. You should normally be hitting "rollback", like for something that was put in that really isn't needed. "Revert (Vandalism)" should be hit if someone blanks a page, or something like that. Please don't call mistakes vandalism. TeckWiz is 12 yrs old^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 13:11, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Mongolia and The Amazing Race 10

Why have you twice deleted the trivia note on TAR's first ever visit to Mongolia? What reason do you have? I will be submitting this to a dispute resolution unless I hear from you that you agree not to delete that trivia bit again. Vidor 01:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Chinese field hockey squad

Thanks for changing these names. I was already wondering as I had never seen three names for Chinese people, but I checked two different sites with both the same information. I see you are Asian, so I guess you should know it better then me ;) Cheers, SportsAddicted 06:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

LOL, watch out for me now, as I will be contacting you now every time I am unsure about Asian names etc. :) I'm also always confused by Malaysian names, so that should be easy for you. SportsAddicted 06:38, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Field hockey at the Summer Olympics

Really, I think that format looks poor. Why use a small font size like 85% or 90% (which is a bad idea in the first place, as per WP:MOS) and then expand the table to 100% of the page? There is a huge amount of whitespace around the text, which looks very bad. I looked at the basketball and football pages as per your suggestion, and they look terrible too! Andrwsc 19:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I received your message on my talk page, but to be honest, I have a difficult time understanding your English. I am dismayed that you are blindly reverting my changes. The previous format on those pages does not look good when rendered on different screen sizes. For example, on a 1024x768 display, it is okay (not great), but on a 1280x1024 display (or larger), it looks poor. Most dreadful is the rendering on a widescreen display. Forcing the table to 100% page width results in a huge amount of white space. This is a poor page design practice. I test my edits on multiple display resolutions, and I suggest you consider the same. I have seen this formatting style on other Wikipedia pages, and I am tempted to make changes there too, but my concern is the set of Olympic pages right now, so that is why I will continue to make improvements to those pages only. Please have a look at WP:MOS#Formatting issues for some comments on font sizes (i.e. only "if you absolutely must") and legibility. Andrwsc 05:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Your attitude is disrespectful (please read WP:CIVIL), and your arguments are unsound (as far as I can tell - please try to use better English!). You claim "1280 X 1024 pixels is not use by much person" [sic]. Do you really believe this? I think the reverse is true! Expect for laptops, the vast majority of monitors sold today are at least that size. You also disregard my comment about widescreen displays, which are quite common today (even on laptops). Forcing the table to 100% screen width is bad web page design, and causes a very poor rendering on those displays. I wish to engage in constructive discussion, so please keep comments like "Rediculous" [sic] to yourself. Andrwsc 06:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Did you even look at my most recent edits? I attempted to use a format that approximates your version at XGA resolution, but doesn't render poorly at widescreen resolutions. Instead, you blindly reverted, and are now clearly in violation of WP:3RR. I am most upset that you blindly reverted Basketball at the Summer Olympics, on which I made some significant improvements, all of which you deleted with no explanation! That is clearly unacceptable, and could be considered vandalism. Your most recent message on my talk page is clearly inflammatory (not to mention, barely understandable). I shall be forced to protect those pages if you persist. Andrwsc 06:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say (in your most recent message on my talk page).

My most recent edits were different - an attempt to find some common ground. You simply discarded them without any explanation, in the edit summary or elsewhere. I just ask that you take a look at the most recent version, and if there is still something you don't like, please tell me, rather than reverting without explanation. My most recent edits look about the same on an XGA display (which I assume you are using), but don't forced a stretched table on widescreen displays. That should satisfy both of us, but since you are throwing away these edits without explanation, I assume you are still unhappy with the appearance. Please consider the most recent versions and tell me what you find wrong. Andrwsc 06:53, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I still don't understand what your point is. I'm sorry to have so much trouble with your English, but I really don't understand what you are trying to tell me.

I did take a look at those pages, and they have the same problem. The use of 90% font and 100% width is a bad combination. It renders okay on XGA displays, but not on others. However, as I stated before, my immediate concern is Olympic pages, and I intend to work on those first before moving on to other projects.

