User talk:Ais523/Archive 8

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Contents 1 Re: Non-free media 2 My RfA 3 TfD's 4 Prod 5 Deleted edit count 6 Untitled comment from User:Mpmartin 7 Thanks 8 Re: Replacing prod 9 templates on MoS 10 The title for this section seems to have got lost, adding this to help the bot out 11 did I miss something? 12 Wikipedia:Avoid self-references 13 Translation 14 Me again, another userscript question 15 {{helpme}} 16 watchlist import 17 Template:Birth date and age 18 The Barnstar of Diligence 19 Thanks 20 The V edit 21 You are a lovely person 22 Your edit of a protected page 23 adminrights 24 railways 25 How can I find 26 Thank you 27 Proofreading 28 Re:Help me 28.1 Barnstar from Holmes.sherlock 29 Shakespeare authorship 30 personal attacks and mass deletions 31 Template:Afd2 32 RE: signpost story 33 Regarding comments on my talk page 34 The Admin higlight script 35 your scripts in safari 36 Secret Subpage 37 Thanks! 38 Thanks! 39 No Wrap - Thanks! 40 Category-blanking and Alaibot 41 TfD nomination of Template:AfD in 3 steps new 42 Replied 43 Username highlighter 44 PROD of LOLCODE 45 User:holmes.sherlock 46 Wikipedia Signpost editor 47 I am not away!

Re: Non-free media

I wasn't really sure why the template was needed at all, frankly. Currently, {{Non-free media}} only contains some noinclude's. I don't know where it should go, and I can't say, without knowing what its purpose is. Currently, it just takes up space. Cheers. --MZMcBride 17:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks. It's no problem, you did what you did for a good reason and I don't resent you for it. I've answered the question, I hope you'll see that I've come along way and am ready to be trusted. Regards, Dfrg.msc 01:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

TfD's

Please will you remember to add <noinclude>{{Tfd}}</noinclude> on to templates when nominating them for deletion, it displayed the TfD tag on to several hundred pages, when you nominated {{administrator}} you forgot to to this as well, please remember as it messes up several pages. The Sunshine Man 17:58, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Prod

I was actually restoring a prod tag that was removed. FMAFan1990 23:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Deleted edit count

I'm similar to Pedro in that a lot of my contributions get deleted in speedy taggings. Is there a way to count them that doesn't involve asking an administrator? I'm partly curious, and also don't want to disrupt the discussion at WT:RFA. Leebo ^T/C 14:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch. Leebo ^T/C 14:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Untitled comment from User:Mpmartin

Action purge worked...Thanks (Mpmartin 17:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC))

Thanks

Just wanted to thank you for your help with my signature.--Gundor Twintle Fluffy 22:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Replacing prod

OK I see what you are saying. FMAFan1990 00:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

templates on MoS

Thanks. So they're going to be deleted, I take it? In any case, they've been replaced by:

• • • 9-mm gap

Is that immune from deletion?

Tony 01:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Thx! Tony 08:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

The title for this section seems to have got lost, adding this to help the bot out

[User:Wiikipedian|Wiikipedian]]

Timestamp for the bot: 12:47, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

did I miss something?

Why did you remove Riana from your admin list? —AldeBaer 16:17, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. —AldeBaer 16:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Avoid self-references

Hi. I don't know if you are just reverting vandalism or have an active interest in WP:SELFREF, but we seem to have a serious problem regarding the expert-subject template. Can you take a look at my recent comment at the bottom of the talk page? Thanks. —Viriditas | Talk 14:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Translation

I have tried to make a translation request but English Wikipedia is so strange for me that i couldn't overcome it. So, can you please help me request these pages to be translated from French wikipedia :

• Époque classique
• Époque archaïque
• Grèce classique au Ve siècle
• Grèce classique au IVe siècle
• Époque hellénistique

Thanks for you help, --Ozculer 15:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Me again, another userscript question

Do you know what would be required to fix the name highlighting script to recognize administrators with non-alphanumeric characters in their user name? An example is User:Can%27t_sleep%2C_clown_will_eat_me, whose name normally displays as User:Can't sleep, clown will eat me. Thanks, Jerry 03:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

{{helpme}}

Ty! Wiikipedian

Again, duh!

