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Does anyone know for whom the Saint Lawrence River was named? 166.90.234.48 08:03 Aug 12, 2002 (PDT)

I have every reason to believe that it is the Saint Lawrence who was the first papal librarian and who was martyred on a gridiron, not least because the symbol of the St. Lawrence Herald (a ceremonial office under the Governor-General) is a gridiron. - montréalais

"According to tradition, for his presumed impudence, Lawrence was then slowly roasted on a grill on the site of the Basilica di San Lorenzo in Rome, in the hope that he would publicly renounce his religion and reveal the names of the wealthy Christians. He is often represented holding a gridiron to memorialize this grisly manner of martyrdom. Although St. Lawrence was most certainly beheaded and not roasted, the traditions of his being cooked are somewhat stronger than actual fact. As a result, St Lawrence is also considered a patron saint for cooks." [1] --Eloquence

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[edit] Old Name

I understood that the old name "River Canada" (and French equivalent) was not used to describe the whole of the St Lawrence. Rather, it referred to the St Lawrence River as far upstream as Montreal and then to the Ottawa River, which was presumably once considered the chief tributary.

It is certainly shown this way on Morden's map of 1695 (although that was drawn in London by a man who probably never visited Canada :-). Does anyone have any more info? Cambyses 21:53, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Fresh Water System

What exactly is a "fresh water system"? A link with a definition would be nice. By any definition I can think of, the Amazon is the world's largest fresh water system. Chl 21:04, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

That might depend on whether or not the Great Lakes are included... bneely 19:15, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Drainage area of Amazon: 7 million km²; St Lawrence including Great Lakes: 1.03 million km². Average discharge of Amazon: 180,000 m³/s; St Lawrence: 10,400 m³/s. --Chl 16:31, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
The "largest" claim is based on the total volume of water in the system, not the discharge rate. Source: EPA. - Kmusser 3 August 2005

[edit] Origin

The article says the river starts in Ontario where the Great Lakes drain into it, while the infobox says it rises in Minnesota. I wouldn't consider the Great Lakes to be part of the river, though they are clearly at the heart of its basin. But I'm not a geographer, hydrologist, or cartographer. Any comments, or should I change its origin in the table to Ontario? Thanks, —Papayoung 18:40, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi! Later in the article, the 'true' source for the St Lawrence is noted as being the North River in the Mesabi Range in Minnesota; it doesn't appear that way (i.e., with its source in Ontario) because the Great Lakes are so predominant and circuitous. (I decided to add the river table to add clarity and since it appears in other rivers; but I don't think there is a standard.)
So: more clarity is needed! I'd appreciate if both of these can be reconciled in text and through a little more digging. Thoughts? Thanks again! E Pluribus Anthony 18:59, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Distinction between gulf and river needed

This article needs a comment on the issue where to draw the end-point on St. Lawrence as a river. As of now, there is none. I am aware of that the long gulf form Anticosti to about Québec city is often considered to be a part of St. Lawrence, but is that stretch really a river? If I'm not wrong, it's not, but the water lies at sea level and is brackish. Correct me if I'm worng and also comment to the article about the issue. 193.167.7.27 16:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

That's all estuary and is generally labeled as part of the river in commercial Atlases. I checked when working on the Gulf article and there doesn't seem to be a commonly accepted point where the river ends and the gulf begins. Kmusser 14:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV map

The map is POV, because it shows the counties in the US but doesn't show them in Canada. --curling rock Earl Andrew - talk 04:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. Kmusser 15:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WW2 History of the gulf and river

Maybe something about the Battle of the St. Lawrence could be added to the History section? Originalname37 (talk) 16:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

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