Can you please answer my question: What do you not like about the most recent versions of the field hockey, basketball and football Olympic pages? They should look about the same to you. If they are unacceptable, please tell me why, as clearly as you can. Be specific about what doesn't look right on your display. Andrwsc 07:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Your argument (such as it is), seems to be that the "common" format is reason enough to revert my changes. Do you really think that there is no room for improvement? Just because it is "common" doesn't mean that there aren't problems! Please use an open mind and consider what those tables look like on a widescreen display. Trust me, they look terrible! Do you want me to send you a screenshot? For (hopefully) the last time, please tell me exactly what you don't like about removing the 90% font and 100% page width formats. I have left everything else alone. Explain what doesn't look good about the versions without those formats? They look good to me on both my 4:3 display and my 16:10 display, at XGA resolution and above. That's great! Why wouldn't you think that is an improvement on a version that looks good only on one aspect ratio? PLEASE explain what is wrong with those! Andrwsc 07:39, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

What are you talking about now? What is a "pool"? Andrwsc 07:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I get it now. I think a poll on the talk page will just sit there for ages, with no activity. Wikipedia:WikiProject Sports Olympics is very quiet these days. In the meantime, a badly formatted page will be the default. I do not like this solution. Andrwsc 07:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

A poll on the main article page? That is not very encyclopaedic!

Look, I will meet you halfway. I will concede the 90% font size. Just take a look on your display at the two most recent revisions (before & after). The ONLY difference is the 100% page width, which causes tremendous grief on a widescreen display. Take an honest look at the two versions on your display and tell me if you see any problem with my version. I want to believe you are not just being stubborn about the "common format". I want to IMPROVE these Olympic pages. Andrwsc 08:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I remind you again to be WP:CIVIL. Threats are not acceptable. Andrwsc 16:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I do not understand you. What does "tal the resolution issue" mean? "tal" is not an English word, and I do not understand what "the resolution issue" means.

I disagree with your assessment that you have done nothing wrong. You have consistently violated WP:3RR (as have I), but more importantly, you stubbornly reject an improvement to the page without any rational explanation. I have asked you multiple times to explain what you think is wrong with the "width=100%" removed and you ignore these requests. I have looked at the page on a 4:3 aspect ratio display and it looks about the same in both versions. but obviously, it is a vast improvment on a 16:10 aspect ratio display when the "width=100%" is removed. Why do you reject this obvious improvment? It is satisfactory to everybody! What is wrong with that? Please answer this one question! Andrwsc 16:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I do not understand your last message. Is there someone who can help you with English? You are not communicating clearly. One thing I did understand is that you stated the table "looks good". So then why do you persist in changing it?!? You also state that you "dunno [sic] why you look so far about 4:3 and 16:10". I don't know what you mean by "look so far about", but my intentions should be obvious. There are a significant number of 16:10 displays in use today (e.g. pretty much everybody at my office uses one, almost all of my friends have them at home, etc.) Maybe in your part of the world that is not the case, but it certainly is around here. Working towards a table format that renders well on both aspect ratios is an obvious goal, yet you persist (for reasons unknown, since you say "I no need to answer you" [sic]) in using a version that renders well on only a 4:3 aspect ratio display. This totally baffles me. Why would you be against an obvious improvement that appeals to a broader set of Wikipedia readers? Andrwsc 17:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand what the exact issue is, but it is not a big deal if a table has a minor formatting error for a few days. There is no reason to keep reverting. —Centrx→talk • 17:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Blacksticks

Sorry for the slow response, I've been away and forgot to put a comment on my userpage to indicate that.

Blacksticks is now used for both men's and women's team, but I believe that until just a few years ago it was used exclusively for the women's side. Therefore, possibly Blacksticks should actually redirect to the women's page, with disambiguation poitning to the men's, or it should be purely a disambiguation page with links to both the men's and women's teams. David Underdown 16:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

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South Korea and Taiwan

I have returned those entries to their original status on the Baseball at the 2006 Asian Games page due to the usual convention of using those titles for clarity sake. Not everyone knows what they are (especially Chinese Taipei), and the term Chinese Taipei is used less and less inside Taiwan and is considered offensive to many Taiwanese. Ludahai 06:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The use of Chinese Taipei is not that well known and the use as a parenthetical is completely appropriate. Ludahai 01:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

But that is not appropriate if people don't know what it is. Also, you are not consistent in that policy. You only apply it to Taiwan because your non-democratic government supports BEijing in all matters regarding Taiwan. That political bias has no place here. Ludahai 08:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

You yourself are not consistent in using what the international organizations use, as I have already shown on the Asian Games page. Even the page with the list of IOC members uses Taiwan as a parenthetical. Ludahai 09:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Your hypocrisy and double standards has been exposed for what it is. Ludahai 06:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