Timestamp for the bot: 13:20, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

watchlist import

Your watchlist import code is very helpful. The export function would be easier for me, at least, if the data ended up as the contents of a text edit box. That makes it easier to copy. — Carl (CBM · talk) 14:54, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Template:Birth date and age

That template uses {{selfref}} to avoid mirroring the computed age. Ignoring whether this is a reasonable thing to do, it makes it hard to trace which other pages use the selfref template via "what links here". I suggest either removing the selfref template from that one, or replacing it with span class="selfreference" which would have the same effect on the mirrors but not count as a transclusion of selfref in "what links here". I'd like to hear your thoughts before making the change, since you added the selfref template most recently. — Carl (CBM · talk) 15:59, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Diligence

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		I'm awarding you this barnstar of diligence for your combination of extraordinary scrutiny, precision and community service to wikipedia especially concerning administrative tasks. Wikidudeman (talk) 15:18, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for providing such a detailed and explaining answer to my helpme question. I think that's pretty much I all needed to know thanks, how do you know straight away that a wikipedian is looking for help? Francisco Tevez 18:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For helping me out and serving as a vital member of the community. Francisco Tevez 18:55, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

The V edit

To be honest, I would self-revert. The protection hasn't gone 24, which I think would be a minimum to wait for further comment. Marskell 14:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

No, I do not disagree on content. I agree with you about the talk consensus as it stands, and have no intention of reverting. (And certainly not without discussing.) But someone else later very probably will revert you. However, we can leave it for now. Marskell 15:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

You are a lovely person

		I bow in your presence
		Thank you for your extremely helpful, simple solution to my Help Desk problem. Skittle 16:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Your edit of a protected page

Please don't edit protected pages again, Ais, unless you're absolutely certain no one objects and that what you're restoring isn't part of the dispute. That's particularly true of protected policy pages, which have to be coherent. The material you restored was directly part of the dispute: it was recently added without discussion, after being removed months ago following a consensus to do so, which is why it had been removed again. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 16:53, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Just a note that to emphasise that consensus is not the same as unanimity. However, we should wait a while before making any further changes to this page, to avoid this type of edit/reflex reversion response. Tim Vickers 17:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm aware of that fact; have you read my reply on Wikipedia talk:Verifiability yet? --ais523 17:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

adminrights

User:Pax:Vobiscum. Maybe it's due to character substitution? The entry in your adminrights.js is "Pax%3AVobiscum". —AldeBaer (c) 00:43, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

railways

Nice userpage - I'm constantly amazed by the requests we get at the helpdesk but asking if we'd like to build a railway takes the biscuit so far! Even with english as a second language, I'm not sure how you'd confuse wikipedia for a construction company! --Fredrick day 11:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

How can I find

Hi, how are you. Can you tell me the way about finding a deleted article or at least the AFD discussion of it. Someone deleted Kamrul Hasan Bhuiyan without even telling me. I found it out later. I am confident about the article and if I can improve the article a bit it should definately stay. So please tell me about it. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 13:29, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks like you and I have got a barnstar each in the same day! Cheers for that. And thanks for always helping me when I need it the most. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 19:46, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

...For your detailed and kind review at my editor review, the reason I left several comment on one users talk page was because I was working through Category:All non-free media and User:CyberSkull was the author of several of these and when I clicked the button for fair use disputed it automatically opens the talk page and leaves a message and tags the image, I use Howcheng's image tool. The Sunshine Man is now Qst 16:14, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Proofreading

Hey - thanks for your help! I wasn't sure whether or not you could 'establish' yourself as a Wikipedia proofreader, as opposed to just editing the odd article here and there... anyway, I'm all clear now. Thanks again!

