User talk:Sojourner001

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Contents 1 Yo 2 Moved sandbox 3 Reply 4 Image copyright problem with Image:Libors.jpg 5 LiborSpacek 6 NPOV Violation? 7 Tyranid Page 8 Proposed deletion 9 Preemptive Clarification 10 talk page 11 The Future of WP:40k

[edit] Yo

Yo man, you'll pick things up...read guides and copy, heh. Dace59 11:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moved sandbox

Hi - I moved \sandbox to User:Sojourner001\sandbox, which is where I expect you intended it to be, but User:Sojourner001/sandbox would be better. -- ALoan (Talk) 16:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem - I made the same mistake once myself, which it why I noticed it! -- ALoan (Talk) 18:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I've now moved the page to User:Sojourner001/sandbox. Cheers --Pak21 08:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

• Make some contribution yourself to provide a better example to follow

No problem. Please have a look through my contributions, and note the Barnstar of Diligence given to me for "constantly maintaining the Warhammer 40k pages and insuring the same high standard is present in all pages" and the Working Man's Barnstar for my "excellent work in formatting and including references in the many Warhammer 40,000 related articles".

• Do the same for articles written by people other than me

If other (Warhammer 40,000) articles are created which are of the (to be blunt) same low standard as the articles you are creating, I will do the same. Actually, I'd be more likely just to propose them for deletion one way or another.

• Back up your actions on the talk page so that I and others have something to work with as opposed to being a rules robot.

If you want "something to work with", I suggest you start by working on some existing articles, rather than trying to create new article of dubious value. There's a lot of work which needs to be done there already without creating more work for other people to clean up. --Pak21 13:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

• i'm filling it out in a more suitable style on the history page.

Honestly, I don't think you are. Wikipedia is still not the place for a plot synopsis, yet this change is just that: an overly detailed plot synopsis, written in an in-universe style and presenting fiction as fact. Much the same applies to Imperial Date System. Realistically, you can criticise my contributions or lack thereof as much as you like (by the way, it's the week and I'm at work. I have more important things to do than fix up badly written articles at the moment), but it doesn't affect the fact that your contributions are not of the required quality for Wikipedia. You're of course very welcome to keep on working on them, but I honestly believe that unless you start concentrating on the quality of your contributions, your work will just be deleted sometime soon, and that seems an awful waste of everyone's time. Your call. --Pak21 14:02, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Libors.jpg

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[edit] LiborSpacek

The article LiborSpacek has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This happened because the article seems to be about a person or group of persons but it does not indicate how or why that person or group is notable. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. You might also want to read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles. -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 08:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV Violation?

You got around to my general guidelines and said it sounded like a NPOV violation?

Ahem.

That was the POINT of the suggested guidelines, to promote NPOV. NO POV'ING AT ALL!!!

In other words, don't say, "Well, this race is evil and this one sorta is, and this one is just that, etc, etc."

That's stupid, and its opinion. "But some people think..." *wags finger* uh-uh-uh. No, none of that. State was 'is', not what people think. Colonel Marksman 15:41, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tyranid Page

I don't think I understood your complaint. See the discussion. Colonel Marksman 21:49, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion

Just a quick note that you don't need to list {{prod}} candidates at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion — that's for "full" AfD listings only. Cheers --Pak21 17:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd say {{prod}} is exactly the right way to deal with them: it's the "lightweight" version of AfD for non-controversial issues. About the only other way I could see to deal with them would be to try to get them through as a speedy deletion under criterion G11, blatant advertising. Cheers --Pak21 17:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Preemptive Clarification

I posted a few replies to you (and to other people) and I wanted to say that I am not attacking you or singling you out. I am, however, going to defend the Tyranid page to the best of my ability. People kept adding in things left and right, and it caused an edit war. I found a happy medium and sourced it. If you could look at the history of the page and see that, and also see how I organized it for clarity, I hope you can respect my position. I would like for you to improve the page, not revert it back, because it will just cause the same problems over again and get rid of the lots of sourcing that I added. If you want to condense categories or some how condense the information, that would be good. A note- the Army pages, in order to not be in-universe, have to have some aspect of Mechanics so its not all history/fluff. The other armies have the luxury of having unit types and the rest. All Tyranids have are biomorphs and the strategy section in the first Codex to distinguish what units are like. I hope you understand my position. SanchiTachi 17:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I think you accidentally killed the Timeline page and put the Wikiproject page onto it. Editing error. I fixed it, but go through the history and see what things you ment to put on the other. And yes, I will be willing to go through the Tyranids history page and merge things up. I, personally, feel that the biomorphs page needs its own section and that the page should be organized like the other army pages. I tried to do what I could to make it readable (which was hard) and condensed sections/organized sections. Now, it doesn't burn your eyes when scrolling down the page. I stick to the Ecclesiarchy Pages, and thats all I really care about (Inquisitors, Crusading people, Imperial people, etc), so I have no desire to adopt the Tyranid page. I just made whatever I could to make a blunt fix to help. But we can go together to find stuff. Feel free to drop messages, suggestions, or whatever in what you are looking for or what you are planning on fixing. SanchiTachi 17:44, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

It isn't obscure. I have three Tyranid Codexes and over 5 White Dwarfs devoted to it. It is needed in the same way Imperial Vehicles are needed, as it also applies to two games. However, it is not needed in full on the Tyranid mainpage, hence another page for Biomorophs with a "main article" link to it after an explaination. Not only do the biomorphs cover genetics that are fundamental to what Tyranids are (and thus must be included on the topic), it also would deal with their weapons and the like. A combined page of biomorphs and weapons for the Tyranids would conform to the standards of how other Armies deal with such pages. SanchiTachi 18:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tyranids&oldid=101326380#Biomorphs

Thats what the page looked like on your last edit. If you notice, I moved the History up to conform with other pages, condensed the species into easy to read catagories, and your page had biomorphs listed. The unweildy "model range" section was broken up into the "species" section and the "gaming" section. Also, appeal to players was removed. I believe that my changes since your edition have removed any of the messiness from back then and fixed many things (organization wise) without actually changing any of what you said. SanchiTachi 18:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I cleaned up some of the stuff on the Tyranid page and moved it to: Warrior Genus (Warhammer 40,000) and Tyranid Genetics (Warhammer 40,000). I will make a Gaunt Genus page (like the Warrior page, following the codex info). With that, we can clean up some of the information on the mainpage. What is left is to clean up the gaming section. SanchiTachi 23:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] talk page

I have moved Wikiproject talk page to User:Sojourner001/sandbox. It does not belong in the (Main) namespace. -- RHaworth 17:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Future of WP:40k

Hello. As a member of WP:40K I ask you to share your thoughts and opinions on a matter that I feel will shape the future of the project. Thanks. --Falcorian ^(talk) 02:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)