And your inconsistency is your problem. The conventions for good article writing includes making sure that it includes information that makes sure MOST people understand what is being discussed. Most people in English speaking countries have no idea that Chinese Taipei is a reference to Taiwan. I have already exposed you for the fact that you insist on only using Chinese Taipei for Taiwan, but not using official IOC names for othe countries. That is hypocritical and inconsistent. Also, please try to clean up your grammar as it is sometimes hard to understand what you write. Thank you. Ludahai 07:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Why does the addition of one simple word as a parenthetical get you so uptight? Ludahai 07:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Happy to help you with the English, no problem there. However, just because people haven't complained about Chinese Taipei in the past doesn't mean that this is a viable or reasonable issue to take up. I am a native of the US, though I am now in the process of becoming a citizen of Taiwan. I know most native-English speakers have no clue what Chinese Taipei really is. I also talked to two Australian baseball fans who came to Taichung for the baseball tournament who didn't know what Chinese Taipei was before they came up here- and they are big baseball fans where Taiwan is a major world power! Still, it is your lack of consistency that is especially galling. You are willing to impose this on Taiwan in Wikipedia, without acknowledging that you are, in fact, not using the IOC names you insist on for Taiwan for five other delegations. Ludahai 07:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I LIVE in Taiwan. Of course I know the reason behind the use of Chinese Taipei. It is because Beijing has an illegitimate claim to this country and forcing Taiwan to accept this moniker was a condition for China attending the 1984 L.A. Olympics. Spare me the history lesson. You still aren't following a consistent naming policy yourself by not using other IOC designations in the article. Ludahai 07:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

It is not YOUR decision to give someone a green light or not. You have an attitude like you own this place - as I have seen with some of your other edits, but you do not. I will also discuss the matter with an admin, and I will get back to you. As it is, you have no authority in this matter, and I will continue to use Taiwan as a parenthetical. Ludahai 07:41, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

What Wikiproject are you referring to? Ludahai 07:50, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, but I don't see any consensus. In fact, it seems that there is support for mentioning that it is Taiwan in one form or another, either as a parenthetical or a footnote. BTW, so you are going to stalk me now? Don't go about changing any pages I have started until this is resolved. Ludahai 11:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Just to let you know that while I am not abandoning the Taiwan issue, I will not comment on it the next couple of days for two reasons. 1. We need a cooling off period and let other people put in their two cents worth. 2. I am extremely busy this weekend. I have a soccer game and will go to the Taiwan-Cuba baseball game this evening. Tomorrow, I am running a marathon in the morning and am going to both the bronze and gold medal games in the afternoon and evening respectively. Regards. Ludahai 23:19, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Asian Games 2006 in better English

I will give it a try, it's not my native language either, so I will probably making mistakes as well. I see what I can do about it. SportsAddicted | discuss 08:08, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

i agree with your points,but in some instances,it is unclear because of (no offense meant)the grammar.i'll help with the editing. by the way, there was an instance where you made a personal attack to user Ludahai please avoid doing so, it violates this community's guidelines. thanks a lot.Rebskii 19:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey Aleenf1, what's going on? I don't see why your contributions are not taken seriously? Your work is always appreciated, at least by me. Don't let you scare away by other members if that is the case. You can add your information to Wikipedia and so can others. We should work on good articles together, no one man shows. In my opinion it would be a big miss if you would leave the project, think about. SportsAddicted | discuss 07:33, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