RuthW 10:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:Help me

Yes, I really need help! Please help.

user:holmes.sherlock

Timestamp for the bot: 11:36, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I want to be an administrator here, what can I do? Please reply me.

holmes.sherlock

Barnstar from Holmes.sherlock

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		I give you this barnstar because of your act of kindness of answering my question and helping me when I have trouble.

--user:holmes.sherlock 11:54 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Shakespeare authorship

I'd like to draw your attention to User:Smatprt who, in my opinion, has been intent on rewriting the Shakespeare Authorship article for the last year to promote his view that the Earl of Oxford was Shakespeare. I am only interested in article balance. See here for the list of his edits [[1]] (Felsommerfeld 16:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC))

Hi. Sorry you've been dragged into this. It's true, I have an expertise and I make edits about what I know. Felsommerfeld wrote the following about this article: "*I mean why are we even having this discussion? The guy from Stratford wrote it all, period." If he had his way there would be no article on the authorship question at all. Since he cannot kill the article he is trying to edit out anything which challenges his position, including deleting whole sections without input or discussion. Now you know...the rest of the story.Smatprt 01:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Felsommerfeld's accusations of sockpuppetry have gone way too far. He knows, as do the actual long-time editors of this article (of which he is not), that Ben Jonson and I are two very different individuals that happen to see eye to eye on the authorship issue. Feel free to investigate, research or whatever you need to do to confirm this. For starters, BenJonson lives fulltime on the east coast, I on the west. Check our IP's or whatever (I am not that technical to know how you check, but I know you can and immediately clear this up and stop Felsommerfeld from his one-man war.Smatprt 01:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Smatprt is smart enough to use different IP addresses. Please check out the Shakespeare Authorship discussion about user BenJonson and read the evidence in detail. You can form your own opinion. (Felsommerfeld 01:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC))

As far as I can tell, this or a similar discussion has taken place on the talkpage of several admins all of who have usernames starting with A. Do you want input from me in particular, or are you just broadcasting? (I don't normally handle this sort of situation.) --ais523 16:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

personal attacks and mass deletions

Hi again - I am continuing the discussion above about the current collapse of the Shakespeare Authorship Question article - I just posted the statement below on the Shakespeare project page as advised by another administrator with an "A". I am a long-time editor of this page and am coming under attack from 2 "new" editors and one sockpuppet (now banned). They have deleted material, section by section and my attempts to revert have not been successful. I tried posting information section by section, as advised by another administrator, asking for discussion, but none came. Instead, these ridiculous accusations came and reverts were made. My post below will tell my side of the story. I am asking that you revert the page to the version that was in place from Nov 06 to June 07 (before these recent wars started) and then lock the article for a cooldown period. Here is my posting on the project page:

"Mass deletions of material from Shakespeare Authorship Question article"

As a regular editor to all things Shakespeare, you all know (and some are sickened by) my interest in the Authorship Question (laugh). My last (and first) year here at WP has been quite a learning experience, and believe it or not, the FA process for the WS page was quite an eye-opener. But many of us learned a few more things about WP, so even though the article did not achieve FA, I think one day it will and in the process has already (and will further) become a great article.

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for the Shakespeare Authorship article itself. For the past 8 or 9 months, the page has been relatively stable. In the last week, 2 or 3 new editors (and one unfortunate sockpuppet which has already been banned) have made mass deletions of referenced material. No big surprise - all the deletions were Oxfordian or anti-stratfordian. Now this is the same page where most of the mainstream editors from the WS FA process said that the authorship information should go. Now,... that info is being deleted, section by section. Unbelievably, in their haste, these editors have even cut the stratfordain disclaimer (that academics dismiss all the alternative candidates) that I had grown to accept.

Anyhow, because this is the WikiPjoject Shakespeare, I have been advised, and had already been considering, requesting that the editors of this page take a look at what is going on. Because I have resisted their deletions, they are now waging a campaign to have me declared some sort of SockPuppet for long-time editor BenJonson, even though I don't think he's made an edit for weeks or months. This accusation has been plastered on at least a dozen admin mailboxes - none of which, so far, has fallen for their. I know the truth, I detest sockkpuppets, and I know that some smart administrator will be able to prove their accusations groundless. In the meantime, however, the page is the one that will suffer.

