Talk:Neve Shalom
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what's the wisdom of translating the name to English? You don't do that to names!! Besides, it is a small village, what it does in the category: Cities in Israel? --Nitsansh 01:00, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Neve Shalom ~ Wahat al-Salam is the name we consistently use for our village at home. The American Friends of Neve Shalom ~ Wahat al-Salam tend to use the translation "Oasis of Peace" or "The Oasis of Peace" as being easier for Americans to get their tongue around. How Wikipedia pundits prefer to list it is of no significance to us, as long as the links lead to it.
Regarding the transliteration of the Arabic name, we continue to use "al-Salam" in our English language literature, just because someone originally thought that was how it should be spelled, and it stuck. Standard transliteration rules for Arabic call for a spelling that is based on actual pronunciation, rather than a direct transliteration of written Arabic. -- nswas.org webmaster, -- Howardshippin.
[edit] Name change
I'm requesting a move from Oasis of Peace to Neve Shalom, being as it seems to be more likely that someone searching for the place would use that formulation. This was reinforced when I ran a Google test: "Oasis of Peace" + Shalom returned 14,900 hits while "Neve Shalom" + Salam returned 60,700. "Oasis of Peace" + Israel returned 37,300, though many were erroneous, and "Oasis of Peace" + Salam returned 10,700. Cheers, TewfikTalk 05:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I do no think that this move sould be made. But to facilitate the move if anyone wishes to make it, I will remove the blocking edit which prevents an ordinary user makeing the move. --Philip Baird Shearer 10:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
To answer your question on my talk page. IMHO The redirect take care of other names and as the two communities in the area have different names for the place, using the English translation covers two policies WP:NPOV and WP:NC. Recently the page "Liancourt Rocks" was moved to "Dokdo" the Korean name for the rocks. The Japanese name for the rocks is "Takeshima". In a WP:RM vote just over a year ago to stop the squabble over the name to use the English name, but in an ambush attack the Koreans managed to cease control of the name in a survey which not one Japanese expressed an opinion. So now it is open NPVO war on the place. Just have a look at at the talk pages! Believe me you are better off improving the article than changing the name which could easily spark an endless argument over what the article should be called. --Philip Baird Shearer 09:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