please don't give up.stand up and be counted.the games are coming and we need a lot of work to do.i'll help you with the editing and i'll be more than happy to welcome you back on board.thanks a lot and more power. RebSkii 18:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Aleenf1, I totally understand your feelings and I support your opinion in this situation. I don't see anything necessary in adding (Taiwan) next to Chinese Taipei, but on the other hand it doesn't bother me that much if it's there. What I do dislike is that when people revert the additions because they are not the wiki standards that they are reverted back again and we get into edit wars because of it. I understand what you meant when you said you get less or no praise for your work on Wikipedia. I'm in the same situation as I do pretty much on sports related articles. I almost never get a praise for it, while I see other people who contributed not as close as much as I did getting the compliments. That's the way it goes and I guess we just have to live with it. If you like editing in Wikipedia, please go on. Live with the fact that you might not be praised and don't let people scare you away. You are just like all of us one of the people that like to edit Wikipedia. You are a wikipedian, it's your life and you can go on as long as you want to. Others don't have to say anything about it. Keep it up! SportsAddicted | discuss 11:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, from what I saw I think he did make a compromis by leaving it as Chinese Taipei, but with a note at the bottom of the participating nations. I think that's a good thing, at least it's a start on which we can go further and see what the future brings. To be honoust I don't know whether there was really a concensus on this subject in the past. This may have been on one of the Olympics problems as Chinese Taipei is the IOC name. Maybe we can ask around at some places to wheter it is there and from where we can show him that is was agreed like that. If there isn't talked about it in the past (which I doubt) then he probably has a point. If there is talked about it in the past, then I'm pretty sure there is a wikipedia page that tells us to only use Chinese Taipei somewhere in this project and we need to find it. What do you think? SportsAddicted | discuss 00:18, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to take a look and see whether it's possible to find a concensuc reached on this wikipedia that tells to use Chinese Taipei instead of Taiwan. SportsAddicted | discuss 10:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey that is good news indeed. I don't know if all problems are solved now, but it looks like it. What I've seen somewhere is that Luduhai took a few days off and he said he would be back soon. I don't know if he's going to continue with this subject or not, but for now it looks like the problems are solved because there is a note at the bottom of the pages. SportsAddicted | discuss 07:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Done that, I'm glad you're back. SportsAddicted | discuss 02:47, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Great, I'll see what I can do about it as soon as I get there (they're on my watch list) and I will give it a go. Keep up the good work. SportsAddicted | discuss 09:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

you contributions should not go unnoticed.

		The Barnstar of Diligence Award
		I, RebSkii, hereby give you, this BarnStar of Diligence Award for your tireless efforts and unmatched diligence in contributing to the Sports-related articles. Keep up the good work! RebSkii 19:49, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

BWF

Hi Aleen,

I think it may be too soon to make the IBF/BWF change. Sure, it is official, but they still use the same old website and they have yet to pick a new logo. I think it makes most sense to do it in January when they have the new logo, etc. But if you want to start the work now, go ahead. For now, I think it is enough that the wiki entry for IBF says that the new name has been adopted. But why are they moving so slowly? Doesn't it just create confusion? Cheers --SVTCobra 00:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Don't delete information

Ok, this is enough. Don't delete valid information because you can't find where it came from. If you have a problem, take it to a talk page first. Don't summarily delete information merely because YOU can't find it. Ludahai 05:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Just because you create the page, it doesn't make the page yours. Also, just because you can't find the information, it doesn't mean that it is not there. Use the TALK pages first to ask the editor, don't simply delete it. That IS vandalism, check! As for talking about me, you seem to love to talk about me with other editors. I am going to watch baseball, so don't expect a reply soon. You need to check your own attitude rather than comment on others. Ludahai 06:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

round of 8 template

hi,i'm having some problems with the boxing article, i asked Khardan about this but i haven't got any reply. can you check this article? Boxing at the 2006 Asian Games the round of 8 section has some boxes oversized for the following entries:

• Light Flyweight SYR
• Bantamweight UZB
• Middleweight TKM
• Heavyweight KOR.

it doesn't look good to me. i checked the markups and it seems that there are no overlaps. if it's not too much to ask, can you help me fix it? thanks a lot. --RebSkii 21:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Budse

hi Aleenf1, thanks for your note. i appreciate you took the time off sending that notice to me, or else i wouldn't have known it. i was not aware that i was editing the user's mainspace. i already done this mistake before and this was my second time.i fixed it already with your welcome note suggestion. so, in the future, if you still spot me making errors, please feel free to leave a message in my talk page. again, thanks a lot. :) --RebSkii 10:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Image edit request

Hi, for Image:Asian Games Torch Relay route.png, I am just wondering if it would be better to crop the picture so as to remove the western half which has no relation to the Asiatic route? This should create a map which we can zoom to a larger size without too much blank space?--Huaiwei 15:26, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Hmm... in that case, would you mind if I take your picture, crop it, and reupload it? The issue is that the image as presented in the article does take up lots of unneccesary space. The table looks squished as a result of the map, for example. :D--Huaiwei 15:59, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Think I will have to send by email to you because replacing the image with the same filename seems rather tedious. As for that table with its question marks, I arent the one adding it. He is the one [2].--Huaiwei 16:16, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I just sent an email. Will need to sent you the picture as an attachment in an email programme thou, so I await your email response. Thanks and sorry for the trouble. :D--Huaiwei 16:34, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I just noticed there seem to be an issue with the upload? Looks squished. Need any help there?--Huaiwei 17:06, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Badminton: fixing English and feature nomination