In spite of the fact that most of you are staunch stratfordians, I have also found you to be reasonable and have a sense of fair play. I ask that you look at the talk page and bring some cool heads into the discussion. I ask that you look at the article and its format for the last 8 months, then look at the edits over the last few days. I realize some of you personally disagree with the content, but if we are attempting to make these articles better, then the kind of attitudes and accusations and mass deletions going on on any of these pages should be a cause of concern. Thanks for hearing me out.Smatprt 05:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Template:Afd2

I proposed to add search links to Template:Afd2 here. Your input would be appreciated on this. Thanks! -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 19:53, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

RE: signpost story

Hi. Like you said, whether the story goes into your tech report, or as a separate report, depends on how long it becomes at the end. I'm not sure how often a bug like this occurs, I've never seen it before. If it is long enough, and important enough, it would go as its own story. If this bug is truly that rare, I'd like to see it as a story by itself, because IMO more people are likely to read about a bizarre story than a section in a regular tech report. However, if this type of bug really isn't that rare, and it's just something that regularly happens, then I wouldn't mind seeing it as a section in the tech reports. If this does become a duplicate effort, then you could perhaps use the information that I've written and the info you gave me to use in your report. I haven't really read the signpost all that much, so I'm not sure how long a regular story in a section of the tech report is, so if this is a regular story, and won't be longer than normal, then feel free to write it as a regular section. The important thing for me is not where it gets published, but that it's written at all. I don't really know as much about this bug, or about the wikipedia signpost, as you do, so I think you should decide how "important" and "rare" this bug is, thus whether it should be in the tech report or a separate story. I hope I haven't repeated what I said too much. Since I'm not sure how long a usual tech report section is, or an average special story is, I can't really decide how long the story has to be to be in either one of those; for now the signpost story subpage that I've written serves as a sandbox. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 15:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Regarding comments on my talk page

Thank you very much for the tools! I didn't realize how much edits I have made. x_x Signed by Tommy (Talk/Contribs) 18:28, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

The Admin higlight script

For whatever reason, it isn't working. That, or I'm misunderstanding its functionality. It says that it highlights links to admin user and talk pages in cyan. Does that mean something like User:Ais523, for example? Where will this show up? Anywhere a link is? Thanks. I  ^{(said) (did)} 03:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, your answers were very helpful. I still have two questions though. The admin script still doesn't work. I bypassed my cache, but that didn't do anything. And I checked my monobook but nothing seems to be wrong. I use Firefox.

Also, is it that easy to get the page deleted, if I'm just going to re-create it right after? Deskana's reply here makes it seem as if it's not okay, although he may have rejected it because it's a talk page. If so, it will be done even if I recrete it after?

Again, you've been very helpful, and I appreciate it. =] I  ^{(said) (did)} 18:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay it works. Thanks. But about my userpage, its not a subpage, its just the User:I page. Is that also ok? I  ^{(said) (did)} 18:39, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm not an expert on the GFDL, but if the edits were undone, then there is no consequence under the GFDL right? And the anon was me, because I realized my edit count was getting much higher because of my user page edits. So you think I would need to post at AN to get other opinions? I  ^{(said) (did)} 19:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

your scripts in safari

Hi, to start with the good news. editsection0tab.js works just fine in Safari 3.0 On to the bad news :D I had a lot of difficulty getting catwatch working. I found several issues

1. if you have "Enhanced recent changes (JavaScript)" set in your mediawiki prefs, your script fails. Not too surprising, but it took me a while to figure out that this was causing me so many problems. Perhaps there is a way to test for this option and warn the user...
2. The script doesn't account for your "date formatting" preference. Since the watchlist does take this into account, if you don't have the right preference set the script will always fail. diff for my date formatting.
3. It is affected by the for( i in .. ) issue. Common issue with scripts to which Safari is particular affected by. "for( i in ... )" iterates over ALL the elements of an object (incl. array.length for instance). Twinkle, wikiminiatlas and a couple others had this as well. It is best to use traditional "for( i=0; i<...length; i++)" loops. See also: [2]
4. It seems Safari 3.0 has a bug importing variables from on-the-fly loaded javascript pages, which is problematic with WatchedCategories.js. I'm not sure why yet, I'm talking to some webkit people but I have a workaround for it that should do the trick by loading the script trough DHTML.