Aleen, sorry -- I've been away from Wikipedia for ages. When I have time (hopefully soon), I shall go through the English as you suggest. I also need to correct some dodgy/irrelevant technical information that has been introduced to the article. After this, I think the article might very well be good enough to nominate for feature status. Mike Hopley 19:38, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Aleen, I went through the competitions section as you suggested. In some sentences, I could not be sure of your intended meaning, because the sentence was ambiguous. You might want to check through my edits, in case I have interpreted your sentences incorrectly (I know almost nothing about tournaments, so I might have introduced an error). Mike Hopley 22:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Badminton, new championships articles

Hi Allen, first of all, i'm from Spain and my english is not quite good, so i'm sorry. In the Spanish Wikipedia I've written some articles about championships and if i've got time, i will translate them to the english version; i explained it a few weeks ago in the Wikiproject.

I don't mind that you change the articles. Please, change all you think in order to improve them. I've also created Badminton at the Asian Games, so I suppose there are the same mistakes. I hope you can help me if i have any problem. MontanNito 18:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I have also created 2006 European Badminton Championships and 2004 European Badminton Championships. If you've got time, and before creating more articles, please, could you tell me which medalists table do you prefer? I think 2004 one is quite better.. And what about medal account table? I don't know the discretions about tables in the English Wikipedia MontanNito 00:40, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

2006 Asian Games torch relay

Read the reference sources. Don't simply revert. Passer-by 00:20, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

2007 in badminton

Hi, Yes of course you can change and add the article, I would even support you in doing that as any help is welcome. The only thing I ask for is to not completely change the article lay-out as there are already several articles like this available in other sports and I'd like to keep the lay-out at least a little bit the same in those. But if you have any ideas feel free work on them. Cheers, SportsAddicted | discuss 06:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I thought I heard about some new project starting this year in badminton about a super series just like the ATP Tour in tennis, with also rankings towards a Masters Tournament at the end of the season. After each event the leader in these rankings could be placed there. If I'm mistaken here feel free to change it as it should be. I would like to ask not to take the table out of the article. Take for instance a look at the 2007 in cross-country skiing article and also click on the main articles in World Cup and Tour de Ski to see the effect of pages like this. SportsAddicted | discuss 06:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, by tennis the leaderboard is always shown. Of course I don't know if this will also be the case in badminton, all we can do is wait to be sure about that. As you can see above the table there is a red link to main article for the Super Series. That is where the more detailed + writing can be done, so we can leave the 2007 in badminton article for a quick summary for those who are interested but do not know where to look. SportsAddicted | discuss 07:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

map

Hi, Im not sure exactly what you mean. Which map are you trying to crop? --Astrokey44 03:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

sorry but there is no way to zoom in and out on the map while it is loaded. Unless you mean where there is a large map and it is displays on the page as a thumbnail, and you click "Download high resolution version" to view the full size version --Astrokey44 04:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

is Image:Asian Games host countries.png the image you wish to crop? I could crop this if you like? it works for me in high resolution --Astrokey44 04:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Because the full image is displayed where it is less than a certain size (800 pixels wide x 600 pixels high, I believe) When the image size is less than this, there is no need for zooming because the whole image is shown. I have cropped the image, no worries. Since the image size is small it also does not zoom in. By the way it might be nice to add the year numbers to the image itself so you can see when each games was held. --Astrokey44 07:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I have added Tuvalu to the badminton map, there is a reference map to show which island is which if you needed it --Astrokey44 03:26, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

BWF Super Series

Hi Aleenf1, what do you think if we talk about it in the Talk:BWF Super Series, so if somebody else was interested he could read all we say easily? MontanNito 21:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Your message

I'm not sure what you meant by the first part of your message, but I've warned the User in question about his behaviour. As for advice, I can only say again that the best thing to do is explain each of your edits (in edit summaries and on relevant Talk pages; if your edits are again reverted without explanation, or with insufficient explanation, let me know. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

E-mail

I emailed my advice to you. Please read.

(Siokan) 10:29, 22 January 2007

Block

I've already warned you about personal attacks; this racist rubbish is not acceptable. I've blocked you from editing for twenty-four hours in the first instance. If there's a repeat of this sort of behaviour, the block could be made permanent. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 23:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Cheers for your work. His massage shoock me badly. Siokan 09:03, 24 January 2007

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2006_FIFA_World_Cup

Why did you remove the stadion images in 2006 FIFA World Cup ? 'the image already exists in Wikimedia' seems a very strange reason, It's not that it takes storagespace, the images are linked in not copied.

French G.P. hat trick

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Amazing Race 10 Page

I added a couple things on the Amazing Race 10 page, how come you took them off? I thought anyone can edit this encyclopedia.

AFC competitions

Hey, Malaysian. I revert your edits because your work is pretty poor. STOP deleting informative parts like “Performance by nation” in the AFC Youth Championship page or AFC U-17 Championship one. STOP degrading informative parts like “Total hosts”in the AFC Asian Cup page. If you offense again without reason, i will report. Siokan 21 January 2007 (UTC)

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Re:Badminton

Hi Aleenf1! You don't have to thank me anything. We are here in order to improve all badminton information, and also to enjoy with it. If I don't agree with anything, i'll tell you; at the moment everything is OK. However, could you explain me what problem did you suffer in the articles without any exact date? MontanNito 11:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

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Reducing Amazing Race article size

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Badminton

Yes, please review my edits. Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 01:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Nonono, I made the mistake about past/present tense, and you caught it. Xiner (talk, email) 02:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

All England Open Badminton Championships

Hi Aleenf1. I've seen that you have edited the All England Open Badminton Championships and deleted the notes below the table of the most succesfull players. Why have you done so? Women in England change their surname when they get married, and those notes were the other names. If you watch the lists, some of the titles were won with the other name, so I think it's important this information. If you don't agree, please, tell it to me. MontanNito 19:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I have remebered another thing. Some time ago, you told me that it was better to write the tables as I did in the article, but you have changed it to another format. Can you explain me the criterion? Thanks. MontanNito 19:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

My voice about the new tables of the past winners is that I like more the new ones for the same reasons.

About the former or later names, I think that the other names of the same winners are notable enough and it's important to inform about this fact. If it's notable and it doesn't distorb, why delete it? MontanNito 21:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

OK! Don't worry. With the tables, I mean that you have changed the format of the tables. You told me that you were testing, and you had changed from this to the current one. I prefer the new one because I don't like the blue color of the former table, I preffer the background with any colour. It's more clear and the article size is reduced. I hope you understand me now, sorry for my english. MontanNito 18:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Aleenf1. Thank you for participating in my RfA. Rest assured that I heard every voice loud and clear during the discussion, and will strive to use the mop carefully and responsibly. Please don't hesitate to give me constructive criticism anytime. Xiner (talk, email) 02:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

BWF member nations

Hi Aleenf1, thank you for having updated the map Image:International Badminton Federation member nations.PNG! Regards, Korg (talk) 15:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Badminton at the 1992 Summer Olympics

Well, I have created the new articles in order to add the draws. These draws were already done in the Spanish Wikipedia, so I have only copied them, it has not been hard work. I think draws are more clear and compact for readers than listing matches and results. The reason why I haven't deleted these lists is because there is a hard work behind it and I don't like removing it. Perhaps we could include the QF draws in the main article and all the list in the sub-articles, but in men's singles there's the complete draw, so all the sub-articles will not be with the same structure. I will do it, and if somebody thinks that it's better the former structure, there is no problem in reverting it. If you don't mind, I will copy this conversation in the article talk page, so that everybody could read the reasons for the changes.

I will appreciate not being recommended how to use my brain. Thank you and I also appreciate your work. MontanNito 09:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for The Original Barnstar. :-) Cheers MontanNito 10:10, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

IRC cloak request

I am Aleenf1 on freenode and I would like the cloak wikipedia/Aleenf1. Thanks. --Aleenf1 08:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

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2007 BWF Grand Prix Gold and Grand Prix

I think it's a good idea creating an article like this, but unfortunately now I haven't got time to help you or cover it because I'll begin exams soon. However, if you decided to create it, I would try to help you as much as I could, but I can't promise you anythink. And thank you for covering the Indonesia Super Series! Cheers. MontanNito 20:45, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

PNG software

Hi Aleenf1. You can use GIMP to edit PNGs, which is free --Astrokey44 09:24, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Not sure exactly what you mean.. in photoshop you can make a transparent background by bucket-filling with it set to 'clear'. it should be something similar in GIMP --Astrokey44 14:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Did you see the Documentation here? --Astrokey44 11:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Identifying territories or countries

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You don't need to convince me; convince the editor who has the strong preference for the distinction. I'm going to copy your response on my talk page to the TAR 11 talk page. (You may edit that there if you want.) Tinlinkin 06:29, 18 May 2007 (UTC)