My full diff is here. It took me a while before I had found the problems, but at least now we know. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Working 100% now. Not a single warning even :D Great work --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:44, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Secret Subpage

I'm sorry to harrass you, but I've been inspired by Penubag's secret sub-page, and how unsecret it is!!! I would like people to take on the challenge of finding DA Tardis's three secret sub-pages!!! I've noticed how easy it is to simply type in a username and click search and simply find something like user:DA Tardis/secret sub-page right at the bottom of a long list of other sub-pages. Is there a way I can make it more secret? DA Tardis 19:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For being patient with me and taking the time to help out a Wikipedian in distress, I give you this well-deserved barnstar. Also, kudos for an excellent job on all the scripts you have worked on; they have made life for me and other Wikipedians much easier. —Anas talk? 13:25, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for repairing my monobook.js!

-Flubeca^Talk 20:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

No Wrap - Thanks!

Thanks. For the Acapulco infobox, can you see if you can get it so that the word "municipality" doesn't go to the next line? --Criticalthinker 08:33, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

No, no. There is nothing wrong with the word, I'm asking in the infobox if we can get it to stay on its line instead of falling down a line. --Criticalthinker 08:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Category-blanking and Alaibot

It's a fair point: my bot's not currently smart enough to look at histories at all, and I'd be a little vague about how to extent it in that direction. My theory is also that there are other bots (and many human editors) that are trying to do vandalism detection and reversion already, so I'm doubtful of the likely benefits of trying to add this as a "sideline" of my bot (though I don't rule it out if I get a brainwave). What I do do, though, is to maintain a page of such articles, as determined from successive database dumps. (Though I'm behind in doing so this time, and several other things besides.) That obviously has the limitation that it only works for articles that are long-term uncatted enough that they show up in two db dumps, which are rather widely spaced these days. Now that the toolserver is replicating en: data again I may be do that on a little more fine-grained basis. Of course, this relies on human editors to pick their way through the list, and that task is also very backlogged, too... Alai 03:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:AfD in 3 steps new

Template:AfD in 3 steps new has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Black Falcon ^(Talk) 03:46, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied

User talk:Nil Einne#Image:IE6-rounded.PNG Nil Einne 21:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Username highlighter

I've installed your username highlighter; however I show my name with an underscore instead of a space and the script doesn't work on that case. Please could you add the cases for just Casmith instead (I am often referred to like this and this should work for all cases. -- Casmith_789 (talk) 09:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou, works fine now. -- Casmith_789 (talk) 10:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

PROD of LOLCODE

I have removed your {{prod}} on the LOLCODE article, as I object to the deletion. I have cited some rationality on the article's talk. I have left {{unref}} in place, as I do believe it still applies, and after I save this page, I will hunt down sources. As I'm more of a Wikinews guy, I don't edit on Wikipedia that often, so {{unref}}/{{prod}} aside, could you comment on how I did, and give any suggestions for the future? Terinjokes 17:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

User:holmes.sherlock

Hi, ais523, I am holmes.sherlock. I have create something new in my userpage. You can click there to leave me a message. And I have a question, what is the wikipedia signpost? Holmes.sherlock 01:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Signpost editor

How can I write for this signpost, and to tell you something, I want to be a wikipedia administrator and I have no idea how I can. I just can't waiit to be. I am planning to give you a barnstar later.

P.S. reply me on my talk page. Holmes.sherlock 13:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I am not away!

If you see my userpage, you will see an icon saying I am on a wikibreak, but I am not, just writing to tell you because you are the admin in wikipedia which I trust most of all.Holmes.sherlock 13:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC)